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Have the grand inquisitor show up, rescue Vader, but decline to take on Obi-wan because he's a weedy piece of poo poo.
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robot roll call posted:I've been mostly negative about this show but I did like the end of the duel when he hosed up vader's helmet and wheezing anakin was screaming at him with the malfunctioning voicebox, much cooler than I was expecting by this point yeah that was genuinely pretty good this is all there is on the wiki for the construction of the Supremacy: quote:The ship was built by the First Order at staggering cost within the galaxy's Unknown Regions to act as the official capital of the First Order on the orders of Supreme Leader Snoke. Although various officers and allies of the First Order argued for a planet to act as their capital, Snoke insisted on using the Supremacy as the main capital, refusing to designate capital command to a world either under direct First Order control or in the Unknown Regions—at least until the restoration of total galactic control, as part of Snoke's aim to restore and further expand the territory formerly belonging to the Galactic Empire.[1] Armitage Hux agreed with the strategy to keep the capital of the First Order aboard the Supremacy, seeing it as a way to mitigate the risk of it being destroyed in battle when mobile. lame.
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Jun 25, 2022 11:27
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Valve Steam Deck posted:Nothing that Star Wars calls a LASER is ever actually a laser. Turbolasers are just giant blasters, for example. Lightsabers aren't even actual light. Apparently the novelization tries to explain it away instead of just letting it be. Something about Starkiller base using "phantom energy" and firing the weapon causes a tear in hyperspace that made it visible everywhere in the galaxy lol
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Jun 25, 2022 14:07
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jisforjosh posted:Apparently the novelization tries to explain it away instead of just letting it be. Something about Starkiller base using "phantom energy" and firing the weapon causes a tear in hyperspace that made it visible everywhere in the galaxy lol I'm honestly fine with that. As an explanation for that one thing? I don't care whether it is explained or not for it's own sake, because it's really just a directorial contrivance, and that's fine but I do like explanations like that existing because it means that future entries might make use of that explanation for tactics or technology, expanding the setting a bit and allowing for more varied plot elements. They probably won't, but I like that kind of silly technobabble bullshit science regardless.
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Jun 25, 2022 14:48
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josh04 posted:Have the grand inquisitor show up, rescue Vader, but decline to take on Obi-wan because he's a weedy piece of poo poo. "I can't carry on the Emperor's will, but I can carry you."
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Jun 25, 2022 16:01
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What the gently caress was the point in Reva? I feel like her plan made no sense, their plan involving her plan made no sense either. Outside of "how did she even know who luke was because Bail's message wasn't enough" why would killing the kid vader doesn't even KNOW HE HAS mean anything to Vader??
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Jun 25, 2022 16:42
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Taear posted:Outside of "how did she even know who luke was because Bail's message wasn't enough" why would killing the kid vader doesn't even KNOW HE HAS mean anything to Vader?? What's interesting is that at no point does Reva learn that Luke is Vader's kid. All she learns from the message is that there's a child that Obi-Wan is protecting on Tatooine, and that Owen is involved (who she met previously). So she goes to kill Luke purely to gently caress with Obi-Wan, who she blames for not helping the younglings at the temple. It doesn't make sense because she's at the end of her rope and acting on pure rage and spite.
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Jun 25, 2022 17:42
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read the script, luke....
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Jun 25, 2022 17:51
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The leaks, which were highly accurate for the beginning of the show but then trailed off, had reva still working for vader at that point and going to get luke for that reason before having her moment of doubt, peaceing out, then getting killed by vader. Seems plausible they hacked something together when it was decided at the eleventh hour she would become goodguy and live e: I'm not sure it was ever linked ITT, in case people are curious here No Mods No Masters fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Jun 25, 2022 |
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Jun 25, 2022 17:57
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I just watched the message scene again and it's really ambiguous, it says: "He's found them... if he learns.. the children.. Owen.. help the boy" She's just uncovered a whole network dedicated to helping force sensitives and Jedi, it seems more likely that she'd jump to "Obi Wan is hiding a youngling" than "DARTH VADER HAS KIDS". Maybe they edited that part to be more uncertain.
