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covid made me a lot dumber and post more. even posting 'your actions matter' cringe in this holy place. i'm sorry. humans are going bye bye real soon glad to be loling with ya'll
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 18:57 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 09:06 |
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endlessmonotony posted:It won't accumulate enough to cause extinction. I literally never said permafrost mercury would cause extinction. They claimed that permafrost would be a rich source for agriculture. I showed that it wouldn't. Work on your reading comprehension. The extinction forcing factors are things like carbonate undersaturation in the ocean, widespread anoxia and euxinia, global starvation from a bottom-up trophic cascade of biomass loss, and an ever mounting disease burden as the global ecology shifts toward favoring single celled or other microorganisms. When you take the continued survival of mammals for granted in your hypotheticals you just show that you don't have any actual understanding of how our biosphere operates as a system.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 18:58 |
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Undecided Moderate posted:And if not, the U.S will absolutely go to war with them so the elites can maintain their standard of living for bit longer, lol
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 18:58 |
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Everyone know that permafrost turns to agricultural soil when it thaws. It's like those civ games! Please ignore the hellish swamps that currently exists from melting permafrost...
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 19:28 |
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:I literally never said permafrost mercury would cause extinction. They claimed that permafrost would be a rich source for agriculture. I showed that it wouldn't. Work on your reading comprehension.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 19:54 |
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lollontee posted:i guess we'll see about that, but nevertheless you ought not evaluate the chinese communists ability to react and overcome immense challenges, on the same standards as you would for western nations anyway ::a tsunami 10 miles high is 10 feet away from hitting chinese communists along with everyone else on the beach:: "Well, I don't think we should underestimate chinese communists ability to react and overcome immense challenges!"
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 20:26 |
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The idea that this will kill all of humanity is nothing but childish fantasy to pretend there's equal outcomes. Quit it.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 20:29 |
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There might be some weird inbred little clans floating around but this is mostly yelling past each other.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 20:38 |
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endlessmonotony posted:The idea that this will kill all of humanity is nothing but childish fantasy to pretend there's equal outcomes. Quit it. We are doing our active best to end oxygen-breathing life through the production and degradation of plastic and vulcanized rubber. Any "climate-saving" technology relies heavily on plastic and rubber. Saving humans is the miracle stretch goal at this point, we should be focused on saving any mammals at all, which, actually, China does have the power to force action on! They're one of maybe 9 countries that do.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 20:50 |
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Car Hater posted:We are doing our active best to end oxygen-breathing life through the production and degradation of plastic and vulcanized rubber. Any "climate-saving" technology relies heavily on plastic and rubber. Saving humans is the miracle stretch goal at this point, we should be focused on saving any mammals at all, which, actually, China does have the power to force action on! They're one of maybe 9 countries that do. We're not going to save the climate. This doesn't mean humans go extinct, it means the habitable zones narrow and our food production capacity drops.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:06 |
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Oh well if we don't check the climate heating then yes, we're going to a hothouse earth where mammals over 5kg or so won't be able to perspire effectively. Idk are you going with the "humanity will endure no matter how tough things are, even if we have to live in subterranean caves and eat lichen"?
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:12 |
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endlessmonotony posted:We're not going to save the climate. lmfao
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:13 |
I'm pretty over humans and large mammals tbh E: well, pity for the elephants
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:13 |
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Car Hater posted:We are doing our active best to end oxygen-breathing life through the production and degradation of plastic and vulcanized rubber. Any "climate-saving" technology relies heavily on plastic and rubber. Saving humans is the miracle stretch goal at this point, we should be focused on saving any mammals at all, which, actually, China does have the power to force action on! They're one of maybe 9 countries that do. The last humans in China, furiously attempting to keep the panda from extinction. success!
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:16 |
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Car Hater posted:Oh well if we don't check the climate heating then yes, we're going to a hothouse earth where mammals over 5kg or so won't be able to perspire effectively. We know what happened the last time we had this much carbon in the atmosphere and it wasn't hothouse earth. It would make tropical and subtropical regions uninhabitable and unable to grow food. This bullshit about everyone being dead is just another flavor of cope.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:20 |
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endlessmonotony posted:We know what happened the last time we had this much carbon in the atmosphere and it wasn't hothouse earth. The end-Permian would like to have a word with you lol. Also there you go again only looking at one factor, GHG load in the atmosphere, instead of all of the novel stressors we're adding. Your brain is mush. Must be the CO2 in the air.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:22 |
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IAMKOREA posted:I'm pretty over humans and large mammals tbh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe8xnFdLENs
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:24 |
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humanity will colonize the stars, with capitalism in tact.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:25 |
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:The end-Permian would like to have a word with you lol. Also there you go again only looking at one factor, GHG load in the atmosphere, instead of all of the novel stressors we're adding. Your brain is mush. Must be the CO2 in the air. "novel stressors"?
