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This may be a stupid question and the answer is just "go to the local art supply store" but does anyone have good resources for getting quality drawing paper in index card size? I like keeping around 3 by 5 index cards for doodling but the typical ones are very cheap paper Short of cutting larger paper with a scissors I can't think of a good cheap option
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Zoben posted:Cool, I like the contrast/chiaroscuro on the clown. Did you do a texture in Photoshop in the background? Jesus Christ your stuff is sick as hell Booyah- posted:This may be a stupid question and the answer is just "go to the local art supply store" but does anyone have good resources for getting quality drawing paper in index card size? I like keeping around 3 by 5 index cards for doodling but the typical ones are very cheap paper that's gonna be the right answer without knowing what you have in mind for high quality, to go IRL and feel a bunch of different kinds of paper and see what you like. then you can have an idea of what weights and materials of paper you like if you already have larger paper you like you could get a papper cutter that would be much easier than scissors 
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May 15, 2022 22:52
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Booyah- posted:This may be a stupid question and the answer is just "go to the local art supply store" but does anyone have good resources for getting quality drawing paper in index card size? I like keeping around 3 by 5 index cards for doodling but the typical ones are very cheap paper something like this? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Strathmore-400-Series-Wire-Bound-Recycled-Sketch-Pad-3-5-x-5-100-Sheets/41241470
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Booyah- posted:This may be a stupid question and the answer is just "go to the local art supply store" but does anyone have good resources for getting quality drawing paper in index card size? I like keeping around 3 by 5 index cards for doodling but the typical ones are very cheap paper I buy a ton of decent watercolor paper in precut small sizes by buying postcard books. Strathmore has some great ones. You can order online from dickblick, Utrecht, amazon, etc. The hardest part it learning what kind of paper you actually like - cold press, hot pressed, gsm, etc. But once you figure that out finding pads of it gets really easy.
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May 15, 2022 23:09
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Honestly I just bought some really big pieces and I cut them to size when I use them. For little unimportant sketches though I'll do those on whatever.
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May 16, 2022 01:40
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Booyah- posted:This may be a stupid question and the answer is just "go to the local art supply store" but does anyone have good resources for getting quality drawing paper in index card size? I like keeping around 3 by 5 index cards for doodling but the typical ones are very cheap paper It is also a bit dependent on your location on the globe. More local paper is more affordable so before I go and suggest some fine French or Italian papers, where you at?
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May 16, 2022 15:22
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Thanks for all the advice, this has been super helpful. I'm in the states btwsilicone thrills posted:
I should learn about this then, I have a favorite paper that's not labeled or branded so trying to match it would be good
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May 17, 2022 08:16
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Booyah- posted:Thanks for all the advice, this has been super helpful. I'm in the states btw One of my favorite painters uses 40 lb Fabriano Cold Press. Take that for what you will. He manages to use a poo poo ton of acrylic and floetrol and it never warps ... well not noticeably anyways. He taught me that many years ago. At least if you are going for acrylic washes / glazing. http://www.michaelpukac.com/
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Booyah- posted:This may be a stupid question and the answer is just "go to the local art supply store" but does anyone have good resources for getting quality drawing paper in index card size? I like keeping around 3 by 5 index cards for doodling but the typical ones are very cheap paper https://legionpaper.com/artist-pad-collection I love Legion paper, they're all very high quality and there's a lot of variety in material and style. The Yupo line is treeless and incredible but difficult to work with, it's basically very thin sheets of paper-like plastic. 100% non-absorbant, stainproof, no grain at all so you can get flawlessly smooth paint on it. Everything else is 100% cotton. They sell 2.5"x3.75" mini pads (10 sheets) for $1.99/pad individually or less if you buy a sample pack of all of them, which sounds like what you want! Smaller than you're looking for but  it's $25.50 for 10 sheets each of 15 different papers.e: There's a breakdown of each paper type on this page: https://legionpaper.com/artist-pads/ and here's a review where someone went through each of them and wrote up their thoughts with example photos of how different drawing utensils looked on them. https://www.parkablogs.com/content/testing-11-paper-samples-legion-paper deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 01:19 on May 18, 2022 |
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May 18, 2022 00:51
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deep dish peat moss posted:and here's a review where someone went through each of them and wrote up their thoughts with example photos of how different drawing utensils looked on them.
