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Parkingtigers posted:I know I’m a minority opinion there though, and in contrast I consider The Fog to be possibly his best film alongside Precinct 13 and not enough people give The Fog the respect I feel it deserves. The Fog is my Halloween.
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I was pondering one day and realized John Carpenter made a bunch of my favorite films, probably more than any other fimmaker: Dark Star, Assault on Precinct 13, Halloween, The Fog, The Thing, Escape From New York, Prince of Darkness, They Live, and In the Mouth of Madness
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Oh hells yeah! Just got tickets for my daughter and I to see the Thing 40th anniversary screening at the local theatre!!! We’ve both been thinking about Aliens (the movie) A LOT and it’s time for her to experience another classic in the best way possible!!! I’m seeing it tomorrow after work!
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Parkingtigers posted:It's a true goon story when the goon fails to get laid at the end. Ripley: How many dates is this for you, Goon? Goon: Thirty eight... simulated.
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PhotoKirk posted:Ripley: How many dates is this for you, Goon? Vasquez: you always were an rear end in a top hat *clasps Goon's hand* Goon: *explodes*
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I Googled aliens film analysis (I'd been thinking about the movie) and the first video that came up had slick production values with a decent sounding narrator and a somewhat insightful first few minutes. then, a casual mention of Ronald Reagan in a positive light, must have been sarcastic, and it wasn't until 15 minutes later that I realize he's unironically talking about Aliens being a good movie because it promotes the nuclear family. the future stinks.
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the traditional family unit: a disgraced space trucker, a comatose marine, an orphaned child and their bisected android
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:I Googled aliens film analysis (I'd been thinking about the movie) and the first video that came up had slick production values with a decent sounding narrator and a somewhat insightful first few minutes. then, a casual mention of Ronald Reagan in a positive light, must have been sarcastic, and it wasn't until 15 minutes later that I realize he's unironically talking about Aliens being a good movie because it promotes the nuclear family. the future stinks. 
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Gnome de plume posted:the traditional family unit: a disgraced space trucker, a comatose marine, an orphaned child and their bisected android https://youtu.be/hoRrZ3WCZD8
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Parkingtigers posted:Vasquez: you always were an rear end in a top hat *clasps Goon's hand* Splicer fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:I Googled aliens film analysis (I'd been thinking about the movie) and the first video that came up had slick production values with a decent sounding narrator and a somewhat insightful first few minutes. then, a casual mention of Ronald Reagan in a positive light, must have been sarcastic, and it wasn't until 15 minutes later that I realize he's unironically talking about Aliens being a good movie because it promotes the nuclear family. the future stinks. I once saw a YouTube commenter lament Hollywood “shoving feminism into everything these days” and holding up Aliens as an example of how action movies used to be before this trend. Like hate to break it to you amigo but Aliens is probably the best feminist action movie of all time.
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I'm really tired of this feminist bullshit. They really need to make movies like they did back in the 80s-90s.
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Class Warcraft posted:I once saw a YouTube commenter lament Hollywood “shoving feminism into everything these days” and holding up Aliens as an example of how action movies used to be before this trend. Oh they always name Ripley and Sarah Connor, as if that proves that there were always "plenty" of women in action films and we don't need to raise the quota. Hard mode for chuds is challenging them to name an '80s female action star not from a James Cameron film.
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Off the top of my head, I can't really think of a big strong female lead that was around that era besides Cameron movies. Some horror movies of course like Nightmare 1 with Heather Langenkamp. But that's a really big trope in horror movies. I'll have to google this now. edit: I'm looking at some lists and Ripley and Connor are on or at the top. Most of these other ones aren't leads but secondary characters. Pennywise the Frown fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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Yup, the cupboard is pretty bare. Some solid backup roles here and there (John Carpenter was great at making sure there were plenty) but that's why it always comes back to Ripley and Sarah Connor. Even Rhianna Pratchett (who isn't a chud, is superbly progressive, yet is a fairly terrible writer) was in an interview once talking about the Tomb Raider reboot games she was writing, going on about how she grew up inspired by "lots of" strong female characters... like Ripley and Sarah Connor. It's the well we all draw water from. It just seems like they were both so impressive in those iconic films, so easy to remember, that it sorta kinda eclipsed the fact that we also mostly remember them because there's just so few others to remember from that time.
