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lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

Frankly I don't even think £500k is all that much for a 1 off 25- unit run of a car like the Prodrive. The economy of scale really doesn't favour such a production run

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BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


Only resto modding a MK1 escort needs is the running gear from an Ecoboost Mustang.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

AFewBricksShy posted:

This reminds me of the new Lancia Deltas that were made a couple of years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZagcSGReUo

If I had stupid money, I'd absolutely have one of those.

i think they just started delivering these things last year. i was following some guy on IG who has one but he blocked me after i made a small joke about NFTs in the comments :shrug:

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


BigPaddy posted:

Only resto modding a MK1 escort needs is the running gear from an Ecoboost Mustang.

Old people with too much money think they can do better though. I remember the discussion was about getting Quaife to do the rear diff I think and some other companies to do the other bits and I'm sat there like JUST GET QUAIFE TO DO THE DRIVETRAIN YOU DIPSHITS! like that wouldn't make everything loads easier than dealing with half a dozen other companies. I do not understand companies or execs, they seem to want to do thing in the most ridiculously inefficient manner. It makes no sense to me.

WTFBEES
Apr 21, 2005

butt

Hey look at this kick-rear end van.



https://www.motor1.com/news/593940/ford-electric-supervan-reveal-specs/

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


^^ it's at Goodwood!

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Fun as it looks, i still prefer the XJ220 R&D mule (xj drivetrain on a transit chassis)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZO7mJ81hRE

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
The Ford Supervan is a whole thing for Ford that I feel like a lot of people don't know about.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

um excuse me posted:

It's awesome, but not half a million awesome. Make a homologation series and let me buy a WRX with an actual race bred motor and chassis in it. Subaru has fallen a long way.

You think Prodrive, the people who got famous building race motor and chassis Subaru WRC cars, should put a race motor and chassis in their half a million pound carbon bodied restomod version of their famous Subaru race car? Insightful, I bet they haven't thought of that! I know we're all miserable, cynical fucks these days and yes we should be eating the rich, but we can still enjoy the idea of nice things even if we can't have them. Christ.

By the way there WAS a homologation series you could buy a WRX with a race motor and chassis and enter, it was called Group N. If you race it, it's a race car.

lilbeefer posted:

Anything Prodrive is rad and AI as gently caress, get outta here with your logic and financial arguments

It's also not that pricey when you consider the cost of a clapped out 22b

Yeah half a million pounds is a lot of money, but real 22B's are half a million now anyway and I'm certain this Prodrive version is much more of a half million driving experience than a real one. From the story they're not starting with real 22B's, no ones gunna chop a real one up any more.

meltie
Nov 9, 2003

Not a sodding fridge.

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Old people with too much money think they can do better though. I remember the discussion was about getting Quaife to do the rear diff I think and some other companies to do the other bits and I'm sat there like JUST GET QUAIFE TO DO THE DRIVETRAIN YOU DIPSHITS! like that wouldn't make everything loads easier than dealing with half a dozen other companies. I do not understand companies or execs, they seem to want to do thing in the most ridiculously inefficient manner. It makes no sense to me.

the execs are trying to justify their existence


Olympic Mathlete posted:

^^ it's at Goodwood!

oh bollocks is it FOS this weekend? I meant to get over to that :cry:

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

BuckyDoneGun posted:

You think Prodrive, the people who got famous building race motor and chassis Subaru WRC cars, should put a race motor and chassis in their half a million pound carbon bodied restomod version of their famous Subaru race car? Insightful, I bet they haven't thought of that! I know we're all miserable, cynical fucks these days and yes we should be eating the rich, but we can still enjoy the idea of nice things even if we can't have them. Christ.

By the way there WAS a homologation series you could buy a WRX with a race motor and chassis and enter, it was called Group N. If you race it, it's a race car.

No I think Subaru should put out a showroom homologation edition. Obviously what makes it to the floor is based on the series, but a tube frame front and rear chassis, solid bushings, upgraded suspension, brakes, minimalistic flocked dash, race car stuff.

