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The Door Frame posted:Does that also apply to the CX3 or CX30? Right on the edge of my budget is a new CX30 with all the fixins, but I'm skeptical of them for reasons I have trouble articulating I think they're generally well liked too. The CX-3 has the 2.0L engine and is shrunken a bit, and the CX-30 has the 2.5L and is a bit more spacious. Of the two, I'd go CX-30. Unless you're set on an crossover though, the Mazda3 hatchback may be worth consideration too. The biggest dimensional difference is the ground clearance, which goes from 5.5" to 8" with the CX-30. So I can't imagine they're going to be drastically different from an ownership experience. It's essentially the same car with a lift kit.
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OP specifically told us they want to drive a Subie and then came up with all of their other requirements to justify that decision post-hoc. There's no other reason to stipulate "must be Japanese but not the two most popular Japanese brands." If you're the kind of person to think Subies are cool because you secretly dream of being the kind of person who drives around with mountain bikes on their tailgate that have never been used, that's a specific taste. Maybe give us some other examples of cars you think are cool? Because I think of those as mom cars and I honestly cannot get a good sense of your tastes from your post. Now if I wanted to be baller on a budget without any wrenching skills and I didn't want to go Lexus for whatever reason, I'd take a serious look at the Koreans. A Stinger or G70 comes with a 100k mile warranty, and pre-covid, dealers were practically giving them away. You might be able to find an okay deal on an off lease one. But that's a much different idea of "cool" than an Impreza. If that's too luxe for you, there's also the Veloster, which is... quirky? IDK, people think they're cool. Then there's like a Civic Si. Any of those look cool to you? And as people said, the Mazda 3 is a decent choice too. This is out there but what about a Miata? Edit: and non-WRX Imprezas are not the least bit luxury or fast or anything. They're inexpensive economy cars. KillHour fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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The Door Frame posted:Does that also apply to the CX3 or CX30? Right on the edge of my budget is a new CX30 with all the fixins, but I'm skeptical of them for reasons I have trouble articulating The CX30 is pretty good and very popular accordingly. I'd probably get a 3 hatch if I was in the segment but if you like high riding crossovers for visibility or ease of loading it's just as good as the 3 minus the handling you lose for jacking it up and some of the cargo quibbles I have with smaller crossovers vs hatches. Loaded Mazda interiors are awesome right now and even not loaded are pretty great. I have a CX 5 and I'm in a CX30 rental right now because I haven't found infotainment I like quite as much as Mazdas. Knob based, quick to boot into Android auto, and just very pain free compared to some of the pains I have syncing phones or getting Android auto to work in rentals.
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Nitrox posted:In 100 words or less, tell us why Prius is not the car for you. They look bad? Math You posted:There was recently like a whole page in either this thread or new car thread about people's Subarus failing spectacularly at under 100k miles. I want a reliable japanese car but cool is exactly it. gonna read up on mazdas extensively now. it was in my purview but didnt know how they stacked up. thanks!!
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lmbo calrissian posted:I want a reliable japanese car but cool is exactly it. Subarus haven't been cool since the early 2000s. Why are you limiting this to Japanese cars?
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KillHour posted:OP specifically told us they want to drive a Subie and then came up with all of their other requirements to justify that decision post-hoc. There's no other reason to stipulate "must be Japanese but not the two most popular Japanese brands." Well I specifically don't want an suv or crossover, but I really was just using Subaru as an in depth reference point. I guess my intention was really just to ask if the economy models of these brands were anything special. So thank u for clearing that up My only tastes are vintage race/luxury cars, and I don't know what goes on under a hood, so they are nothing to go off. That said, what Lexus did you think is possible for baller on a budget? I am going to look at these koreans but no opinion yet. bird with big dick posted:If you can afford a $30,000 car and $7 gas you can afford a $50,000 car and $0.10 electricity, get an EV. i mean, i'll start looking on blue book. is there another resource for what's actually good on the market rn? that dont look like they were designed with a literal child's idea of what a car from the future looks like? lmbo calrissian fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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Motronic posted:Subarus haven't been cool since the early 2000s. Just bc I know nothing about american other than the old stereotype of them being behind/not lasting over 100 miles. And the service costs of euro cars?
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lmbo calrissian posted:Just bc I know nothing about american other than the old stereotype of them being behind/not lasting over 100 miles. And the service costs of euro cars? Um. Japan and "America" are not the only places that make cars. Your actual preferences are pretty difficult to divine from your posting. You seem to want something specific but aren't willing to say what that thing is. I don't think that's a particular car, but you want a particular thing/feature and it's not entirely clear what that is but becoming increasingly clear it's probably something you're embarrassed to say is a preference. I'm guessing it's "looks out of my price range" is it.
