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Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

good job on the pattern recognition!


id definitely look more into the ecohealth alliance connections than his last name (?) that isn't exactly rare. at least he's not literally "jeffery epstein" like this poor sucker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaQSloewxZw

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you know I had always heard about that specific incident as being massively botched by the FSB because no matter how you cut it, 170 dead hostages is a lot, but I don't know if a conventional approach (send guys with guns in to shoot the terrorists) would really have ended with less civilian casualties.

gotta give it to fentanyl on that one

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010

Delta-Wye posted:

good job on the pattern recognition!


id definitely look more into the ecohealth alliance connections than his last name (?) that isn't exactly rare. at least he's not literally "jeffery epstein" like this poor sucker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaQSloewxZw

Leaving aside the very poor taste crayon scrawlings It's actually a very level headed study I found linked by a paper published by this thread's favorite lab leak proponent. They didn't even do any gain of function stuff in that one, just sequenced the first bat coronavirus that binds to human receptors. I'm also not sure what caused Dr. Rossana Segreto3851004's shift in tack from being all in on Wuhan Leak in 2020 to USAMRIID leak in 2022. If she is so sure vaping sickness was actually a proto-SARS 2 epidemic, wouldn't that be pretty easy to follow up by interviewing close contacts of patients? Cause it's, you know... an epidemic?

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



new uvalde coverup news

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1539688437472706560

red19fire
May 26, 2010

HiroProtagonist posted:

*hands shaking as one ties a knot in my dollar tree extension cord and the other grasping the shotgun in a reverse clamp grip so that my toe jerk will fire it directly into my chest as soon as my enormous arm strength fails and releases the slack i was using to hold myself up while tying a loose knot*

You guys, he clearly stood on a block of ice with the noose around his neck, then shot himself. Entirely plausible.:eng101:

My expert witness fee is $10 mil.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



i bet if you were a serial killer the best way to do it without ever getting caught would be to look up a list of people with clinton associations and make sure to make the murder scene look like a really lovely attempt at making it look like a suicide or accident

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
i am not having suicidal feelings










font is Roboto if you want to play along. it's surprisingly hard to get an exact fit; i mean both of these are likely wrong guesses, but the second one is definitely not correct as the text after the redaction is very slightly misaligned. that first one fits really well though, perfect alignment :tinfoil:

the other line of red text was just for proofing the font and font size alignment

multistability
Feb 15, 2014

Psycho Society posted:

Leaving aside the very poor taste crayon scrawlings It's actually a very level headed study I found linked by a paper published by this thread's favorite lab leak proponent. They didn't even do any gain of function stuff in that one, just sequenced the first bat coronavirus that binds to human receptors. I'm also not sure what caused Dr. Rossana Segreto3851004's shift in tack from being all in on Wuhan Leak in 2020 to USAMRIID leak in 2022. If she is so sure vaping sickness was actually a proto-SARS 2 epidemic, wouldn't that be pretty easy to follow up by interviewing close contacts of patients? Cause it's, you know... an epidemic?

Actually the easiest way to work out if covid was the causative agent of the EVALI epidemic would be to test patient samples for the presence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies but the US govt refuses to let them be tested for... I'm sure 100% above board reasons. I also think she changed tack because the Wuhan lab leak theory is very clearly the definition of "modified limited hangout", even Jeffrey Sachs, the head of the Lancet Commission on COVID-19, is now openly admitting that it is US biotechnology that led to the creation of SARS-CoV-2

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



The problem with early-spread theories is that they're badly underestimating covid and its high r0. We know how quickly it tears through an unprotected population. If vape lung really was COVID-19, the US would have been overwhelmed within months. Wild-type could not have been present in the US long before December 2019.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1539832128313114626?s=20&t=dwrTT0Fx5z4JeY-VDmMBWw

multistability
Feb 15, 2014

Chamale posted:

The problem with early-spread theories is that they're badly underestimating covid and its high r0. We know how quickly it tears through an unprotected population. If vape lung really was COVID-19, the US would have been overwhelmed within months. Wild-type could not have been present in the US long before December 2019.

