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BrianWilly posted:Immortal X-Men was so great, I love the Destiny narration. Only thing to nitpick was Emma saying that Storm wouldn't be available for this meeting, except we still see her in some of the panels; probably an art mistake. No Prize: It's Storm. She made it work.
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Yeah. Destiny is in a precarious situation where she has to figure out how to stop Sinister without alerting him to the fact that she knows. It's a brilliant bit of plot development, and I can't wait to see how it shakes out.
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Doesn't this mean they're all doomed once those Moira clones die a natural death or fall off of a bridge? I suppose they could probably work around that if it's just like a comatose moira in a tube. There would probably not be much moral animus towards just somehow passing her into the last half-hour of the universe and briefly confusing Mr. Immortal.
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Nessus posted:Doesn't this mean they're all doomed once those Moira clones die a natural death or fall off of a bridge? I suppose they could probably work around that if it's just like a comatose moira in a tube. There would probably not be much moral animus towards just somehow passing her into the last half-hour of the universe and briefly confusing Mr. Immortal. I assume Sinister has a system for removing their powers once they stop being useful.
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The save scumming thing seems to contradict what they established about Moira's powers wiping out the universe, unless I missed some dialogue about Sinister altering it or something.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:The save scumming thing seems to contradict what they established about Moira's powers wiping out the universe, unless I missed some dialogue about Sinister altering it or something. The way it works if I recall is: He wakes up and activates a Moira, and he puts his memories or a data log or something in her, and then kills her, ending that timeline. He's doing this every day so if one day he wakes up a Moira with memories other than what his records indicate she should have, something happened and he can review that information. Yes, this probably technically makes Mr. Sinister history's greatest monster, but from another perspective the Mr. Sinister who does this ALSO destroys history's greatest monster.
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presumably he later splices moira's x-gene into himself. otherwise, his own death wouldn't cause a restart.
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Nessus posted:I think the idea is that Moira's powers do wipe out the universe in this context. However, Mr. Sinister has figured out how to use this to save himself time and hassle. Yeah, it makes sense that it would suit him fine, but I always thought it was a given that Moira wasn't gonna die and reset the timeline again because it wouldn't be 616 anymore. It'd be one of several splinter realities, depending on how much Sinister does it.
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On somewhat of a sidenote, was there ever some specific thing that happened to Rogue so that she's able to absorb powers now without hurting people? I feel like it's been a while since we had a whole "DON'T TOUCH ME, MAH POWWERS ARE A CURSE!!!11" scene with her. Did something actually happen to adjust her powers, or is it just a matter of her being really good at controlling it now?
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Abroham Lincoln posted:Yeah, it makes sense that it would suit him fine, but I always thought it was a given that Moira wasn't gonna die and reset the timeline again because it wouldn't be 616 anymore. It'd be one of several splinter realities, depending on how much Sinister does it.
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BrianWilly posted:Immortal X-Men was so great, I love the Destiny narration. Only thing to nitpick was Emma saying that Storm wouldn't be available for this meeting, except we still see her in some of the panels; probably an art mistake. echoing this except my pet nitpick is the issue reiterating how Destiny has been blind since she was a child, but she's drawn doing a whole lot of looking at things, which is fine since future sight and decades of experience being blind and all that but then she has a Manhattan Project evidence board she is staring at contemplatively (then joined by Raven in sheer lingerie that I guess is more for the benefit of Irene's past self  )
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Protagorean posted:echoing this except my pet nitpick is the issue reiterating how Destiny has been blind since she was a child, but she's drawn doing a whole lot of looking at things, which is fine since future sight and decades of experience being blind and all that but then she has a Manhattan Project evidence board she is staring at contemplatively (then joined by Raven in sheer lingerie that I guess is more for the benefit of Irene's past self
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BrianWilly posted:On somewhat of a sidenote, was there ever some specific thing that happened to Rogue so that she's able to absorb powers now without hurting people? I feel like it's been a while since we had a whole "DON'T TOUCH ME, MAH POWWERS ARE A CURSE!!!11" scene with her. Did something actually happen to adjust her powers, or is it just a matter of her being really good at controlling it now? There was a whole thing, IIRC, in Mr. & Mrs. X-Man, where she ended up with greater control over her powers and the ability to use them at range.