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Jun 25, 2022 18:00
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did they think while filming it they really had something with that character, maybe?
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Jun 25, 2022 18:00
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https://screenrant.com/obi-wan-kenobi-lightsabers-glow-dark-lighting-problem/ So this article is too long but I skimmed through it and whoever was responsible for Obi Wan was lazy and chose to film the lightsabers in a way that not only looks awful but was unfixable in any sort of post production. Which sums up the laziness of the production for the whole series.
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Jun 25, 2022 19:16
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The last fight between Vader and ObiWan was very engaging and well-done, its a shame the rest of the show was so mediocre. It really feels like they had this cool scene they wanted to show, and then built a lackluster frame around it to get to that point. It wasn't as bad as The Book of Robert Feet, but it did squander Ewan McGregor for most of the runtime. Overall, disappointing but with that one bright spot of the final duel.
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Jun 25, 2022 19:38
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Just Chamber posted:https://screenrant.com/obi-wan-kenobi-lightsabers-glow-dark-lighting-problem/ quote:Ewan McGregor revealed that every line of dialogue in Star Wars: Attack of the Clones had to be redubbed with ADR because the movie was the first feature film shot with a digital camera, resulting in a number of unexpected combinations, such as the camera ruining all the on-set audio. quote:"They were cutting edge technology ... they had huge umbilical cords coming out the back of the cameras, and you couldn't change the lenses. Or, they could change the lenses but it would take like, half an hour. So everything was just shot on a zoom lens. The umbilicals led to this big tent in the corner of the stage that literally hummed. It was so noisy. And when in post-production, they realized at the end that the noise they made was exactly the frequency of the human voice. So we had to ADR every single line of Episode 2. None of the original dialogue made it through because of that, because the cameras were like, so new. None of the bugs had been worked out yet. So compared to what we're doing now, it's like night and day."  Wow
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Jun 25, 2022 19:41
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first world problems, but those bright white flashes during the flashbacks in the obiwan vader fight and throughout the episode were pure hell on my oled with the disney dolby vision stream. had to crank up the bias lighting real high to stop the pain and even then it was annoying this show was truly surprising in its badness. i liked some of the fight and the broken vader mask and anakin in general, but the rest made boba fett truly look like a work of art
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Jun 25, 2022 19:55
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I mean massive problem, but it does also highlight that a couple of things the Prequels have going for them is that they were breaking new ground in filmmaking and Lucas wasn't plagiarizing himself.
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Jun 25, 2022 20:14
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Dont they basically ADR everything in star wars anyway, what with dudes in plastic costumes stomping around
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Jun 25, 2022 20:53
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Ewan McGregor's server room nightmare is pretty funny. The screenrant article is probably dead on about the blue LEDs blowing out Obi-wan's face and forcing them to do all the lightsaber scenes dark and low-contrast to hide it, that seems pretty plausible. Weird that they wouldn't have spotted that in test shoots but maybe they were just that rushed.
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Jun 25, 2022 21:02
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:What's interesting is that at no point does Reva learn that Luke is Vader's kid. All she learns from the message is that there's a child that Obi-Wan is protecting on Tatooine, and that Owen is involved (who she met previously). So she goes to kill Luke purely to gently caress with Obi-Wan, who she blames for not helping the younglings at the temple. It doesn't make sense because she's at the end of her rope and acting on pure rage and spite. No I know. There's just no reason for the end at all. Reva's story makes literally no sense. So Anakin came and killed her buddies, making her hate Anakin. Sure, okay. She joined the inquisitors to get close to Darth Vader, who she knows somehow is Anakin. Okay...I guess? I know Vader trains them so maybe she found that out somehow. But she doesn't do anything when she becomes Grand Inquisitor. At no point does she enact any of her plan. So that part of the story means nothing. And Vader KNEW she wasn't really on his side, so he orchestrated a fall for her where Rupert Friend turned out to still be alive. I'd get this if she'd got close to Obiwan and Vader used Reva to do the same. Nope though. No reason for Vader to not just immediately kill her. I've no idea what the point of her was at all and that's really poo poo.