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PhotoKirk posted:Ripley: How many dates is this for you, Goon? Lmao
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Trip report! The Thing 40th anniversary showing fuckin’ ruled hard!!! Kid loved it, but did elbow me right off the bat and gave me a wtf look cause she thought I had taken her a movie where dogs get shot. Anyway, was really glad I got the opportunity to show it to her on the big screen 
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Trip report! The Thing 40th anniversary showing fuckin’ ruled hard!!! Kid loved it, but did elbow me right off the bat and gave me a wtf look cause she thought I had taken her a movie where dogs get shot. Anyway, was really glad I got the opportunity to show it to her on the big screen I saw it tonight too and it was a good time
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Xenomrph posted:I saw it tonight too and it was a good time Hell yeah!!
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Kid loved it, but did elbow me right off the bat and gave me a wtf look cause she thought I had taken her a movie where dogs get shot. Oh honey, no...it's sooo much worse.
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Oh, she watched the rest just fine, it was just an initial wtf did you drag me to? sort of thing. She liked the movie! E: scary body horror involving dogs and people and aliens and flamethrowers is one thing, having the first drat scene in the movie being someone sniping at a doggoe from a helicopter is a little too close to reality living in the hell-blighted state of Texas as we do Bulgaroctonus fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Off the top of my head, I can't really think of a big strong female lead that was around that era besides Cameron movies. From my memory I can think of Cynthia Rothrock but she was in B-movie kung fu flicks that are mostly dismissed by regular moviegoers. Brigitte Neilson was also the lead in Red Sonja but it was more or less riding the coattails of Arnold Schwarzenegger's Conan the Barbarian.
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Oh, she watched the rest just fine, it was just an initial wtf did you drag me to? sort of thing. She liked the movie! The irony being that a dog does get (mercy) shot on camera, and another is shown embedded with an axe. So the movie confirmed her fears *and so much more*!
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Oh, she watched the rest just fine, it was just an initial wtf did you drag me to? sort of thing. She liked the movie! Consider absolutely NOT watching The Fly II with her, ever. Android Apocalypse posted:From my memory I can think of Cynthia Rothrock but she was in B-movie kung fu flicks that are mostly dismissed by regular moviegoers. Brigitte Neilson was also the lead in Red Sonja but it was more or less riding the coattails of Arnold Schwarzenegger's Conan the Barbarian. I mean yeah that's why whenever people act like representation on that front is fine in big budget Hollywood flicks the only examples people have to prove that is two James Cameron movies from 30+ years ago. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Jun 24, 2022 |
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Neo Rasa posted:Consider absolutely NOT watching The Fly II with her, ever. Counterpoint: show her only the dog scene with no context whatsoever, also show her the dog scene from ‘I Am Legend’, and the infamous dog bit from Futurama. Just go all in, full trauma mode, hold nothing back.    Edit— and Old Yeller Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jun 24, 2022 |
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Off the top of my head, I can't really think of a big strong female lead that was around that era besides Cameron movies. 'Strong' is not the right word to use imo. The Trope from horror movies applies to Sarah Connor, as she was constantly running away scared in the first, then turning around to fight in the second which made her into the 'strong' figure. I immediately thought of Nancy from Nightmare on Elm Street too. Who did the same. And Kirsty from Hellraiser. And forget her name from The Fog.
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Trip report! The Thing 40th anniversary showing fuckin’ ruled hard!!! Kid loved it, but did elbow me right off the bat and gave me a wtf look cause she thought I had taken her a movie where dogs get shot. Anyway, was really glad I got the opportunity to show it to her on the big screen Did they fix the aspect ratio and interlacing issues?
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Yeah I mean I guess The Terminator was basically a horror movie. This has got me interested because Alien and Aliens have a similar arc, where the original is decidedly horror and the sequel is, while scary, definitely more action-oriented. I wonder at what point during pre-production was Cameron like "Oh, we're making an action movie," when the studio drove a dumptruck full of money up to his house? Were action movies even thought of like that, before he took two franchises - one of which he wrote - and made them into boom-boom spectacles? Also, every time I look back it blows my mind that Terminator and its sequel were six years apart. These days we know sequels are greenlit before the original even drops.
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ruddiger posted:Did they fix the aspect ratio and interlacing issues? Yes, it looked great at my showing.
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Mister Speaker posted:This has got me interested because Alien and Aliens have a similar arc, where the original is decidedly horror and the sequel is, while scary, definitely more action-oriented. I wonder at what point during pre-production was Cameron like "Oh, we're making an action movie," when the studio drove a dumptruck full of money up to his house? Were action movies even thought of like that, before he took two franchises - one of which he wrote - and made them into boom-boom spectacles? Your standard horror movie series is usually the same bad thing doing the same bad thing it does over and over again, but just in new locations. With a new story lore to advance the origins or reason why it was born/created. Not saying this is boring, it suits slasher flicks, but not Alien where 99% was still mystery even after it was airlocked. If it followed the 'standard' way of horror movies, Alien 2 would mean either another egg being discovered from the Space Jockey and taken away by a new ship, or they found the first Alien floating in space not really deaded by Ripley and it rampages again on a new ship or station. Both sound ok on the first glance and Cameron would have probably thought of these in first drafts. But the first option will be just a retelling of the first movie but now with no suspension as you know what the gently caress it is and what has to happen. And the second, would be better of the two outcomes, but would still be virtually the first again in a larger locale. Sure both may be good popcorn movies and the studios would have greenlit them instantly. Totally glad we are in the universe where Cameron decided 'hmm what would be a possible reaction to the Alien by humanity (The Company)' instead. Some poor rear end universes got Alien Takes Manhattan and Alien: The Revenge making GBS threads up their theaters.
