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Still looking for recommendations for light turn-based survival games if anyone has any. Already beat Neo Scavenger a couple of times, and I tried the Card Survival thing someone recommended but couldn't get over the terrible UI. Also, anything notable worth picking up in the current Steam sale? The Survival tag mingling with 'Survival Horror' is making it hard to browse the list.
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# ? Jun 24, 2022 06:27 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 09:29 |
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Don't know about "light" but there's always unreal world. Current version is $8 on steam, previous version is free from the author http://www.unrealworld.fi/urw_downloads.html
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# ? Jun 24, 2022 10:06 |
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RandomBlue posted:The game also has solo vs. group talent trees and last I heard you can't respec so either you use solo talents to optimize your solo play and suck in a group (those talents get disabled when playing with others IIRC) or you have a group char that sucks when solo. My issue with it is that once you maxed your bow combat skills (no solo skills needed), 95% of the missions were 1) chop a couple trees, kill a couple animals, make a level 2/3? bow & armor 2) make a bunch of bone arrows and go finish the mission. Especially with sneaking headshots, you can just waltz around and wreck everything. Bears, polar bears, elephants, whatever. And then the other 5% of the missions required higher level equipment that took insane exponential effort to build that just made everything a massive chore. Add in a super boring static world populated with lovely purchased assets and you've got a crappy, crappy game.
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# ? Jun 24, 2022 12:22 |
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oh rad they added space elephants to the space bears and space wolves??
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# ? Jun 24, 2022 13:34 |
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Flesh Forge posted:oh rad they added space elephants to the space bears and space wolves?? they added several new space earth animals, yes
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# ? Jun 24, 2022 16:10 |
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RandomBlue posted:they added several new space earth animals, yes fuckin invasive species the white haired grabblesnout of tarsis IV was a beautiful, if misunderstood, creature!
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# ? Jun 24, 2022 16:26 |
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I think there's Space Gators on the new world map too, but I haven't tried it out yet.
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# ? Jun 24, 2022 18:56 |
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mrmcd posted:I think there's Space Gators on the new world map too, but I haven't tried it out yet. And kamado dragons
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 15:09 |
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 04:33 |
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hahaha perfect!
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 04:37 |
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Is Icarus good yet?
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 09:06 |
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computer_ posted:Is Icarus good yet? Depends on what you like. I wouldn't say it's "done" but there's enough to keep me interested anyway. The devs keep adding content and pushing weekly fixes, but they still don't have online matchmaking so you can only play with your steam friends. There's 4-6 biomes but they can be a slog to unlock for new players. There's also outposts that are basically permanent bases for creative building. Solo play is either punishing or a challenge depending on your perspective. I'd say the biggest pros: Beautiful scenery. Interesting model of having a week -> month long mission your friends can work on asynchronously. Huge world map to explore. Biggest cons: Still has an EA jank and feel, rough edges, bugs and typos, etc. This is despite not technically being EA. Some of the missions are really tedious if you're trying to speedrun the mission unlock tree. Similarly, teching up to the high tiers from scratch every mission is also tedious if you're trying to move through missions quickly. Animal spawns are very repetitive and stupid, and quickly go from being scary at low levels to an unfun annoyance, especially if you build your base in the wrong place and the game just drip spawns infinite bears to harass and gank you. mrmcd fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Jun 27, 2022 |
# ? Jun 27, 2022 14:35 |
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mrmcd posted:Similarly, teching up to the high tiers from scratch every mission is also tedious if you're trying to move through missions quickly. This is what really got me, beautiful game with some relaxing scenery but after starting my 4th mission I quickly realized, I've done this exact same thing already and I'm going to keep doing it every single mission, why am I spending my free time on this? It was novel a few times but that wears off quick. I think the concept of having to rebuild constantly is very flawed for anyone who values their time, even more so than it is for survival crafting games in general.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 16:37 |
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this is so good lmao
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 21:13 |
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So Icarus is currently in the middle of a 2+ hour server outage, and because of how the game works, if you were playing when they died, you cannot quit or leave the game at all otherwise you'll lose all progress from the point the servers were last alive. luv2be held hostage by a video game at 12:17 am. edit: lol the game just crashed there's 3 hours wasted. mrmcd fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Jul 1, 2022 |
# ? Jul 1, 2022 05:17 |
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Went ahead asked Steam for a refund explaining the outage. A petty first world problem but if you can't ship a functional product and your game is so fragile it holds all your players hostage....