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May 18, 2022 07:24
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I bought Richard Schmid's book Alla Prima and it had a cool picture of a chicken in it:  I really liked the looseness of it so I tried to copy it: 
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May 22, 2022 16:06
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Finished the last painting I'm doing for my class. Definitely going to do another one soon.  Hated trying to paint that crazy loving pot with all the handles. Gave up on it mostly.
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May 24, 2022 19:22
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Crain posted:Finished the last painting I'm doing for my class. Definitely going to do another one soon. Very nice! You might find this video about edges interesting (I noticed you're mostly using hard edges) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnhj5efzN_w
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Jun 3, 2022 18:00
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Claeaus posted:Very nice! You might find this video about edges interesting (I noticed you're mostly using hard edges) yeah, part of that is learning how to physically manipulate the paint itself. The acrylics dried super fast (I think the particular studio we were in was super dry because the ceramics studio was next door and kiln dried the whole area out). Playing with some airbrush medium to thin out paints to get shading and stuff worked some, but was hard to do with the whole object or on borders.
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Jun 3, 2022 18:22
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acrylics should really not be the go-to for painting pictures. even with the additives that are supposed to keep them wet longer they are just crap to work with. oils are a thousand times better.
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Jun 6, 2022 00:30
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speaking of which, a couple recent oil paintings of mine  
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Jun 6, 2022 00:44
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Well I had my final class and did some fixes for hard edges (or as best I could). Played around with coating the canvas with airbrush medium (by itself) first and giving it a minute before hitting it with paint thinned with AB Medium or just plain paint. I think it came out pretty good. Lots of smudging with my fingers tho.  And a close up of the apple cause I really liked how it came together: 
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Jun 7, 2022 17:40
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Heres another quick oil painting i jammed out in an hour today. you've heard of bigfoot, well here's "bigbutt."
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Jun 10, 2022 20:04
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That rules and so do the ciggie cowboys.
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I did a 16x20 paint pour last night and I'm mostly happy with it. I maybe could've used a darker purple for some contrast:
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Jun 21, 2022 23:43
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Not sure where else to ask this, but does anyone have a good place to buy uncut art frame molding? Most places online seem to only be either: Basic kits that look boring or mainly for posters or art supply wholesalers who you can't just buy from and minimum orders are like thousands of dollars.
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Jun 23, 2022 23:00
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I used to work for a frame shop and you could buy single like 8-12-16ft lengths of any specific frame from our local supplier but the key is learning whatever that is in your local area. I'm like 15 years out from this but I think we used Jayeness in seattle. One thing you might be able to do is call a local framing company and ask if you could buy frame moulding by the foot and piggy back on their order or just find out what their supplier is by browsing around and being nice and asking questions. I think we did that sort of thing at our spot every so often. Searching for local millwork shops can help too. Just google maps and click around the industrial district of your area.
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silicone thrills posted:I used to work for a frame shop and you could buy single like 8-12-16ft lengths of any specific frame from our local supplier but the key is learning whatever that is in your local area. I'm like 15 years out from this but I think we used Jayeness in seattle. This is all good advice. I still work in the framing business (sort of - it's not a retail framer), and unfortunately most suppliers to the frame shops I have been at will only do wholesale/b2b. I think your best bet really would be to go to local frame shops and ask - especially ask if they have things in stock they would want to sell for cheap. I have worked at places that give artists special discounts. Cultivating a relationship with a framer or two would be my advice. Most framers have at least a few sticks of moulding they would love to sell off.
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HungryMedusa posted:I have worked at places that give artists special discounts. Cultivating a relationship with a framer or two would be my advice. Most framers have at least a few sticks of moulding they would love to sell off. Yep I forgot about this but we did this too and did tax exempt sales to people with a business license. I remember having to enter ITN codes in now.
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Been working more consistently lately so i've got a few things to share :3 Probably need 1 more small detail session on this one but its close - saw some cute lil duckies at a near by park  About to varnish this one - Crow from my back yard  This one I just got pretty close to tying up last night - need to futz with the dry grass some more but super happy with the crow itself.  Selling through my existing inventory and its really puffing me up. Also started making time lapse videos on insta and TikTok - Probably gonna tie the time lapses into my listing on etsy. Im definitely feeling continual improvement. There was a while where I felt like I was stagnating and im really happy.