(I do race a WRX)

ili
Jul 26, 2003



That's a super fucken cool van. I'm neither a van bloke or an ev enthusiast but I'd drive the absolute bejeezus out of that thing in a heartbeat.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

um excuse me posted:

No I think Subaru should put out a showroom homologation edition. Obviously what makes it to the floor is based on the series, but a tube frame front and rear chassis, solid bushings, upgraded suspension, brakes, minimalistic flocked dash, race car stuff.

(I do race a WRX)

The most absolutely super basic spec car sold by a manuf (in the US) right now is the HPD Civic Si and it is still $55k, after that is the Global MX5 Cup at around $80k for the basic car plus the required sadev. Toyota 86 Cup is probably going to be another 15k+ on top of that.

For ballpark, arrive and drive in Global MX5 Cup is like $125-150k/yr base. Double that for something like TCR class. Double that again when you get into the faster stuff.

Those are pretty simple cars compared to something that is down the path of tube framed front and rear.

BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jun 24, 2022

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

um excuse me posted:

No I think Subaru should put out a showroom homologation edition. Obviously what makes it to the floor is based on the series, but a tube frame front and rear chassis, solid bushings, upgraded suspension, brakes, minimalistic flocked dash, race car stuff.


Uhhhh........

You know Subaru actually does do that?

Frankly questioning why Prodrive decided to create 25 bespoke literal WRC cars without a cage and why it costs 500K is really confusing. The transmission is 100K by itself, the proper suspension is 10K a corner to *start* with let alone the big rear end brakes. I dont give a poo poo that I'll never drive one (But hey I have driven a 22B so who knows) but I'm sure not all of them will be garage queens and this is not exactly that expensive for a full blown prodrive build

Also this is a calback to the Prodrive P1 as well as the 22B and more importantly the WRC97, the first Subaru WRCCar

CAT INTERCEPTOR fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jun 24, 2022

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Uhhhh........

You know Subaru actually does do that?

Frankly questioning why Prodrive decided to create 25 bespoke literal WRC cars without a cage and why it costs 500K is really confusing. The transmission is 100K by itself, the proper suspension is 10K a corner to *start* with let alone the big rear end brakes. I dont give a poo poo that I'll never drive one (But hey I have driven a 22B so who knows) but I'm sure not all of them will be garage queens and this is not exactly that expensive for a full blown prodrive build

Also this is a calback to the Prodrive P1 as well as the 22B and more importantly the WRC97, the first Subaru WRCCar



Are you sure you aren't Possum Bourne under a new assumed identity but the old life is seeping back?

(I say this in jest, Possum was an awesome bloke, RIP)

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


https://twitter.com/elan_nick/status/1540080324885069830?s=20&t=DlYXwYKRr7j9VWCMlhh6Tw

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer

That made me remember when kevbarlas had that car trailer with the van on hooked up to his, I want to say Fiat Punto?

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Kev! What a loving legend.

So you might want to watch this first bit of video with the little McMurtry EV fan car. It has apparently just done a 41.2 on the little hillclimb thing they do at Goodwood. It's like a tiny batmobile but actually real! (and very loving fast it seems!) The VW IDR did it in 39.9 and an F1 car in 41.6.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPDfsALNuhE

*edit: Lotus Emira GT4 sounds pretty sick too, I just assumed Lotus were pumping out EVs and SUVs now rather than hairy-chested race cars.

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jun 24, 2022

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

With a couple of very high profile yooootooobers using El Caminos as drag car or burnout cars the chances of getting a cheap El Camino to manual convert would be getting slimmer by the day

I think there's an Elco SS running in Lemons these days.

