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Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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The USS Benterprise

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Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light
Here's a goofy ship from the short-lived 70s sitcom Quark.



The lower section opened up to collect "space baggies" of garbage.



Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Strange.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Yet somehow charming.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Space ships are submarines. That is the best way to think of them.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Mister Kingdom posted:

Here's a goofy ship from the short-lived 70s sitcom Quark.



The lower section opened up to collect "space baggies" of garbage.





I remember that show! It wasn't good, but... I mean, it was on, so I watched it.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Mister Kingdom posted:

Here's a goofy ship from the short-lived 70s sitcom Quark.



The lower section opened up to collect "space baggies" of garbage.





Similarly here is the DS-12 "Toy Box" from the manga/anime series Planetes.

The series takes place in the 2070s and follows the crew of the Toy Box who are a space garbage clean up crew. They fly around between the Earth and the Moon picking up all the junk left over from over a hundred years of space flight. It is mostly hard science fiction dealing with stuff like the dangers of cosmic radiation exposure and the importance of actually exercising in microgravity to avoid muscle loss.

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009


Culture General System Vehicles, at least the later models, are described as having their living space significantly extended by the use of force fields to enclose external air pockets. I don't think there are any pictures of GSVs but I imagine them looking like smaller, friendlier versions of the Death Star.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









They are just huge mirrored sausages i think

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


sebmojo posted:

They are just huge mirrored sausages i think

That's what they look like from the outside. From the inside they've been described as a large central mass topped with a park, with an outrigger structure on each side. Later GSVs are more like multiple floating islands within the same field enclosure.

The largest GSV (system class) had a field enclosure 200km long. Plate class, ~53km.

They're big.

OutsideAngel
May 4, 2008
Not just air pockets, we see at least one Culture ship wrap itself in entire oceans using its fields

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




A Plate-class GSV's physical structure is roughly 54x20x4 km, usually with a topside park landscape for the inhabitants to enjoy. With fields fully extended its field bubble (which is what they really think of as their 'outer hull') is 90km long. There's a fair bit of variation, some have been described with outriggers, some not, and there are usually lots of smaller vehicles sharing the field bubble, even other multi-kilometre-long MSVs or LSVs.

Generally from outside they look like a silvery elliptical bubble, but under that they'd probably look something like if you imagine this image floating in space.



Most GSVs follow the similar 'flat plate' structure, but the latest and most advanced and largest ones, the Systems-Class GSV, has given up the illusion of being a single structure altogether and is a bubble 200km wide with many floating 'islands' of structures and components inside.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Jun 23, 2022

Hispanic! At The Disco
Dec 25, 2011


Madurai posted:

I remember that show! It wasn't good, but... I mean, it was on, so I watched it.

Quark aired back in the day when "best in it's time slot" could do a lot of heavy lifting.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm
It’s been a long time since I’ve read Dan Simmon’s Hyperion series but there was one faction (a quick look at a wiki seems to point to the Ousters) that had like rivers suspended in force fields between some of their ships.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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I like the idea of ships that are more of a bottled piece of their home planet than anything.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

david_a posted:

It’s been a long time since I’ve read Dan Simmon’s Hyperion series but there was one faction (a quick look at a wiki seems to point to the Ousters) that had like rivers suspended in force fields between some of their ships.

There's another class of ship that's just a giant tree floating in space with engines and forcefield generators glonked on

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


haveblue posted:

There's another class of ship that's just a giant tree floating in space with engines and forcefield generators glonked on
That reminds me of this bit from Surface Detail

Iain M. Banks in Surface Detail posted:

It was a truism that as a scientific society progressed, its ships gradually ceased to be strictly utilitarian designs in which almost every part was in some way vital to the running of the craft. Normally they went through an intermediate stage where the overall conception was still limited by the necessities imposed by the environment in which the vessels travelled but within which there was considerable opportunity for the designers, crew, and passengers/inhabitants to fashion them pretty much as they pleased before - usually some centuries after the gross vulgarity of rocket power - simple space travel become so mature a technology it was almost trivial. At this point, practically anything not messily joined to lots of other important stuff could quite easily be turned into a space-capable craft able to transport humans - or any other species spectacularly maladapted to hard vacuum and the somewhat industrial radiation environment generally associated with it - to (at the very least) different parts of the same stellar system.

A stand-alone building was almost laughably easy to convert; a bit of strengthening and rigidising, some only semi-scrupulous sealant work, throw a gel coat over the whole thing as well just to be doubly sure, strap on an engine unit or two somewhere, and you were away. In the Culture, you could even dispense with sensory and navigation systems; stay within a light year or two of the nearest Orbital and you could navigate with your own neural lace, even an antique pen terminal. It was DIY space travel, and people did exactly that, though - always to the surprise of those just on the brink of contributing to the relevant statistics - the results made it one of the more dangerous hobbies pursued with any enthusiasm within the Culture.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

That reminds me of this bit from Surface Detail

This makes me think of the guys making RC flying Lawnmowers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26PpA1kFIWw

Like that thing was never meant to fly but we've gotten so good at making small motors to provide lift that with enough effort you can do it.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light
More Quark ships:

The base, Perma One:



And the Gorgon ship:

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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I feel like those look more like models than the ships in supermarionation shows

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
The Gorgon ship reminds me of what Brainiacs ship in Superman Lives (the Nick Cage Superman movie) was going to look like



His ship has always been a skull but its always some crazy techno robot skull, using the skull of a early hominid is a really cool and striking design.