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This is the perfect choice for someone who wants a Japanese compact but not a Honda or Toyota. I managed to snag a turbo awd for ~28-29k before the market got weird, but you can get the non turbo versions with the same fake leather and the nice stereo for less. Great car for the money. A cx30 is the same thing but a bit taller for a little more cash.
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lmbo calrissian posted:My only tastes are vintage race or luxury cars, and I don't know what goes on under a hood, so they are nothing to go off. That said, what Lexus did you think is possible for baller on a budget? I'm not a Lexus guy but something like an LS460 is probably the final word in understated, cheap Japanese luxury. I'm sure the JDM goons will rattle off exactly what you should look for. Maybe look at the VW Golf if you're open to Ze Germans. Honestly Motronic is right. Maybe just Google search cars and post a few you like the look of (regardless of make or price or anything) so we can get an idea of what exactly you're looking for. If you want "looks way more expensive than it actually was," you should really look at the Koreans. KillHour fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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Motronic posted:Um. Japan and "America" are not the only places that make cars. Not really. I said that I'm fully open to suggestions and my only point was something that is a little sexy while being worth it for me who doesn't know his way around. Of course I like cars that look expensive, I know I can't afford it and so I'm asking for suggestions on a few steps down. My idea of what's cool is something I'd like people in the thread to inform me about. Which is why I'm loving the mazda suggestions. Not embarrassed either. Are you projecting? I mentioned in above posts about the service costs of european cars (unless people give me greater insight to this), and that I don't know yet know about korean cars, I know not only Japan/US make cars man
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lmbo calrissian posted:Not really. I said that I'm fully open to suggestions and my only point was something that is a little sexy while being worth it for me who doesn't know his way around. Of course I like cars that look expensive, I know I can't afford it and so I'm asking for suggestions on a few steps down. My idea of what's cool is something I'd like people in the thread to inform me about. Which is why I'm loving the mazda suggestions. Not embarrassed either. Are you projecting? The problem is "looks cool" is subjective. I think this looks cool. Do you?  What about this?  Or this  Maybe you think some or all of those are cool. Or maybe they're too "boy racer." In that case, how about this:  Or this  Or maybe  Maybe those are too pretentious. So how about this.  Or  Maybe you're more of a retro Americana person?   Or maybe, just maybe....  No? How about sporty and Japanese?  No wait, sporty and Japanese with Italian styling!  Every one of those cars are "cool" cars, in that there are tons of people who think they are cool. What do you think is cool? Start by telling us which of those cars are "cool" to you and why. KillHour fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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Yeah, you need to do your homework. Learn the market, drive a few, get a feel for what you like. Then maybe ask for opinions about specific cars.
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Reliable Japanese vehicle that looks cool as heck? Clearly a 25 year old imported kei truck is the answer. Maybe a little light on the "sporty" requirement... (Don't actually get a kei truck, please. Unless you're buying it for me)
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KillHour posted:The problem is "looks cool" is subjective. I think this looks cool. Do you? Every single one of these cars looks cool, except the Challenger and especially the Lexus.
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nitsuga posted:I think they're generally well liked too. The CX-3 has the 2.0L engine and is shrunken a bit, and the CX-30 has the 2.5L and is a bit more spacious. Of the two, I'd go CX-30. Unless you're set on an crossover though, the Mazda3 hatchback may be worth consideration too. The biggest dimensional difference is the ground clearance, which goes from 5.5" to 8" with the CX-30. zedprime posted:The CX3 is kind of deprecated for American tastes. It's on the subcompact Mazda 2 platform and brings the worst of all subcompact and crossovers. If it were up to me, we'd be getting a 3 or a maybe just a used hybrid if I were being cheap and practical. However, when I brought up the 3, the missus specifically said that we weren't getting another hatchback, that we needed something bigger with more room, like a CX3 or CX30. This is not a hill I'd particularly care to die on, so CX30 it is. I am impressed by the Mazda interiors, they seem fun to drive, the HP/MPG ratio is good enough, I trust Mazda to not deliver a lemon, and they pretty commonly have our two must have features; adaptive cruise control and Car Play. Lucky lucky But there is another car she seems to really dig, the Nissan Kicks. I'm not a fan of because it seems like it'd be completely gutless, but besides being slow and probably not that fun to drive, is there anything actually bad about them? She's mostly buying for herself, so my worries about performance don't carry much weight
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The CX-30 and the Mazda3 hatchback have almost identical amounts of room. I would do some more research before making a decision. Probably worth going to the CX-5/CX-50.