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happyhippy posted:Some poor rear end universes got Alien Takes Manhattan and Alien: The Revenge making GBS threads up their theaters. Yeah but think about it like if AvP: Requiem was made in like 1988 it would have whipped rear end. IIRC for the Exorcist sequels a super cheapo rehash was seriously considered for awhile. Like the plot would be someone new is possessed, let's have 3/4 of the run time be the new characters researching the events of the first movie and showing unused takes from the first movie."  Exorcist II: The Heretic is really loving bad and is like a more expensive dogshit riff on Abby in some ways but I'm glad they swung for the moon and the ball went so wide it's still flying through space to this day.
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happyhippy posted:Your standard horror movie series is usually the same bad thing doing the same bad thing it does over and over again, but just in new locations. With a new story lore to advance the origins or reason why it was born/created. One of the reasons I like Aliens so much as a sequel is it keeps the same "people making realistically good/bad decisions" (they aren't all clueless idiots except when it makes reasonable sense) feel from the first film and follows up appropriately. Sure, they mostly disregard the wild tales of the lone survivor with no evidence/obvious mental issues, but the second something happens that fits with her story they send an armed response team with experience killing hostile life forms instead of being chucklefucks and sending an unarmed repair team or something. They don't KNOW Ripley is right, but they aren't going to blindly stick with their first judgement when something happens proving she could be. People generally fail in the Alien universe because they just aren't ready for the xenos despite what they thought, not because they were drooling idiots who didn't at least make a reasonable effort to do the smart thing like so many horror victims. Every time you have somebody who does screw up, they have a well foreshadowed in-character issue and their screw up reflects that issue appropriately. Lambert was the most scared of the original Alien crew, makes sense she freezes up when faced with the xeno right in her face. Gorman's a green lieutenant, he makes reasonably trained but newbie decisions and just isn't flexible enough to handle the situation when it degrades too far into chaos (cover fire with flame throwers while they fall back isn't a terrible order, but when comms fail and he loses his XO he locks up at any sort of follow-up). And of course Ash/Burke are motivated by greed indirectly/directly, which by definition overrides common sense.
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I had a horrific Alien: Isolation dream the other night, and I've come to realize that the Nostromo alarm sound is quite possibly the most unsettling alarm sound ever designed. For reference, not that anyone here needs it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-K8qP1m_s4
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I had a horrific Alien: Isolation dream the other night, and I've come to realize that the Nostromo alarm sound is quite possibly the most unsettling alarm sound ever designed. No lie. As a result of seeing the film in the theater at age 10, that sounds provokes an absolutely Pavlovian response in me. During the part in the game where Amanda and the creature are in the Gemini module and that siren is going off, no matter how many times I play it, I am always gripped with this sense of terror that makes my heart race and often makes me panic and screw up.
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Hello new ring tone. (Replacing the Purge siren)
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Anybody remember the Doom mod that replaced everything that was Aliens themed? They even added the sounds of the guns. The best mod for Doom ever made. Probably 1995-1996. I LOVED the game so much
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Mister Speaker posted:This has got me interested because Alien and Aliens have a similar arc, where the original is decidedly horror and the sequel is, while scary, definitely more action-oriented. I wonder at what point during pre-production was Cameron like "Oh, we're making an action movie," when the studio drove a dumptruck full of money up to his house? I'm not sure how "action-y" they were thinking, but the idea to make it 'Alien 2' a war movie was Walter Hill and David Giler's. They basically thought to cross the first 'Alien' with another film of theirs, 'Southern Comfort.' That film was more of a 'Deliverance'-style thriller, but it's easy to imagine how the "action" extended from the whole military theme.
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Burning Beard posted:Anybody remember the Doom mod that replaced everything that was Aliens themed? They even added the sounds of the guns. The best mod for Doom ever made. Probably 1995-1996. I LOVED the game so much I replayed it a few years ago (evidently it went missing for a while and then was found?) and it still holds up. Really good mod.
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