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 05:34 |
Isn't Icarus a PvE game? Why do they really care if there is desynch between server and local memory? From what I've heard the game is basically Deep Rock Galactic for nerds so you could just local host the saves temporarily. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Jul 1, 2022 |
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 13:37 |
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CuddleCryptid posted:From what I've heard the game is basically Deep Rock Galactic for nerds so you could just local host the saves temporarily. Probably the first I've heard this game being described as "basically DRG", is it not just a co-op survival game?
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 13:41 |
explosivo posted:Probably the first I've heard this game being described as "basically DRG", is it not just a co-op survival game? Checking back to confirm, the store page says its a session based game with a timer where you drop in, gather resources and punch bears, and then jet back out again. I know people have been talking about building poo poo shacks and having bears attack them but I assumed that was just the "build a base" mode, is that inaccurate?
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 13:46 |
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CuddleCryptid posted:Checking back to confirm, the store page says its a session based game with a timer where you drop in, gather resources and punch bears, and then jet back out again. I know people have been talking about building poo poo shacks and having bears attack them but I assumed that was just the "build a base" mode, is that inaccurate? Oh I have no idea, I remembered hearing about the session based thing but figured that just meant you're playing on servers that reset every couple days or something like that. I'm sure someone who actually played the game can provide more insight since I just watched someone stream it for an hour or so when it launched.
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 13:48 |
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CuddleCryptid posted:Checking back to confirm, the store page says its a session based game with a timer where you drop in, gather resources and punch bears, and then jet back out again. I know people have been talking about building poo poo shacks and having bears attack them but I assumed that was just the "build a base" mode, is that inaccurate? When you start a game, the server is hosted on your local machine (the first person to start the game) and then steam friends can join for co-op. However, the game saves aren't stored locally. Every 60s it automatically sends the world state to their servers. If you quit or crash, it loads the last world state from their backend when you restart. If the host quits, someone else that previously the game can host by loading the world state from the backends, and hosting the game on their computer. Same thing if the host is offline and another player wants to start playing the shared save file. The problem is if their backend save servers hard crash and eat poo poo for 5-7 hours like they did last night, nobody can start a game, and if you're in a game, you can't quit or finish a mission. If you do (or your game crashes ... Which also happens a lot because it's basically a beta game sold as a finished one) then you lose all your progress after the moment their servers died. There's not really any similarities to DRG except they both have drop pods. DRG is a co-op shooter game where a mission lasts ~20 minutes. Icarus is a survival game where a mission lasts somewhere between 2 hours and 7 days depending on the mission and how ocd you want to be about mining every last scrap of exotics. Icarus also isn't procedural like DRG.
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 14:02 |
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Wow I’m glad I didn’t buy into to the Icarus hype. I noticed that about a week after release I didn’t see much about it any more. Sounds like it still needs a lot of work. Rocketwerks sure has some strange ideas about how save games should work. Stationeers is weird about it too. Like the autosave is global so if you have multiple worlds you have to be careful to always manually save under a different name before switching because the autosave in the new world will overwrite the autosave from the previous world you played. I mean the game does give the usual warning about losing unsaved progress when exiting but some people might think the autosave took care of it.
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 14:48 |
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CuddleCryptid posted:Isn't Icarus a PvE game? Why do they really care if there is desynch between server and local memory? imo they are courting a particular kind of gamer who wants the ~hard core~ ~full looting~ ~high risk high reward~ MMO PVP experience but doesn't actually want pvp
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 16:01 |
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I've never had any technical issues playing ~80 hours of Icarus but their backend servers going down like that is hilarious. My character is presumably still sitting in a now-legacy run or very much permadead because I think the game deletes your character under very specific circumstances.Flesh Forge posted:imo they are courting a particular kind of gamer who wants the ~hard core~ ~full looting~ ~high risk high reward~ MMO PVP experience but doesn't actually want pvp Maybe, but I was attracted to it originally because they promised to try and maintain that 'early stage in a survival craft where everything is hard and dangerous' which uh, yeah, didn't happen. They pushed it out a bit into the mid-game stages but once you understand the mechanics of the game it's incredibly easy to zero out all that risk in very short order.