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Madurai posted:

Every time I see a spaceship tractor tug with a train of containers behind it, all I see is this:


"Sador you sonuvabitch, this is Space Cowboy from the planet Earth!"

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"
It has been ages since I checked this thread, so I can't remember if I posted these yet. However, I always liked the spaceship designs from Project A-ko. Say what you will about the movies (or that anime is bad), but the starfighters always looked particularly sweet imho:











The alien warship was pretty good, too

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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There is a lot of bulk to those that I appreciate

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
It looks like the Core Booster ot the G Fighter if it was more like a practical ship and less of a toy.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Looks like one of the fighters from the original Battlestar Galactica but thicc.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
tfw you're dummy thicc but the claps of your dradis keep alerting the megatrons

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"
Yeah, I love how chonky they are. I think today's sci-fi sometimes forgets that it's okay for a single person ship to be big. There's a lot of things that ship has to do to keep you alive, comfortable, and mobile in space.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"
If you want to see them in action (and get mercilessly dunked on by the alien ship), here's a clip. The space part is over at 5 minutes and then goes back to what Project A-ko is (ridiculously weird and dumb but I love it).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki6LD61qKyo

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Bogus Adventure posted:

Yeah, I love how chonky they are. I think today's sci-fi sometimes forgets that it's okay for a single person ship to be big. There's a lot of things that ship has to do to keep you alive, comfortable, and mobile in space.

Spaceman Spiff had everything he needed

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Bogus Adventure posted:

It has been ages since I checked this thread, so I can't remember if I posted these yet. However, I always liked the spaceship designs from Project A-ko. Say what you will about the movies (or that anime is bad), but the starfighters always looked particularly sweet imho:











The alien warship was pretty good, too



Project A-ko is amazing and is literally the wellspring of modern anime. Like basically everyone who went on to make something notable in the 90s worked on it, because they all started making a porn anime called Cream Lemon. Including Hideki Anno, who was the only one who didn't use a pseudonym during production. Shoichi Masuo was the guy who designed all the ships and stuff using Toho films as referance, and he went on to work on a ton of mecha anime including Eva, Gunbuster and Orguss. Also Akira.

If youre interested in learning more about Project A-ko, consult the book in your local library, or just watch this very good history of it
https://youtu.be/JGKOzLG1g8s

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Bogus Adventure posted:

If you want to see them in action (and get mercilessly dunked on by the alien ship), here's a clip. The space part is over at 5 minutes and then goes back to what Project A-ko is (ridiculously weird and dumb but I love it).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki6LD61qKyo

The shot of the two fighters at 2:12 is straight out of Robotech. Same with the cockpit controls lighting up immediately after and the pilot's face.

This isn't a complaint, I loving love this poo poo.


edit: they were all made around the same time - mid 80s. The height of anime as cool weird poo poo stretching the boundaries of what was possible.

Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Jun 27, 2022

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Oops, wrong thread.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Brawnfire posted:

Spaceman Spiff had everything he needed

Spiff was constantly getting his rear end kicked lol

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


As usual with anime,Ako would be far better without the weird sexualised stuff.

Also in a blink and you'll miss it moment it turns out she's the daughter of superman and wonderwoman.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

twistedmentat posted:

Project A-ko is amazing and is literally the wellspring of modern anime. Like basically everyone who went on to make something notable in the 90s worked on it, because they all started making a porn anime called Cream Lemon. Including Hideki Anno, who was the only one who didn't use a pseudonym during production. Shoichi Masuo was the guy who designed all the ships and stuff using Toho films as referance, and he went on to work on a ton of mecha anime including Eva, Gunbuster and Orguss. Also Akira.

If youre interested in learning more about Project A-ko, consult the book in your local library, or just watch this very good history of it
https://youtu.be/JGKOzLG1g8s

I knew the Cream Lemon part, but didn't know about Shoichi Masuo and the mecha designs. That loving owns. Gunbuster has some sweet spaceships even if it's another weird anime.



I know some of them have a very Star Wars vibe, but I feel like that's a feature rather than a flaw.

Megillah Gorilla posted:

The shot of the two fighters at 2:12 is straight out of Robotech. Same with the cockpit controls lighting up immediately after and the pilot's face.

This isn't a complaint, I loving love this poo poo.


edit: they were all made around the same time - mid 80s. The height of anime as cool weird poo poo stretching the boundaries of what was possible.

Hell yeah, '80s anime had some really awesome tech/mecha stuff. I remember seeing a bunch of sci fi anime back when the SyFi channel was the Sci-Fi channel and they had Saturday Anime in the early mornings. That was how I learned about Project A-ko, Gall Force, Dominion Tank Police, and Vampire Hunter D. That last kind of made me :staredog: since I had no idea what it was about and I got to watch a guy's head get crushed and explode. I was probably 13 and a pretty sheltered kid for the most part. Fun times!

bij
Feb 24, 2007

Bogus Adventure posted:

I knew the Cream Lemon part, but didn't know about Shoichi Masuo and the mecha designs. That loving owns. Gunbuster has some sweet spaceships even if it's another weird anime.

The Exelion's laser batteries are HOT.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

bij posted:

The Exelion's laser batteries are HOT.



Those are beautiful

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Yeah that is some highly aesthetic beam weaponry

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wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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bij posted:

The Exelion's laser batteries are HOT.



I could watch that all day.

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