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it has happened a few times, but she eventually reverts
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Also IIRC she still has traces of Ms. Marvel's and Wonder Man's powers inside her, hence the natural ability to fly and hit like a brick.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:Yeah, it makes sense that it would suit him fine, but I always thought it was a given that Moira wasn't gonna die and reset the timeline again because it wouldn't be 616 anymore. It'd be one of several splinter realities, depending on how much Sinister does it. The explanation they've given is that every Moira death has been in the 616. She's not creating alternate realities, she's just resetting that one. I don't think Sinister's poo poo is changing that.
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Moreover, Sinister's Moiras were all born post-Krakoa.
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Nessus posted:
Say what you will about Hitler, but he's the only person who killed Hitler.
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BrianWilly posted:On somewhat of a sidenote, was there ever some specific thing that happened to Rogue so that she's able to absorb powers now without hurting people? I feel like it's been a while since we had a whole "DON'T TOUCH ME, MAH POWWERS ARE A CURSE!!!11" scene with her. Did something actually happen to adjust her powers, or is it just a matter of her being really good at controlling it now? Xavier helped her get control over her power in Mike Carey's Legacy of X, but she's not 100% her level of control has gone back and forth quite a bit since then.
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Skwirl posted:Say what you will about Hitler, but he's the only person who killed Hitler.
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Synthbuttrange posted:Fuckin Sinister.
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Rogue's level of control has certainly varied over the years, but lately have been pretty well under control - not least of which because "MAH POWERS ARE A CURSE!" doesn't entirely gibe with the mood in the "look how awesome it is to be a mutant" Krakoa era.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Rogue's level of control has certainly varied over the years, but lately have been pretty well under control - not least of which because "MAH POWERS ARE A CURSE!" doesn't entirely gibe with the mood in the "look how awesome it is to be a mutant" Krakoa era. This probably has been discussed but what are the ethics for resurrecting Rogue with her powers being on-contact vs something she can control? I’m assuming that would be an easy enough switch if Quinten gets all the body mods he wants. On a related note….have we seen Chamber during Krakoa era?
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briefly. he was kidnapped by aim and then rescued.
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Chamber has a habit of reblowing his face off. I mean, it’s happened twice which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice. He also went to space with the New Mutants and Mondo.
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As youngin’ with only a cursory knowledge of sex I always wondered why Rogue and Gambit didn’t just go to Reed Richards and get some gently caress suits made from unstable molecules or something.
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Bulgaroctonus posted:As youngin’ with only a cursory knowledge of sex I always wondered why Rogue and Gambit didn’t just go to Reed Richards and get some gently caress suits made from unstable molecules or something.
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^^ I have no idea what that means but I’m surprised Claremont didn’t find some way to work in light bondage gear of unstable molecules for her. I guess if Storm ever got Rogues power we’d have got an answer :/
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Rogue is about to have a whole new problem after this week's Knights of X Gambit died in Otherworld
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I guess you could say he Gambit it
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The fact that Reed hasn’t made “barely there” condoms or even attempted to corner the clothing market is the most unbelievable part of Fantastic Four. Any white male with power (and powers) as well as those smarts and inventions in the 60s was obviously going to take the capitalist route. Actually didn’t Reed say that he didn’t share the unstable fabric because of how much it would hurt the economy?
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Cartridgeblowers posted:Rogue is about to have a whole new problem after this week's Knights of X Gambit died in Otherworld I have a very strong suspicion that they're going to use the Siege Perilous to "cure" the people who have died in Otherworld
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Boo this development. Booooo
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Endless Mike posted:I have a very strong suspicion that they're going to use the Siege Perilous to "cure" the people who have died in Otherworld That would kinda suck!
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Gologle posted:That would kinda suck! would it? basically nothing has been done with the characters that happened to.
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every time reed lets his technology out someone wildly misuses it in dangerous ways. he can't build a toaster without someone using that to build Toastron The Annihilator.
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I think it was just a single panel, not something that was ever developed or followed up on, where Reed said the F4s wealth came from bribes from various auto companies and other technology companies not to release his inventions that would make their products obsolete. Probably for the best that's been memory holed otherwise we'd have to deal with Richards being the reason we're not gonna have polar bears anymore.
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Skwirl posted:I think it was just a single panel, not something that was ever developed or followed up on, where Reed said the F4s wealth came from bribes from various auto companies and other technology companies not to release his inventions that would make their products obsolete.
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When you combine those two reasons, you get the Big Bad in Planetary!
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