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galenanorth
May 19, 2016

I liked the chemistry lab explosion at the beginning of the episode, not a movie fireball explosion, like a puff-of-smoke and then the force field containment with "shoot, I inhaled some of that" and then it briefly being investigated as a possible cause of the events. Every detail was perfect

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Gwaihir posted:

What an absolutely exceptional episode. This show owns. Glad they got some good quality time with Hemmer on this one too, although I do echo the sentiment that Enterprise's Andorians were and still are the best looking version of that species, largely because of yeah, the antenna movements they did really accentuated Shran and company's expressions.

You loving racist. He's an Aenar.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Cojawfee posted:

You loving racist. He's an Aenar.

Actually, suggesting that Aenar and Andorians aren't even the same species would be racist. Like saying Black and White people are two different species. So, since Andorians and Aenar are the same species, and Enterprise mainly only showed Andorians, it would be correct to say "Enterprise's Andorians were the best looking version of (that species)". :smug:

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Aug 2, 2021

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XboxPants posted:

Actually, suggesting that Aenar and Andorians aren't even the same species would be racist. Like saying Black and White people are two different species. So, since Andorians and Aenar are the same species, and Enterprise mainly only showed Andorians, it would be correct to say "Enterprise's Andorians were the best looking version of (that species)". :smug:

Understanding and accepting racial differences is SO CLOSE to the writing on Discovery that it makes me want to spontaneously ejaculate blood

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



I Am Fowl posted:

I kind of love that M'benga's daughter was writing shipping the characters in her head. Do you think she progressed to full on fanfics in the nebula with Debra?

Gonna pretend that they trap passing ships and make them perform 1 fanfic before letting them leave

Truly a terrible entity!

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

Gonna pretend that they trap passing ships and make them perform 1 fanfic before letting them leave

Truly a terrible entity!

conSCRIPTion

I'll get my coat

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

Gonna pretend that they trap passing ships and make them perform 1 fanfic before letting them leave

Truly a terrible entity!

"Truly, it was a paradise."

"And all you had to put up with was one really annoying Star Trek fan."

"Let's get out of here."

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This thread brought to you by a tremendous dickhead!

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

Gonna pretend that they trap passing ships and make them perform 1 fanfic before letting them leave

Truly a terrible entity!

Melllvar rides again.

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


This weeks SNW: I'm not crying.... you're crying!!!! :cry:

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Gwaihir posted:

Glad they got some good quality time with Hemmer on this one too, although I do echo the sentiment that Enterprise's Andorians were and still are the best looking version of that species, largely because of yeah, the antenna movements they did really accentuated Shran and company's expressions.

I'm going to partly agree and partly disagree
I think Enterprise's Andorians were the most advanced from a technical and special effects standpoint and looked great, but they suffered from the same sort if problem that the Klingons suffered from and that the Vulcans still suffer from, which is that they're obviously just people in blue makeup and with antennae. Adding little ridges and points to their face, which was done by Duscovery and SNW at least suggests that, hey, these are aliens. They don't look just like human beings. I think there's something nice about that.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
Yeah, I don't dislike that part, but also "blue face people" didn't really bother me either. You gotta attribute part of the success of Enterprise Andorians to the amount of time they got as characters and just how good Jeffrey coombs is too, I think.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



What a wonderful episode. Every moment was a treat. Honestly this is one of my all time favorite episode of Trek ever.

G-III
Mar 4, 2001

They haven't missed once. I'm amazed.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
Yeah, this is one for the books.

Clouseau
Aug 3, 2003

My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.
Another banger goddamn. Absorb one of the lessers and let's get a proper 20+ season in there (which would likely significantly drop it's batting average but that's fine.)

G-III
Mar 4, 2001

I shouldn't count the chickens before they come home to roost but in my view the spell of nu-trek has finally been broken

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


DaveKap posted:

Decent episode but I had a couple of problems. Firstly, the incredible closeness to "gently caress yeah science" or "I loving love science." Any time something resembles Discovery writing, I start to recoil like I smelled vomit.

It felt to me like they were mocking the line there so I was fine with it.

XboxPants posted:

I was glad to see a little bit of wiggle in Hemmer's antennae, but I wish they were as expressive as they made them on Enterprise. They were always squirming all over the place in that show... animatronics? I'm glad to see Hemmer isn't just a curmudgeon but he has a fun side, too.

Yeah they were remote controlled in Enterprise and showed emotion. I cannot express how mad I am that they got rid of that for the new makeup. Incomprehensible choice.

The Chairman
Jun 30, 2003

But you forget, mon ami, that there is evil everywhere under the sun
I took Hemmer's lines about science as him playing along with the setting and the role he was assigned in a very begrudging, Hemmer-y way, especially since his two examples of "science" were "using a cutting torch" and "pressing a button on the tricorder"

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Anson Mount was having the most fun out of anyone this episode. His expressions were amazing and I love him. :allears:

Check out the Volume for next episode:

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

The_Doctor posted:

Anson Mount was having the most fun out of anyone this episode.

Disagree, I think Christina Chong edged him out there. Especially given how restrained she usually needs to play it. And the dog.