The strain of SARS-CoV-2 circulating in the USA very early on in the pandemic (WA1) is known to be more closely related to founder variants than the lineage circulating in Wuhan, and so more closely linked phylogenetically to the most ancestral strain of SARS-CoV-2

https://twitter.com/Rossana38510044/status/1514317474359136257?t=BFlbW5yEpShSV4M1GO6vCg&s=19

https://twitter.com/Daoyu15/status/1530792664903217153?t=jYR0eFkENLEzwLtWIEaQCw&s=19

https://twitter.com/Daoyu15/status/1522030403732746241?t=Lmr2bP4cnR9MEutwXGdHAQ&s=19

There is a study which shows a 2% seroprevalence of covid antibodies in USA by December 2019

https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/researchers-suggest-covid19-circulated-in-united-states-by-december-2019-2

It is also known that lineage A associated with the USA is less pathogenic than lineage B associated with Wuhan and so it's possible that covid had been transmitting cryptically for months (or misidentified as eg EVALI) before being picked up by the testing which only began in March 2020

https://twitter.com/Rossana38510044/status/1525728807319228416?t=gSbLze_mlnAUdR-hczzUTA&s=19

https://twitter.com/Rossana38510044/status/1526794827324694528?t=F1ZwjBHgOFpcH_6ymCe4Og&s=19

https://twitter.com/Rossana38510044/status/1512764287315591171?t=z3QKpAjZSrRGZWbeqYnYuw&s=19

It's possible that China only picked up covid earlier than the USA because China actually tests for SARS whereas USA doesn't

https://twitter.com/innominata_/status/1517155048114991105?t=N_BOnmIAFF56mSSQkAbkzQ&s=19

We also know that the 2019-2020 flu season in America started earlier than usual in Maryland (where Ft. Detrick is based) and that many covid cases were initially misidentified as flu cases

https://twitter.com/SixandLaura/status/1412936420281536515?t=gua131-zt_jSHK11iuS1sg&s=19

https://twitter.com/Rossana38510044/status/1490358890361507840?t=biGo2niN2grvbJqS3Xjy_w&s=19

https://twitter.com/Rossana38510044/status/1512772017371729929?t=mTgVVoHW9H4Mu2_5agdPXw&s=19

The only way to know for certain I guess is if the USA allows access to deleted databases (incl a University of Washington Wastewater BioProject) which could prove or disprove the idea that covid antibodies are to be found in the USA a lot earlier than we are being told

https://twitter.com/user3425664/status/1514337070239657994?t=4gsRGZ5DNZyvOkrQXQv4AQ&s=19

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Chamale posted:

The problem with early-spread theories is that they're badly underestimating covid and its high r0. We know how quickly it tears through an unprotected population. If vape lung really was COVID-19, the US would have been overwhelmed within months. Wild-type could not have been present in the US long before December 2019.

it's not likely that wild type was circulating long before december 2019, but that's not a very strong refutation of early spread theories, considering how rapidly we know covid-19 evolves. look at the timeline this way:

quote:

06 July 2019: Jeffrey Epstein arrested

11 July 2019: "Respiratory outbreak" reported at nursing home located around 60 miles away from Ft. Detrick

August 2019—September 2019: EVALI epidemic

August 2019—December 2019: USAMRIID at Ft. Detrick shut down due to "safety issues"

10 August 2019: Epstein murdered in prison

September 2019: Bill Gates, Harvard, MIT linked to Epstein

18 October 2019: Event 201, a "high-level pandemic exercise" simulating "an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus", takes place

18 October 2019—27 October 2019: 2019 World Military Games takes place in Wuhan, China

November 2019: First people in Wuhan hospitalised with COVID-19, according to US intelligence report

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

she won't even serve a fraction of that :v:

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

smarxist posted:

she won't even serve a fraction of that :v:

yeah I give it a year at best before Steph Jail gets to her

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

I figure if the powers that be were going to take her out, they would have done it already. They must have some kind of confidence that she's content to be alive and isn't going to try to cut a deal or otherwise talk.

Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

Chamale posted:

The problem with early-spread theories is that they're badly underestimating covid and its high r0. We know how quickly it tears through an unprotected population. If vape lung really was COVID-19, the US would have been overwhelmed within months. Wild-type could not have been present in the US long before December 2019.

It's been like 17 years since I took molecular biology or ecology but from my understanding of her paper and thread, I took it more as an early variant was running around the US as early as Summer 2019; accounting for much of the EVALI panic and several nursing home outbreaks. She posits it could have even been zoological and noted that it was also found in deer at the time as well. This lineage was usurped by the much more virulent Wuhan one starting in 2020.