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Jun 25, 2022 21:50
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Should have pulled an Inglourious Basterds: Obi-Wan kills Vader, Reva kills Luke. Have the show end there. Would have nearly made the whole thing worth watching.
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Jun 25, 2022 22:08
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That would have absolutely slapped.
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Jun 25, 2022 22:13
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Interesting thing to note: no one is highlighting Hayden Christensen as any sort of problem in the show. I remember people pissing their pants over him almost years ago (oh christ I’m old). But I thought he and the chemistry he had with McGregor were some of the best parts of the show, and IMO he was way underutilized. Not that I trust Disney with it, but I’d be down with a couple Vader episodes. It was almost all worth it for that final duel.
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Jun 26, 2022 01:22
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Cause he’s in it for all of 3 minutes.
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Jun 26, 2022 01:23
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Yeah seriously I truly loath how underutilized Hayden was. Like that half Vader/Anakin scene was loving amazing but I still can't believe there's only one flashback. I needed some Clone Wars flash backs of Obi-Wan and Anakin together fighting clankers. 
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Jun 26, 2022 01:26
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I wonder if Hayden Christensen was timid to return to acting for Star Wars for some reason, but the teasing out of his relatively limited performance worked well for me.
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Jehde posted:I wonder if Hayden Christensen was timid to return to acting for Star Wars for some reason, but the teasing out of his relatively limited performance worked well for me. Some reason? I'd think the reason he might be timid is pretty clear given the public lambasting he received for playing Anakin over the years. Jake Lloyd, the kid who played Anakin in The Phantom Menace retired from acting only a couple of years afterwards because he was being given so much poo poo in school and the press over the role. That said, even if he were to return to playing Anakin/Vader more, he'll be behind a mask the vast majority of the time so his presence will be a lot harder to detect unless his acting was truly loving abysmal anyway. You could pick up good acting through it via smaller gestures and so on, but it's easier to hide bad acting in that kind of situation. I don't think he is a bad actor, and it was more likely bad direction and acting in front of a green screen with no real context that probably hosed him, since he had a lot less experience than people like Natalie Portman, Ewan McGregor etc. The only way we'd really see a lot of him as Anakin is if they made a show about Anakin in a new timeline where he didn't fall to the Dark Side. Which I'd totally be down for, really. An "Infinities" style story for the prequels where Anakin resists the Dark Side and it's Obi Wan who becomes Palpatine's apprentice or some poo poo would be fairly cool.
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Jun 26, 2022 01:45
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NGL I’d watch a beta/gamma/delta timeline where Vader wins Mustafar instead of Obi-Wan, like in that one game. That’s actually be interesting in some way, which is why Disney won’t (and loving shouldn’t) do it.
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Pollyanna posted:NGL I’d watch a beta/gamma/delta timeline where Vader wins Mustafar instead of Obi-Wan, like in that one game. That’s actually be interesting in some way, which is why Disney won’t (and loving shouldn’t) do it. There have been a few things like that which has left me disappointed at how reluctant Star Wars as a franchise is to do "What If"s. I really would've liked a continuation of The Force Unleashed's DLC, for example.
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Jun 26, 2022 02:09
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What if Obi-Wan teams up with Count Dooku, instead of dismissing him actually telling the truth?