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lmbo calrissian posted:i mean, i'll start looking on blue book. is there another resource for what's actually good on the market rn? that dont look like they were designed with a literal child's idea of what a car from the future looks like? You should not take that post you quoted claiming that you'll save 20k on gas in a reasonable time frame by spending 50k on an electric car as entirely serious, at least in the specific numbers quoted. You said you don't currently have a commute at all, and you might eventually have a 30 mile commute. 30 miles each way daily 50 weeks of the year is 15,000 miles/year, and even at the $7/gal price Bird mentioned (which we shouldn't assume will be sustained) a normal sedan getting 30mpg is using 500 gal of gas a year x $7 is $3500/year. So in that very worst-case scenario of sustaining a 30 mile each way commute for many years and gas sticking at an average of $7/gal, you'll take almost six years just to break even on +$20k, not accounting for any other cost of ownership factors and also pretending the electricity is literally free. However. You don't have to spend $50k to buy a used electric car, and you can also split the difference and go for a hybrid that gets 50mpg like... a Prius. You can even get a sporty-looking hybrid. Do you like any of these? https://www.truecar.com/best-cars-trucks/sedans/fuel-hybrid/ Also are you eliminating hatchbacks? We distinguish a hatchback from a sedan but you might not have intended to. I personally find hatchbacks to be much more practical than cars with separated trunks.
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The Door Frame posted:But there is another car she seems to really dig, the Nissan Kicks. I'm not a fan of because it seems like it'd be completely gutless, but besides being slow and probably not that fun to drive, is there anything actually bad about them? She's mostly buying for herself, so my worries about performance don't carry much weight I recently rented a kicks and while it performed okay, I didn't like it at all. Just kept seeing and feeling all the cheapness of the interior all over. Granted, this one was a few years old and didn't even have android auto/Carplay support. Definitely file it under test drive before serious consideration.
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Internet Explorer posted:The CX-30 and the Mazda3 hatchback have almost identical amounts of room. I would do some more research before making a decision. Probably worth going to the CX-5/CX-50. Oh, that's why I said it wasn't a hill I would die on. I think a Mazda 3 hatch has the perfect amount of room, and she suggested a car that had basically the same amount of room that I thought we needed, but is just taller. Perfect compromise. She rejected bigger vehicles like the Rogue and CX5, so I think she just likes the look of a CUV, even if it's a miniature CUV  Explosionface posted:I recently rented a kicks and while it performed okay, I didn't like it at all. Just kept seeing and feeling all the cheapness of the interior all over. Granted, this one was a few years old and didn't even have android auto/Carplay support. Definitely file it under test drive before serious consideration. I've been in my coworkers' Juke and being amazed that he thought it was nice, but I'm extra suspicious of the Kicks because of how cheap and easily you can get Car Play and Adaptive Cruise Control in a brand new one
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The Door Frame posted:If it were up to me, we'd be getting a 3 or a maybe just a used hybrid if I were being cheap and practical. However, when I brought up the 3, the missus specifically said that we weren't getting another hatchback, that we needed something bigger with more room, like a CX3 or CX30. This is not a hill I'd particularly care to die on, so CX30 it is. I am impressed by the Mazda interiors, they seem fun to drive, the HP/MPG ratio is good enough, I trust Mazda to not deliver a lemon, and they pretty commonly have our two must have features; adaptive cruise control and Car Play. Lucky lucky Nissan has a history of delivering (IMO) uninspiring vehicles. I don't think it would be unfair to say their offerings in a lot of regards are not on the same tier as Mazda (or Honda or Toyota et cetera) and for a number of reasons. Any of the Mazda crossovers would be a better choice. Being respectful of her opinion though, I think the best thing you can do at this point is have her try out some of these possibilities (and maybe send her an Edmunds review or two).
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The Door Frame posted:Oh, that's why I said it wasn't a hill I would die on. I think a Mazda 3 hatch has the perfect amount of room, and she suggested a car that had basically the same amount of room that I thought we needed, but is just taller. Perfect compromise. All fair. As long as you know what you're getting.