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silicone thrills posted:Been working more consistently lately so i've got a few things to share :3 These are really cool - you get a lot of great detail into small canvases!
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silicone thrills posted:I used to work for a frame shop and you could buy single like 8-12-16ft lengths of any specific frame from our local supplier but the key is learning whatever that is in your local area. I'm like 15 years out from this but I think we used Jayeness in seattle. HungryMedusa posted:This is all good advice. I still work in the framing business (sort of - it's not a retail framer), and unfortunately most suppliers to the frame shops I have been at will only do wholesale/b2b. This was really helpful. I went into old town here and found a independent framing shop (and rug store, and art gallery, and carpet cleaning service, 60% off everything, lol) and asked the old guy there about this. I told him what I was up to (trying to frame 5 pieces to submit to an open call for submissions, my first one) and he was very excited for me, and said he loved my stuff. He took me to his basement full of random empty frames and molding and said to have at it and ignore the price stickers as he offered to do all 5 for $250 flat (matboard and glass included). I don't even care if that's ultimately crazy profit on his part because that's the cost that Michael's and a couple other stores quoted for one 8x10 piece for boring as gently caress framing. I put two aside that I really liked but couldn't decide on the rest so he said to come back with the other pieces and "we play around, like trying on suits". He did also say he could sell me some lengths of raw molding but honestly I don't have the space or tools to work with it in right now anyway.
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Speaking as someone that’s dabbled with making my own frames… 5 custom frames for $250 is a loving steal
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Crain posted:This was really helpful. I went into old town here and found a independent framing shop (and rug store, and art gallery, and carpet cleaning service, 60% off everything, lol) and asked the old guy there about this. That's so rad! And an incredible deal. In my experience local frame store folks really get into it for the love of being around art and interacting with artists and your experience reinforces mine :3 HungryMedusa posted:These are really cool - you get a lot of great detail into small canvases! Thank you! I figure working small is one of my better bets to keep selling things easily and idk a couple of years ago I got sucked in a blick sale and bought like 24 8x10 canvases and another 20 something 9x12s so I figure ill burn through them then work up through my 14x18s and 16x20s once I get my shipping game locked down.
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dupersaurus posted:Speaking as someone that’s dabbled with making my own frames… 5 custom frames for $250 is a loving steal Well, specifically he meant already made, empty frames that he had in his stock room. But they all looked really good. When I get the first two on Tuesday I'll post a picture of what they look like. silicone thrills posted:That's so rad! And an incredible deal. In my experience local frame store folks really get into it for the love of being around art and interacting with artists and your experience reinforces mine :3 Yeah he was super nice and it really made me feel good about submitting stuff. I've only ever shown stuff to friends and family (and a few here) and while they generally get positive remarks you always wonder what a total stranger would think. silicone thrills posted:Thank you! I figure working small is one of my better bets to keep selling things easily and idk a couple of years ago I got sucked in a blick sale and bought like 24 8x10 canvases and another 20 something 9x12s so I figure ill burn through them then work up through my 14x18s and 16x20s once I get my shipping game locked down. At least 8x10 isn't really that small (my first 6 or so were all 3x8" which is making framing them a bitch), but my art professor from the class said that an early "trap" is thinking that smaller is easier. Bigger is actually easier to put details into, which smaller pieces require a good eye for simplifying detail and can be hard to get a composition going. That said: lol you do not have that problem. I love the crow on the dry grass painting.
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Anyone have any recommendations for embossing art? I have a friend who does linocuts, so I have access to a press roller, but am weighing what approach would be quickest for creating a template for that. I'm not looking at more than one layer of indentation, and am assuming some sort of 3d printer product may do the job... but those are expensive and I'm not sure if they can endure the press. Ideally, the method would involve making the art, scanning, creating a 'embossed' layer and making the press-bit from that.