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

Azathoth posted:

I figure if the powers that be were going to take her out, they would have done it already. They must have some kind of confidence that she's content to be alive and isn't going to try to cut a deal or otherwise talk.

https://katv.com/amp/news/nation-wo...brooklyn-prison

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001


lmao someone's looking for attention. no way they trust that to a cellie, it'll be a bunch of guards if its done at all.

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

Azathoth posted:

lmao someone's looking for attention. no way they trust that to a cellie, it'll be a bunch of guards if its done at all.

what did you get sent up for?

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

lol just remembered the roided up ex-cop that failed to kill Epstein the first time

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

Azathoth posted:

lmao someone's looking for attention. no way they trust that to a cellie, it'll be a bunch of guards if its done at all.

I agree with you but it was pretty funny. No there's no need to kill her when the courts and the media both agree she had no clients - she trafficked children in the way you move a hot wheels around a closed track. Case closed.

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Excelzior posted:

lol just remembered the roided up ex-cop that failed to kill Epstein the first time

who later reports said was actually trying to save epstein from offing himself

good guy hero cop lol

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Crime on a Dime posted:

what did you get sent up for?

smuggling 2mil of boosted maple syrup in a fast boat across lake of the woods

feds don't gently caress around

Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.
my wife has had poo poo sleep the past 4 nights in a row so I booked the cheapest very local exclusive-space airbnb I could find which is a heated yurt with a queen bed that's $85/night with all fees which is pretty hard to beat

apparantly the included library is both modern and, uh.

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Cabbages and Kings posted:

my wife has had poo poo sleep the past 4 nights in a row so I booked the cheapest very local exclusive-space airbnb I could find which is a heated yurt with a queen bed that's $85/night with all fees which is pretty hard to beat

apparantly the included library is both modern and, uh.


Well it looks like someone has a goon book report assignment.

Ghislaine of YOSPOS
Apr 19, 2020

Excelzior posted:

ah yes, the old hanging/shotgun to the chest combo-wombo

The ole two stones with one bird

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:

The ole two stones with one bird

the clintons liked to surround themselves with very thorough professionals :eng101:

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
This is the right thread for this:

https://twitter.com/MarxistRealism/status/1540357232243752960

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG
Twitter crop cut the last line and I misread as “IEDs”, so I had a moment of wondering what was off about the pic

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
What's the obsession with birth rates lately anyways? White people worried about being minorities?

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



you know it's true because of how elon musk freaks out about falling birthrates every couple of months and he's the one who's too dumb to not give away what's being discussed in the smoke-filled davos back rooms

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

Hot Karl Marx posted:

What's the obsession with birth rates lately anyways? White people worried about being minorities?

politicians haven’t been able to get the same amount of Adrenochrome lately.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Hot Karl Marx posted:

What's the obsession with birth rates lately anyways? White people worried about being minorities?

twas ever thus

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Hot Karl Marx posted:

What's the obsession with birth rates lately anyways? White people worried about being minorities?

Imo great replacement stuff is downstream of the real concern which is that billionaires see decreasing birthrate and population as contemporaneous with a great empire declining, see for example post soviet russia, modern japan, rome, and want it reversed to keep the empire theyre in charge of around longer

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Hot Karl Marx posted:

What's the obsession with birth rates lately anyways? White people worried about being minorities?

yeah this was a right wing obsession dating back to at minimum early war on terror

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



i mean yeah elon musk and jeff bezos and bill gates want there to be more european and american people and fewer african and chinese people because they understand the former as their subjects and the latter as a threat

Tungsten
Aug 10, 2004

Your Working Boy

Hot Karl Marx posted:

What's the obsession with birth rates lately anyways? White people worried about being minorities?

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Shear Modulus posted:

Imo great replacement stuff is downstream of the real concern which is that billionaires see decreasing birthrate and population as contemporaneous with a great empire declining, see for example post soviet russia, modern japan, rome, and want it reversed to keep the empire theyre in charge of around longer

:hmmyes:

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

If you can get $500 from each american that's 165 billion dollars. but if the number of americans drops, the number you need to take from each rises, to reach Bezos wealth levels

that's simple math. they want more suckers born every minute

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Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

a slowly declining population without economic growth likely means declining wealth

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