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Aug 2, 2021

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The Chairman posted:

I took Hemmer's lines about science as him playing along with the setting and the role he was assigned in a very begrudging, Hemmer-y way, especially since his two examples of "science" were "using a cutting torch" and "pressing a button on the tricorder"

Yeah, this is the correct, non-brokebrained response, not that it was a secret Discovery slam

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



The_Doctor posted:

Anson Mount was having the most fun out of anyone this episode. His expressions were amazing and I love him. :allears:

Check out the Volume for next episode:



It must be so much nicer to do acting in front of those live screens instead of the blue/green screen void they have been using for the past 20ish years

TomR
Apr 1, 2003
I both own and operate a pirate ship.
I was literally in tears. I'm so happy for that ending and also that proper Star Trek is back. I love SNW so much.

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Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Nitrousoxide posted:

It must be so much nicer to do acting in front of those live screens instead of the blue/green screen void they have been using for the past 20ish years

We've had almost 20 years of genre media production stills being huge swathes of green. It's so cool to see the fully actualized sets and the actors actually performing in them

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

The_Doctor posted:

Anson Mount was having the most fun out of anyone this episode. His expressions were amazing and I love him. :allears:

Check out the Volume for next episode:



Now I'm gonna be spending the whole week wondering how a starship manages to crash at that angle

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

The Chairman posted:

I took Hemmer's lines about science as him playing along with the setting and the role he was assigned in a very begrudging, Hemmer-y way, especially since his two examples of "science" were "using a cutting torch" and "pressing a button on the tricorder"

I agree. This wasn't "THAT'S THE POWER OF MATH PEOPLE! THIS IS WHY WE SCIENCE!" It was Hemmer trying to play along in the story.

Butternubs
Feb 15, 2012
There was one big glaring flaw in this episode: not enough Christina Chong singing.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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The_Doctor posted:

Anson Mount was having the most fun out of anyone this episode. His expressions were amazing and I love him. :allears:

Check out the Volume for next episode:



I feel as though the Volume is most appropriate for Star Trek out of any show, because standing around in front of a painting next to some foam rocks is literally the TOS away team experience

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

Butternubs posted:

There was one big glaring flaw in this episode: not enough Christina Chong

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



Butternubs posted:

There was one big glaring flaw in this episode: not enough Christina Chong singing.

Singing a song of mourningggggggggggg and applauding by holding the dog's paws and clapping them together. And wearing a very sparkly dress.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal

G-III posted:

I shouldn't count the chickens before they come home to roost but in my view the spell of nu-trek has finally been broken

3/5 new Star Trek shows are good. I’m happy with that. Discovery and Picard can go sit at the kid’s table.

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



King: "You don't even know each other!"
Z'ymira: "Not to contradict you, but we know each other quite, quite well."
Adya: "Quite well."

Rukiya being a little shipper!

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

Phylodox posted:

Disagree, I think Christina Chong edged him out there. Especially given how restrained she usually needs to play it. And the dog.

Yeah, you can't really beat out the actor who got to just spend the whole shooting day with her dog.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
Next episode is the horror Gorn story on the spooky wrecked Constitution class ship and the finale is titled A Quality of Mercy…and M’Benga’s actor said in today’s Ready Room that we’d see his relationship with the Klingons. So I guess between that and the title we’re gonna get to see how SNW gets to interpret them.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Phylodox posted:

Disagree, I think Christina Chong edged him out there. Especially given how restrained she usually needs to play it. And the dog.

That dress could not restrain her, that's for sure

Super Deuce
May 25, 2006
TOILETS
Oh, I like the smell of my own dumps.
Episode was pretty boring. It wasn’t bad. It was just boring. I didn’t feel tired at all starting it, but fell asleep over and over at the 30 minute mark and had to kept rewinding.

Could have used some better scene chewing and haminess. Ortegas had too many lines and they were all so… blandly delivered. Chapel and La’an felt more into it, but were barely used. I don’t know, premise good, story good, space cloud good, just needed something to be a good episode for me. As it is, just kind of bland despite the premise.

killer crane posted:

Jeffery Combs's head just does that.

Super Deuce fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jun 24, 2022

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Lol, just read a thing about how Melissa Navia (Ortegas) heard that she would be playing a knight sometime in the season and started sword training for it with the stunt team. She had no clue what the context was or even what the fight was going to be but by god she would be prepared for it.

primaltrash
Feb 11, 2008

(Thought-ful Croak)
I want to group-hang with all of the Star Trek chief engineers, they're dope.

Super Deuce
May 25, 2006
TOILETS
Oh, I like the smell of my own dumps.

MillennialVulcan posted:

I want to group-hang with all of the Star Trek chief engineers, they're dope.

Geordi would make it weird. Another coco-no-no?

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Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



muscles like this! posted:

Lol, just read a thing about how Melissa Navia (Ortegas) heard that she would be playing a knight sometime in the season and started sword training for it with the stunt team. She had no clue what the context was or even what the fight was going to be but by god she would be prepared for it.

She's the best.

A bit more backstory:
https://www.cinemablend.com/intervi...like-to-do-next

Melissa Navia posted:

I know you guys won't see it but I’ll post pictures of [the costume]. Underneath, I have the coolest suspenders, and I have these leather pants. We’re telling each other, and I’m telling the writers, ‘We need to do like a Prohibition era-like thing. Maybe song and dance, mobsters.’ I just want to wear suspenders again, and a hat.

I don't know how to make it work, but I need to see a Strange New Worlds visit to the Iotians of "A Piece of the Action."

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