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a 3d printer would probably be the "least" work but you're likely to still need to do some sanding or finish work unless you can use a resin printer. There are different materials that would surely survive a printing press as long as it's not a ginormous piece. linocuts and woodcuts are ok but you could also consider etching where you print a mask on a sheet of metal (copper) and dissolve some of rest to create raised letters. Or of course cutting by hand
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The first two frames came in.   Super happy with them. I picked out the other three frames today and I cannot wait. Funny framing talk while the dude was working on finalizing the frames: He was saying that art framing "it's a mob system. There's like...3-4 families that control the whole US. Doesn't matter where you go, it's ultimately from one of those 4 families. So I can't even sell you molding if I wanted. You could offer me $10k and if the families found out I'm blacklisted." Lol sure, dude just doesn't wanna sell his molding to avoid losing out, which is fine since it's a good deal.
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just made my first print. looking for some advice. What I would like to do is make these prints then add color with watercolor. is there an ink made specifically for printmaking that will hold up to this? The ones they have at the store all say they're water soluble. This print was made with oil paint thinned with a bit of galkyd lite and a bit of thinner.
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Doctor Dogballs posted:just made my first print. looking for some advice. Yup there are a bunch of oil-based relief ink, though you might need to go online. Cranfield is what I usually use, and they have one that can be cleaned with soap and water. Does your local store have the speedball fabric ink? I think those are water-safe too.
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I have some speedball oil based relief ink and it makes pretty good looking prints that you could watercolor over.
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Took a break from all the birds and decided to do some transportation and sunset. Little bigger here at 9x12. Also switched up to a thinner medium. The smell from liquin Impasto was just murdering my brain. Also a variation from the same photoset and ferry. Just like 20 min earlier  Having fun getting better at waves. I used to hate doing things like boats but I'm really feeling goof about these. I actually found them quite exciting as they came together.
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Doctor Dogballs posted:just made my first print. looking for some advice. If you're dead-set on using oil paint as a block print medium, check this stuff out:  Basically take 1 part oil paint and 1 part that stuff, and you've got a relatively consistent block print medium with all the benefits you'd expect of your favourite oil paints (i.e., mainly in terms of pigment-specific opacities and staining characteristics.) Worth considering on that line of thinking would be some cobalt siccative to help quicken your drying time as well, or you could be waiting days or even weeks to move on to the watercolour step. That being said, if you're dead-set on colouring your prints with watercolour, oil medium might not be the way to go. You run the risk of the oil medium itself staining your paper of choice in a manner similar to a slow gradual grease stain around the print impression that might take weeks to appear, slowly ruining your hard-earned effort in the long run, especially if you're using a random oil paint rather than a specifically formulated oil-based printing ink. And oil-stained paper repels water, so your watercolour venture could be less than satisfactory if you wait too long to colour, or the colours might get all hosed up down the road anyway depending on which happens first; the colouring or the oil seepage. I've seen it happen. There might be a way to prepare the paper in advance, but I don't know what that would be that wouldn't also be potentially detrimental to the actual ink transfer step. Oil based printing is a huge pain in the rear end from a clean-up perspective though, so if you want to avoid contaminating your sink with all sorts of toxic thinners just to clean your brayer, I would strongly urge you to look into water based inks as a matter of practicality. I don't recall the water-based printing inks I used being prone to gouache-like re-wetting, so I'll go out on a limb and say you'd "probably" be fine with a water-based printing ink, provided you give it adequate time to dry (or bake the print in the oven at a low temperature to help ensure dryness before moving to the watercolour step.) Alternatively, depending on the complexity of the colours you intend to use, it might be worth looking into making reduction/suicide prints. First print is the background colour, then carve a little bit from the block, print that as the next colour, carve a little bit more from the block, then print that, which could be your black final outline or whatever you want. It's quite a nifty variation on standard block printing that can accomplish what you're going for, albeit with more steps involved. Regarding material selection, depending on how large of a population area you live and how good/poor the material selection is at your local art supply store, I would suggest looking at the selection of online stores like Jackson's Art, Blick, or Delta Art, and buying specifically what you want to use, rather than being beholden to what's available down the road. When I picked up block printing, my local art store had poo poo for selection, so I ended up ordering everything from Jackson's Art, and started specifically using Schmincke's water soluble ink. It's actually great stuff, with colours exceptionally well-geared towards colour mixing. If it starts to dry on the palette, just spray it with a water mister and it's back to its normal tacky, gummy consistency. Repeat as necessary. I hope this helps. XYZAB fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Aug 1, 2022 |
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Double dipping this from the journalling thread but I made the stupid imgur links and it is trad art :-)              
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