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


Elcos have boxed frames from the station wagon models so are ready for racing.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

BuckyDoneGun posted:

If you wanted one of the £560,000 Prodrive 22B restomods, you're poo poo out of luck as all 25 are spoken for.

https://www.prodrive.com/post/the-prodrive-p25-a-recreation-of-the-iconic-blue-subaru-impreza

Lots of carbon means under 1200kg, 400hp, 600Nm, 6 speed sequential "semi-auto".

https://twitter.com/PistonHeads/status/1539925376717258752

Can someone explain the single shift paddle on the RHS of the steering wheel, or is the left paddle just obscured by the steering wheel and the camera angle?

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk
They talk about it at 4.40:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACCDXhlhwW8&t=273s

Basically: one push/pull paddle so it's always in the same place regardless of where the wheel is. Also the launch control system shifts automatically up till 3rd.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
here's footage of it at goodwood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjTYChzYx_A

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Pretty sure my cheapo bmw has two push pull paddles for 1/10 the price :colbert:

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

BuckyDoneGun posted:

They talk about it at 4.40:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACCDXhlhwW8&t=273s

Basically: one push/pull paddle so it's always in the same place regardless of where the wheel is. Also the launch control system shifts automatically up till 3rd.

That's pretty loving cool that the hydraulic handbrake decouples the center differential. I had wondered for a long time if they were having to clutch in whenever they used it or how that all worked.

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

There's one of those about a mile from where I live. Also in perfect condition.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

MetaJew posted:

That's pretty loving cool that the hydraulic handbrake decouples the center differential. I had wondered for a long time if they were having to clutch in whenever they used it or how that all worked.

See also: GR Yaris, Hoonicorn.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


VideoGameVet posted:

There's one of those about a mile from where I live. Also in perfect condition.

HAHAHAH, the joke thread is over there -->

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

um excuse me posted:

No I think Subaru should put out a showroom homologation edition. Obviously what makes it to the floor is based on the series, but a tube frame front and rear chassis, solid bushings, upgraded suspension, brakes, minimalistic flocked dash, race car stuff.

(I do race a WRX)

So basically something that wouldn’t be road legal in most countries and even if it was probably wouldn’t sell very well.

Like the GR Yaris is probably the last ‘homologation special’ type car ever and toyota managed it only because they have toyota money and they are using the drivetrain in multiple cars.

Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007

This ridiculous thing was at the car show this morning:



And unless there are multiple of them, here’s an article about it:

https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/striking-1965-cobra-handcrafted-bronze-body-1234599608/amp/

It was even more ridiculous in person and easily stole the show from everything else.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I love it.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

In case anyone is wondering, you can buy 1x8' sections of 18 gauge phosphorus bronze for about $65

https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/32008310

bennyfactor
Nov 21, 2008

Hadlock posted:

In case anyone is wondering, you can buy 1x8' sections of 18 gauge phosphorus bronze for about $65

https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/32008310

.005 in is 36 or 40 gauge, not 18. Like the thickness of a heavy duty trash bag, but bronze.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

bennyfactor posted:

.005 in is 36 or 40 gauge, not 18. Like the thickness of a heavy duty trash bag, but bronze.

Yeah, the 0.05 inch stuff is $380. https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/32008401

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

AFewBricksShy posted:

This reminds me of the new Lancia Deltas that were made a couple of years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZagcSGReUo

If I had stupid money, I'd absolutely have one of those.

Was that the one that was on Top Gear/Grand Tour where the eccentric Italian guy admitted some of the buttons on the wheel did nothing, but "if all the buttons worked it would be an Audi :shrug:"?

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Was that the one that was on Top Gear/Grand Tour where the eccentric Italian guy admitted some of the buttons on the wheel did nothing, but "if all the buttons worked it would be an Audi :shrug:"?

Correct, S3E12

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

I want to put this on a skateboard :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OFtGntbS8U

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
AA is alive!

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

If you could manage the gearing, that would be a very light assist for a bike abet loud as hell.

Also drone engine.

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Large Testicles
Jun 1, 2020

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VideoGameVet posted:

If you could manage the gearing, that would be a very light assist for a bike abet loud as hell.

Also drone engine.

you'd obviously have to gear that for pretty much any use even drones cause 30k is way unusable prop speed for any blades i can think of

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