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Sash! posted:What if Obi-Wan teams up with Count Dooku, instead of dismissing him actually telling the truth? That'd lead to them bonding over Qui-Gon and redeeming Dooku, and we all know how Disney loves them redemptions
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halokiller posted:Should have pulled an Inglourious Basterds: Obi-Wan kills Vader, Reva kills Luke. Have the show end there. Would have nearly made the whole thing worth watching. There's that one Perry Bible Fellowship comic about people in the far future watching a movie about WW2, and it's dudes riding on zebras killing Hitler with a lance, and wooden ships of the line and poo poo. I want a Star Wars like this from the perspective of people who have a totally corrupted view of what really went down. Maybe they could make it like that one episode of Star Trek Voyager where the holographic doctor gets reactivated in a museum hundreds of years in the future and has to answer for the crimes of his 'warlike' crew. The SW equivalent could be some banged up old droid getting reactivated, or someone getting unfrozen from carbonite or something. Even better if it ends with the twist that it turns out the version of Star Wars we've all been familiar with is the corrupted version. Drunk in Space fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Jun 26, 2022 |
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Jun 26, 2022 02:41
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Run the script for the original The Star Wars through a dozen different language translators, then give it to an AI to use as a basis of telling a new Star Wars story and see what it spits out, then use that as the starting point of a new saga
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Drunk in Space posted:There's that one Perry Bible Fellowship comic about people in the far future watching a movie about WW2, and it's dudes riding on zebras killing Hitler with a lance, and wooden ships of the line and poo poo. I want a Star Wars like this from the perspective of people who have a totally corrupted view of what really went down. 
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Jun 26, 2022 03:40
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I've seen this before, but only now do I notice the completely gratuitous missile
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tsob posted:I have never liked the argument that Batman should just kill the Joker or whoever. He is, essentially, a super cop. His job is to catch criminals, not kill them. If he starts executing them then he becomes not just the cop, but basically judge, jury and executioner all in one. He gets to decide when and where punishments apply, and you don't think the public would have a problem with that? He catches the Joker and hands him over all the time. If the death penalty applies, then let the state convict the Joker and kill him in a legal manner. If they don't, then it's on the state for failing to do so, not on Batman. Who is just a cop (ignoring the ACAB implications of him being a cop of course). He's done his job, and failure to hold or kill the Joker is on others and not Batman specifically. The public in DC is too apathetic to demand more, the state too incompetent to enforce more and they both deserve the blame more than Batman. I forget where I read it, but I've always liked the implicit idea that the Gotham City Police Department is full of corrupt cops who are nonetheless strict and scrupulous believers in due process and the rule of law. With as many people as the Joker's killed, you'd think a significant percentage of the police force would want revenge for a friend or relative once they've got the guy in lockup, but it's never "oh wow, looks like that Joker guy hung himself in his cell" or "poor guy tripped and fell down the stairs, broke his neck, tragic" or even "crazy clown came right at me, I had no choice but to drill him six times in the heart".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNjEN2bWrO4
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Anita Dickinme posted:Yeah seriously I truly loath how underutilized Hayden was. Like that half Vader/Anakin scene was loving amazing but I still can't believe there's only one flashback. I needed some Clone Wars flash backs of Obi-Wan and Anakin together fighting clankers. When they said Hayden Christensen was coming back i thought for sure there'd be skme creative thing where Obi-Wan sees Vader but as Anakin as a hallucination or something, or like the force skype from episode 8, maybe he and Anakin can communicate through the Force and that's how he sees him. I didn't expect it would just be Hayden as one of three people stomping around in a Darth Vader outfit
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Calling it now, star wars from now on will be using the same characters in the same starwalker saga for the next decade under the guise of parallel universes to justify redoing variations of the same dead horse story.
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Lampsacus posted:Calling it now, star wars from now on will be using the same characters in the same starwalker saga for the next decade under the guise of parallel universes to justify redoing variations of the same dead horse story. star wars multiverse baby!! no consequences!
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Lampsacus posted:Calling it now, star wars from now on will be using the same characters in the same starwalker saga for the next decade under the guise of parallel universes to justify redoing variations of the same dead horse story.
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