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KillHour posted:The problem is "looks cool" is subjective. I think this looks cool. Do you? Ok I'll entertain this if it'll give you kind folks any clearer picture. But to restate this is for gathering aesthetic style, which isn't the most important based on my original ask, but since you ask. I don't hate how a Stinger looks if it's all black, but suggesting it defeats the fact that I'm looking for fuel economy. And I kinda stand by my original budget cap  Otherwise the first 3 are too racer boy, yes. The first one is quite funny, the old guy in wraparounds really seals it I hate how challengers/chargers look. but that greenish one is kinda cool, what is it? I'm just not a convertible person at all. Or coupes, as I'm actually not trying to pick up chicks The Genesis is too pretentious to me yes, feels like they were trying really hard to make a car that passes off as european I do like how some Lexus' look. I like how Golfs/GTI look and they have the cool/unique factor I appreciate, ultimately not looking for hatchback tho So, others:     since yall suggested thisDo laugh at my taste. Leperflesh, I'm not looking for hatchbacks, space is not something I need at all. Will get back to that hybrid list soon, thanks! lmbo calrissian fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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I had a rental kicks a few years back and it definitely has way less room than a 3 hatch. What I remember most about it was its laughably small gas tank. It managed like 3.5hrs on the highway before I had to fuel it. Well under 400km. I'm usually okay with a smaller tank, but what the gently caress? Basically makes it impossible to complete ANY decent day of driving on a single tank. If I took it camping I'd probably have to bring a few cans of gas with me.
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lmbo calrissian posted:Hello, you are about to witness an ask post from the biggest possible dumbass dadless car shopper. I really have no one left to ask IRL, so I'm counting on you guys I would get like a 2014 BMW 7 series, tbh Full size sedan Looks cool Toyota uses bmws for their supra now so they're basically Japanese Under 25k
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Hadlock posted:I would get like a 2014 BMW 7 series, tbh Agreed, look at Audi A8 too. I don’t think you’ll get to 25k unless they’re miled out to all hell but at least check it out.
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Audis are just warmed over Passats Like buying a Corvette only to find out it has all the interior parts from a Chevy Cobalt
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Hadlock posted:Audis are just warmed over Passats Nah that's wrong and you should feel bad. There are very few parts bin things in a nice modern Audi. Platform is one thing, I know A3/Golf are very similar, but A8 is a special ride any way you slice it. I'm biased for the dying full size luxo sedan segment though, I like all of them a lot.
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lmbo calrissian posted:Ok I'll entertain this if it'll give you kind folks any clearer picture. But to restate this is for gathering aesthetic style, which isn't the most important based on my original ask, but since you ask. I don't hate how a Stinger looks if it's all black, but suggesting it defeats the fact that I'm looking for fuel economy. And I kinda stand by my original budget cap How about any of these?        These are all new, close to $25k and most can have a hybrid engine or already get close to 30mpg. You're very limited by your criteria because no one wants to sell cheap sedans anymore, so there aren't many other choices. If I were you I'd drive the shitbox for another couple of years, and up my budget to 40-50k and then look at ze germans or luxury Japanese/Korean then. Apparently you can get a BMW 3 electric for $45k now? That's not an ugly electric. Mustache Ride fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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Just go to Carmax and find the coolest looking small car to you and problem solved.
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Mustache Ride posted:How about any of these? The Kia’s I’m both kinda liking. Is the last mazda a hybrid too or has the option of it? Yea my friend got a used i3 but it’s hideous. Is the 3 series EV just cheaper than the i4? Loan Dusty Road posted:Just go to Carmax and find the coolest looking small car to you and problem solved. I know this is the simpler route than all the wild stuff I posted, and I may v much go this route, but I still found it very valuable to just hear each and every one’s diverse perspectives anyway. I really really appreciate everyone’s responses!
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Gonna prowl car max and see if I can find a Subaru that needs a good home with a very broke driver Buy this goon’s Accord: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3515402&perpage=40&noseen=1&pagenumber=31#post524382131
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nitsuga posted:Buy this goon’s Accord: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3515402&perpage=40&noseen=1&pagenumber=31#post524382131 Dang, looking at that thread, cars with a lot of miles are going for more thousands of dollars than I was expecting.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:cars with a lot of miles are going for more thousands of dollars than I was expecting. 
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I might come back and post the template, but as a general car buying question right now, is there anything to make things easier in this market? Car broker? I'm more flexible on cost. Trying to get a small/mid sized electric SUV is like trying to hunt down a unicorn right now.
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Internet Explorer posted:I might come back and post the template, but as a general car buying question right now, is there anything to make things easier in this market? Car broker? I'm more flexible on cost. Trying to get a small/mid sized electric SUV is like trying to hunt down a unicorn right now. I went through a broker for my last car and I would do it again 100%. Check Leasehackr. https://forum.leasehackr.com/c/marketplace/7
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Hello, thread! I am looking to buy a used car: I'm trying to find a nice comfortable crossover/sub compact SUV, for about 20ish-thousand. Now note, my last four cars combined are all under this price point, and after I bought my last beater my wife made me promise I'd get a nice car this time. So this time I'm going to swing all the other way and get like a luxury car. I was looking at the NX but it's a bit too pricey. What are thread recomendations?
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