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 16:44 |
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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1149460/view/3325361214989198998quote:We mentioned in a previous announcement that ICARUS is shifting towards a decentralized storage of save data. To achieve this goal, we are planning on removing the reliance of storing save data on our servers. We have been planning this change for some time - but due to recent issues with server outages, we have decided to turn our focus towards getting the new system into player hands sooner. Lmao. "poo poo yeah I guess we better do that before we hold people's characters hostage again."
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 16:51 |
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Remember a little while back when the blinked the first time and restored eighty thousand permadead characters lol
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 17:14 |
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CuddleCryptid posted:Isn't Icarus a PvE game? Why do they really care if there is desynch between server and local memory? They are very different games, principally that Deep Rock Galactic is fun.
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# ? Jul 1, 2022 23:15 |
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I just picked up Necesse because I put far too many hours into Rimworld, so combining that with a survival game seems like something that was designed specifically to honey trap me. Is there anything I should know before I run wild with it?
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 13:23 |
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Going to the edge of the map lets you move to another tile on the overworld, which is how you access different biomes. In general though I think there aren’t any big gotchas/things to miss.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 14:08 |
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I started playing Project Zomboid, does anyone know if you can aim while sneaking and if it still counts as sneaking? Sometimes I like to aim to look further ahead while I'm sneaking but it feels like I get spotted more easily but I'm not sure.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 17:59 |
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I think it’s a smaller amount of noise/visibility if you’re sneaking in general but you’ll still be noticed if you’re aiming and moving.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 18:06 |
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duffmensch posted:I think it’s a smaller amount of noise/visibility if you’re sneaking in general but you’ll still be noticed if you’re aiming and moving. Thanks, guess I'll just play zoomed out so I can see further without endangering myself.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 18:10 |
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Is there any problem if I use a charcoal BBQ inside a house in Project Zomboid? Will it cause smoke or guaranteed fire?
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 02:09 |
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Big Scary Owl posted:Is there any problem if I use a charcoal BBQ inside a house in Project Zomboid? Will it cause smoke or guaranteed fire? Unless it's been changed, you can safely use a barbecue indoors.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 02:26 |
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Yeah, cooking stuff indoors doesn't matter. Last time I played I even used a big metal pot to cook stews (with copious amounts of marinara sauce, raw chicken, veggies and all sorts. Also did I mention lots of marinara sauce? ) using the microwave, and it didn't cause any issues - either to my health or the microwave! hahah
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 02:33 |
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Big Scary Owl posted:Is there any problem if I use a charcoal BBQ inside a house in Project Zomboid? Will it cause smoke or guaranteed fire? Just don’t use a KFC scented log.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 02:51 |
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Big Scary Owl posted:Is there any problem if I use a charcoal BBQ inside a house in Project Zomboid? Will it cause smoke or guaranteed fire? Just make sure that it doesn’t burn or else things will get bad in a hurry. I think it’s just generators that are harmful to use inside (or driving a truck in the mall isn’t enough to poison you).
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 03:09 |
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duffmensch posted:Just make sure that it doesn’t burn or else things will get bad in a hurry. I think it’s just generators that are harmful to use inside (or driving a truck in the mall isn’t enough to poison you). Ah poo poo, I knew I was forgetting something but I couldn't remember for the life of me. I thought I already had picked up a generator that I had found but I forgot . I will have to figure out how to use it though.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 03:50 |
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If you accidentally leave a heat source on (other than antique stove and maybe fireplace iirc), I think there are chances it’ll set a local fire. Doing an hour on the stove won’t do it, it’s more like 2+.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 05:24 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 09:29 |
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Wow I can't hit a single shot with my weapons. I thought they were supposed to help!
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