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Mr Hootington posted:Who tries to actually secede first? Jefferson, because nobody would notice
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i say swears online posted:it's colorado and the feds just starve everybody Can't starve out Colorado. We can dam the rivers and build our own reservoirs to revitalize our agricultural lands on the eastern plains and in the mountain valleys and more than substantial livestock to have a thick steak once a month. We have natural gas wells, oil wells, solar and wind fields. And half the people here are foaming at the mouth for a fight, any fight. Basically, try it, and half the plains, and the entirety of the southwest, will go dry.
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atelier morgan posted:nobody is going to 'actually' secede in a de jure sense, the inevitable breakdown of connections will just continue apace, accelerating as various systems fail in a stochastic manner under increased pressure both political and material (from climate and disease and global supply chain instability, etc) until at some point people will look back and there will not have been a USA for a very long time That's my read too. Decentralization as the Supreme Court stripes the federal government of it's national enforcements. A 21st century Holy Roman Empire.
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OhFunny posted:That's my read too. Decentralization as the Supreme Court stripes the federal government of it's national enforcements. A 21st century Holy Roman Empire. Well without the city states,
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War and Pieces posted:Well without the city states, new york city already has an army on par with a hell of a lot of national militaries comrade, lmao atelier morgan has issued a correction as of 22:48 on Jun 25, 2022 |
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atelier morgan posted:new york city has one of the largest armies in the world comrade, lmao yeah but they're not going to fight red state troops when they share their cause
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Dustcat posted:yeah but they're not going to fight red state troops when they share their cause oh yeah ofc, but its definitely a city-state already
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it's going to be a very strange civil war and the funniest part is that the people who started it already held all the meaningful power in the country
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Substandard posted:It should be California, they get super hosed by basically every aspect of statehood and it's like the 5th largest global economy on its own. I've heard this sentiment before but is this GDP economy or productive capital economy.
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/mcmansionhell/status/1540803184360411136?s=20&t=Ci-M8esp_Tr_w-rBzSGoWg how do words work
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In Training posted:I've heard this sentiment before but is this GDP economy or productive capital economy. its definitely gdp economy, but california does also have a shitload of productive capital in the form of a cartel of noble families with massive estates farmed by barely paid migrant labor and state-owned-for-private-profit slave plantations and factories
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zetamind2000 posted:From the doomsday econ thread, which states have the most military bases if balkanization happens Washington and Georgia will be nuclear powers lmao
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Mayor Dave posted:Washington and Georgia will be nuclear powers lmao barring revolutionary mutiny amongst the sailors ala 1905 the us navy will be a nuclear power, and run the puget sound as its fief, long after the federal government is a rump irrelevance
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i'm gonna start tossing dirt into the panama canal
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atelier morgan posted:barring revolutionary mutiny amongst the sailors ala 1905 the us navy will be a nuclear power, and run the puget sound as its fief, long after the federal government is a rump irrelevance If our navel overlords deign to rearm the great lakes I'll have their back
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War and Pieces posted:If our navel overlords deign to rearm the great lakes I'll have their back This'll probably happen at some point I feel, if just gunboats
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Colorado the mountain fortress. The Helms Deep against chuds
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Milo and POTUS posted:This'll probably happen at some point I feel, if just gunboats hell yeah bring industry back to the rust belt
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Dustcat posted:it's going to be a very strange civil war and the funniest part is that the people who started it already held all the meaningful power in the country that was how US Civil War 1 started too
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Dustcat posted:it's going to be a very strange civil war and the funniest part is that the people who started it already held all the meaningful power in the country "i have a thousand guns in my basement which means im just gonna sit here and die if i cant go to applebees"
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War and Pieces posted:If our navel overlords deign to rearm the great lakes I'll have their back I would move back to Chicago in a heartbeat lol. Would be loving dope
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Trains, freshwater and culture. I could die happy
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In Training posted:Trains, freshwater and culture. I could die happy also legal weed
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i hope america nukes itself
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Oglethorpe posted:also legal weed Alcoholic here, I doubt no matter how bad it gets in the us theyll ever try prohibition again. Would instantly illegitimize any state trying to enforce it
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redleader posted:i hope america nukes itself We've got a few of those too, in NE Colorado. I will help dam the Rio Grande if it comes to it.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Can't starve out Colorado. We can dam the rivers and build our own reservoirs to revitalize our agricultural lands on the eastern plains and in the mountain valleys and more than substantial livestock to have a thick steak once a month. We have natural gas wells, oil wells, solar and wind fields. And half the people here are foaming at the mouth for a fight, any fight. Also the operator culture small-arms obsessed ~*~warfighters~*~ are hilariously, irredeemably poo poo at mountain warfare.
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Morbus posted:Also the operator culture small-arms obsessed ~*~warfighters~*~ are hilariously, irredeemably poo poo at mountain warfare. They really are, and they're easy to spot. However, a lot of veterans have settled here. Lots of army and air force. Colorado offers some pretty nice benefits if you have a disability rating, so a lot hang around after they serve, or retire out here. And while obviously there is crossover between the cosplayer community and actual veterans, it's probably a better emergency militia than Nebraska or New Mexico could drum up.
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https://twitter.com/BNNBreaking/status/1540778428798234624?s=20&t=hqaBHwwcBvmF7DpXBGQhIw balkin dat poo poo (this post is not supportive of the military either)
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US edging closer to civil war? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/26/second-civil-war-us-abortion
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Actuary X posted:US edging closer to civil war? quote:Two essential facts of the 2020 election should give leftwing partisans hope, however. Biden-voting counties amounted to 70% of GDP, while 60% of college-educated voters chose Biden. That is to say, the left-democratic wing of America is the productive and educated part of the country. 
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Actuary X posted:US edging closer to civil war? hmm quote:This same divide has played out on an international level, in the struggle between Russia and Ukraine. Russia, overwhelmed by resentment because it cannot meaningfully compete in an integrated 21st-century economy, has devolved into a conservative authoritarianism with no other outlet than violence. But Ukraine had better access to the global financial and media networks. The reaction, from the forces of the democratic west, has been to cut Russia off from financial systems and to provide Ukraine with superior technology. Technology and financial networks have proven the match, at the very least, of brute force.
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that whole article is extremely lib brained and if he thinks poor and dispossessed minorities will fight his pet war against the chuds, just lol. sneering and talking down to the very people he expects to save lovely libs like him along with the power structures that prop him up
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Jun 26, 2022 17:55
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https://archive.ph/azRRQ BALK BALK BALK BALK
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Nuclearmonkee posted:that whole article is extremely lib brained It's the Guardian/Observer, so by definition, yes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEkjb-2KLpU balk balk balk
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MLSM posted:https://twitter.com/BNNBreaking/status/1540778428798234624?s=20&t=hqaBHwwcBvmF7DpXBGQhIw eh, not really. They're just saying that on Federal military bases, the same rules will still apply for whether they can provide abortions (which they generally can't thanks to the Hyde amendment, which prevents federal funds from paying for abortions except to save the life of the woman, or if the pregnancy arises from incest or rape.) Since it's Federal land, even if a state wholly bans abortions in all circumstances they can still provide them (subject to Hyde limitations) regardless.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Since it's Federal land, even if a state wholly bans abortions in all circumstances they can still provide them (subject to Hyde limitations) regardless. Texas is dumb enough to try to enforce their state abortion ban on the military and kick off secession two when they can't
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StratGoatCom posted:https://archive.ph/azRRQ Youtube: How to makes you own Abortion pill at home using a 3d printer.
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