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:27 |
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B b b but we've seen this level of CO2 in the atmosphere before.quote:Among the ocean acidification events hitherto identified in Earth’s history, the PETM may be the closest analog for the future. Yet the evidence suggests that the carbon input rate from human activities may exceed that during the PETM. Thus, it seems that the ocean acidification event that humans may cause over the next few centuries is unprecedented in the geologic past for which sufficiently well-preserved paleorecords are available. (from an excellent paper, https://eagle.fish.washington.edu/oyster/Dissertation/dissertation%20drafts/articles/zeebe%202011.pdf)
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:29 |
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Lpzie posted:humanity will colonize the stars, with capitalism in tact.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:29 |
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lollontee posted:"novel stressors"? from: https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-boundaries/the-nine-planetary-boundaries.html Here is a small, incomplete list of things that could go in the novel entities section. I'm sure others can add more: PFAS/PFOS, microplastics, fertility crashes, global vitamin deficiencies (see: thiamine), global disease burden
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:34 |
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:B b b but we've seen this level of CO2 in the atmosphere before. At the very least it's clear that we as a species are far into the "overshoot" territory of the Earth's carrying capacity.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:35 |
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:
do you have a graph that isn't psychotic? also, plastic isn't going to kill life on earth, nor are... lack of vitamins
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:36 |
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lollontee posted:do you have a graph that isn't psychotic? also, plastic isn't going to kill life on earth, nor are... lack of vitamins Sorry you're too stupid to read a radar graph.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:37 |
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Ruggan posted:At the very least it's clear that we as a species are far into the "overshoot" territory of the Earth's carrying capacity. humans alter the carrying capacity of their environments. it is one of the defining characteristics of our species
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:37 |
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endlessmonotony posted:We know what happened the last time we had this much carbon in the atmosphere and it wasn't hothouse earth. It would make the places that the vast majority of the biosphere lives uninhabitable and unable to grow food. It will be nigh-impossible for flora and fauna to adapt in time, and the habitable regions won't be stable. What is cope about it when I'm expecting the pbf comic about the birds and the bees
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:38 |
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Sorry you're too stupid to read a radar graph. malaka u got nuttin but .swf embeds years after every browser stopped supporting it. eat poo poo straight out of my rear end
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:39 |
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https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1815080115quote:Lennart Balk, an environmental biochemist at Stockholm University, witnessed a dramatically different scene when he visited Swedish coastal colonies during a 5-year period starting in 2004. Many birds couldn’t fly. Others were completely paralyzed. Birds also weren’t eating and had difficulty breathing. Thousands of birds were suffering and dying from this paralytic disease, says Balk. “We went into the bird colonies, and we were shocked. You could see something was really wrong. It was a scary situation for this time of year,” he says.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:40 |
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I can actually read that graph, it basically says "here's a lot of poo poo we don't know". To get to the conclusion presented from there, you need to add "therefore all of that poo poo will absolutely ruin us".
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:41 |
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endlessmonotony posted:I can actually read that graph, it basically says "here's a lot of poo poo we don't know". What does E/MSY stand for
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:46 |
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quote:Still another group at risk are people who eat a lot of fermented fish, notes Riley, because the fish are rich in the enzyme thiaminase, which breaks down thiamine. In fact, a diet of thiaminase-rich fish, it turned out, was the culprit in the case of thiamine-deficient Great Lakes trout and salmon.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:48 |
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:What does E/MSY stand for How fast poo poo is going extinct. Which does nothing to prove your point.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:49 |
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:What does E/MSY stand for everything / maybe something, yes?
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:49 |
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endlessmonotony posted:How fast poo poo is going extinct. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0185809 quote:Global declines in insects have sparked wide interest among scientists, politicians, and the general public. Loss of insect diversity and abundance is expected to provoke cascading effects on food webs and to jeopardize ecosystem services. Our understanding of the extent and underlying causes of this decline is based on the abundance of single species or taxonomic groups only, rather than changes in insect biomass which is more relevant for ecological functioning. Here, we used a standardized protocol to measure total insect biomass using Malaise traps, deployed over 27 years in 63 nature protection areas in Germany (96 unique location-year combinations) to infer on the status and trend of local entomofauna. Our analysis estimates a seasonal decline of 76%, and mid-summer decline of 82% in flying insect biomass over the 27 years of study. We show that this decline is apparent regardless of habitat type, while changes in weather, land use, and habitat characteristics cannot explain this overall decline. This yet unrecognized loss of insect biomass must be taken into account in evaluating declines in abundance of species depending on insects as a food source, and ecosystem functioning in the European landscape. Whatever, the last time there was a major insect extinction event was the end-Permian. It'll be fine. Just some novel entity to ignore. The background extinction rate of animals has nothing to do with the risk to humans.
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:50 |
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surely, the apocalypse is just around the corner, and therefore my nihilism is justified
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:51 |
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lollontee posted:surely, the apocalypse is just around the corner, and therefore my nihilism is justified sticking your head in the sand is just nihilism with extra steps
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:52 |
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you're too loving dumb to read the subsequent paragraph: quote:So far, no such clear explanation has emerged for the other cases of thiamine-deficient wildlife that researchers have documented, even as the tally grows. In 2016, Balk showed that several other species across northern Europe, including blue mussels (Mytilus sp.) and eels (Anguilla sp.), were also suffering from the deficiency. He further analyzed correlations between deficiency-induced biochemical changes and long-term health effects, such as increased parasite infection and impaired growth
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:53 |
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WampaLord posted:sticking your head in the sand is just nihilism with extra steps not if the sand is on fire
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:54 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 09:06 |
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:you're too loving dumb to read the subsequent paragraph: which says that we don't know what is causing it, which... is an argument for what?
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# ? Jun 25, 2022 21:55 |