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Is a commons VONC even possible anymore? I thought that the fixed term parliament act was over turned so Emperor Boris had as long as he liked in power?
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Yinlock posted:The former has actual material concerns, and the latter has She has actual material concerns. They just happen to be electro shock therapy
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notaspy posted:Is a commons VONC even possible anymore? I thought that the fixed term parliament act was over turned so Emperor Boris had as long as he liked in power? Sure it is, but it’ll never happen because it’d be Tory MPs voting for an election a fair number of them will lose. Noxville fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Jun 24, 2022 |
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Jun 24, 2022 09:15
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I'd like to see Boris wriggle his way out of this one !!
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Jun 24, 2022 09:17
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https://twitter.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1540244773109469189the sex ghost posted:I'd like to see Boris wriggle his way out of this one !! Nevertheless...
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Jun 24, 2022 09:22
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the sex ghost posted:I'd like to see Boris wriggle his way out of this one !! Like thumbing a plastic bin bag full of offal and custard through a storm drain. The "Teflon" man slips by once more
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notaspy posted:Is a commons VONC even possible anymore? I thought that the fixed term parliament act was over turned so Emperor Boris had as long as he liked in power? Commons VONC still can result in a new election if no-one else has the confidence of the house. It's just not the only way to call a early election anymore, when under FTPA it was. Frankly whether Boris goes or stays matters little at the moment for the utter exhaustion of the Tories and their refusal to do anything to help the country.
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Jun 24, 2022 09:22
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Honestly the Tories keeping Boris on in their party VONC was the worst choice they could have made because he’s invincible for a year and I can’t see him ever voluntarily stepping down in disgrace and he’s gonna be dragging them down for the next 10 months or however long it is until a vote can be forced again. And the ones who called the VONC made a huge mistake calling it before these by-elections, would have done much better in the wake of this. Wakefield was always gonna go back to Labour given the conditions that flipped it (the Brexit election) no longer apply and it’s been Labour for as long as I’ve been alive. That plus the way the public use by-elections to heap shame on incumbents, and that the Tory they did on one occasion choose to elect turned out to be a nonce.
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Jun 24, 2022 09:24
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https://twitter.com/ionewells/status/1540225916353249280
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"because of me"
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Noxville posted:Sure it is, but it’ll never happen because it’d be Tory MPs voting for an election a fair number of them will lose. This is also in reply to Nothingtoseehere but I don't know how to add him while on mobile. VONCing Boris doesn't lead directly to an election as there is a period of time, or there was under the no defunct FTPA, for a new government to form. I agree that it will as the rebel half of the Tory party won't work with the rest of the house to form a new government and even if they did what would be their mandate? Overturn all the regressive poo poo? Lol. And if they did work with the rest of the house I would fully expect Keith to be happy being a junior minister with all the sensibles agreeing as it puts him in the best position to become PM at the next election. I was more wondering in theory if it could happen.
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Jun 24, 2022 09:34
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Noxville posted:Honestly the Tories keeping Boris on in their party VONC was the worst choice they could have made because he’s invincible for a year and I can’t see him ever voluntarily stepping down in disgrace and he’s gonna be dragging them down for the next 10 months or however long it is until a vote can be forced again. And the ones who called the VONC made a huge mistake calling it before these by-elections, would have done much better in the wake of this.
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Jun 24, 2022 09:46
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I dare you to find an interview or even him spotted on day 1 of bad news for the tories. He always hides.
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Noxville posted:Honestly the Tories keeping Boris on in their party VONC was the worst choice they could have made because he’s invincible for a year and I can’t see him ever voluntarily stepping down in disgrace and he’s gonna be dragging them down for the next 10 months or however long it is until a vote can be forced again. And the ones who called the VONC made a huge mistake calling it before these by-elections, would have done much better in the wake of this. I remember it being theorised that the VONC was actually instigated by Johnson's supporters so it would go off before his opponents had time to get all their ducks in a row and guarantee they had the numbers.
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Starting to wonder if the ray of political light we're looking for is nothing to do with parties at all but the rivival of the unions. Lot's of workers feeling emboldened by RMT this week.
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Jun 24, 2022 10:46
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Electoralism is dead and big bald men in flat caps threw it in the river.
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Guavanaut posted:Electoralism is dead and big bald men in flat caps threw it in the river. https://twitter.com/krishgm/status/1540236554337243136
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Jun 24, 2022 10:59
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Could it be...journos start to realise that "I take full responsibility ' is just a vapid thought-terminating cliché ?
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Back to Back Blows for Johnson: is End Coming for Head of UK?
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Jun 24, 2022 11:05
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"morning swim in Rwanda" is not a euphemism then?
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Failed Imagineer posted:Could it be...journos start to realise that "I take full responsibility ' is just a vapid thought-terminating cliché ?
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https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1540244745875759104?s=20&t=C2g-CIyQqwmS8gC9bvcjYA If someone like Rentoul is saying this, than it's clear that knives are still out for Starmer
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Kevino07 posted:https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1540244745875759104?s=20&t=C2g-CIyQqwmS8gC9bvcjYA John thinks Tony Blair is the only hope.
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Failed Imagineer posted:"morning swim in Rwanda" is not a euphemism then? The lesser-known sequel to Holiday in Cambodia.
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Zalakwe posted:Starting to wonder if the ray of political light we're looking for is nothing to do with parties at all but the rivival of the unions. it's moments like this when things break through just for a tiny second that you realise just how hard and how precariously capital is working behind the scenes to keep a lid on the whole thing
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Kevino07 posted:https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1540244745875759104?s=20&t=C2g-CIyQqwmS8gC9bvcjYA i mean it was actually a good result for keith for once, so this is strong stephen kinnock in 2017 vibe tbh
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:The lesser-known sequel to Holiday in Cambodia. Don't forget to
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Rustybear posted:it's moments like this when things break through just for a tiny second that you realise just how hard and how precariously capital is working behind the scenes to keep a lid on the whole thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaXHUI6Gl1Q
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https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1540247842798829570?s=20&t=if0wxQ3brdutDvqGHjVCXA "Keith is bad because I'm still living in a delusional world" All the things to take issue with and you pick the one that isn't true, which is that these results likely would result in PM Keith in some form. Edit: I'm just ignoring Starmer being poo poo for the day and focusing on what is important – cracking up at the Tories stumbling all over each other to make the situation worse.
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bustin keaton posted:https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1540247842798829570?s=20&t=if0wxQ3brdutDvqGHjVCXA Labour regaining the Red Wall would only return us to 2017 status quo. Tories swinging Lib Dem as well would only return us to 2010. It's going to take more than that to extract the Tories from Downing Street, and Starmer isn't offering it.
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it would be nice if both Boris and Keith got booted i don't have much hope that we'd get anyone better but it's the least that needs to be done to make politics in the UK worth bothering with
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PM Jacob Rees Mogg vs LOTO Lisa Nandy
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Ah, CSPAM posters https://i.imgur.com/mSfmE22.mp4 Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Jun 24, 2022 |
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Barry Foster posted:[timg]/fOLcwlp.mp4[/timg] Hell yeah
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loving gently caress loving BBCODE
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bustin keaton posted:https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1540247842798829570?s=20&t=if0wxQ3brdutDvqGHjVCXA i fuckin hate keith but if your immediate response to labour gaining a seat at a byelection for the first time in ten years and by double digits points is 'this is bad for keir' then you might have other motives than simply commenting on the situation
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