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PerilPastry posted:It is good but one of the hosts - knowledgeable as he is - can't go five minutes without saying stuff like "Good thing the woke brigade wasn't around back then." or "They'd have canceled Churchill, Blitz or no Blitz!" What does he think Churchill did about the Blitz?
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May 22, 2022 14:36
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Can't wait to hear the take that the 1945 election was cancel culture in action. I'd be disappointed if that take hasn't been done before. "You call your deputy PM a would-be Gestapo creator ONE time and the woke mob will force you to lose the election!"
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May 23, 2022 00:19
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I'm really been appreciating the History of Persian podcast recently. I feel like the usual histories run with the greek narrative only and it's good to be able to draw fresh perspectives from the more obscure non Greek sources.
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My only issue with the History of Byzantium podcast is that the dude notes he really does root for the Byzantines a ton of the time, and you can tell that's the case with how he describes Normans, a lot of the happenings in the First Crusade, etc., as well as some of the episodes at the end of Heracles' reign. It's fine, and still comes out pretty well researched and all, but man. I think he admitted as such during one of the ... 9th century Q&A's? It's around when he complained that the Byzantines "wasted a century"(??) of opportunity.
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Jun 18, 2022 19:59
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Jun 18, 2022 20:04
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I mean describing the Norman’s in as negative a light as possible is objectively correct
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Lady Radia posted:My only issue with the History of Byzantium podcast is that the dude notes he really does root for the Byzantines a ton of the time, and you can tell that's the case with how he describes Normans, a lot of the happenings in the First Crusade, etc., as well as some of the episodes at the end of Heracles' reign. It's fine, and still comes out pretty well researched and all, but man. I think he admitted as such during one of the ... 9th century Q&A's? It's around when he complained that the Byzantines "wasted a century"(??) of opportunity. I definitely do get this pretty often when I'm reading narrative histories too, ending up rooting for whoever it is I'm reading about. Then I have had it that I'll later read about the group that opposed them and and up rooting for them instead. I feel like it's just a natural human inclination, even if it is better to avoid. e: semi-relatedly and I guess contradicting that, I've been listening to the History in the Bible podcast lately and good grief did that make me despise Joshua.
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Jun 18, 2022 20:15
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It's very understandable to root for a side, it can even be necessary if you're making an entertainment piece that you wanna inject some emotion into. Although personally I always root against the Byzantines and Romans whenever there's a chance. The Mexico season of the Revolutions podcast felt a bit like a soap opera, and I feel like you could make like an HBO series following the events and audiences would latch onto different characters like they do in soap operas. Other seasons had a similar thing of having a bunch of factions playing out as well, but the Mexican Revolution seemed like such a tight cast of characters despite having 3-5 factions bristling against each other.
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yeah i still recommend the history of byzantium and such, i just don't love that vibe, especially considering how much white supremacists have embraced byzantine/deus vult bullshit. but robin owns so w/eSlothfulCobra posted:It's very understandable to root for a side, it can even be necessary if you're making an entertainment piece that you wanna inject some emotion into. Although personally I always root against the Byzantines and Romans whenever there's a chance. yeah the Mexico season definitely feels like it would be an incredible historical drama
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Lady Radia posted:yeah the Mexico season definitely feels like it would be an incredible historical drama The Mexican revolution is steeped in caudillismo where you tend to have factions following powerful individuals rather than ideologies, so loyalty is very personally held. It really lends itself to dramatic passions and politics. One of my favorite novels, La muerte de Artemio Cruz, is set in part during the revolution and makes an excellent companion to read while studying the subject. glynnenstein fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Jun 19, 2022 |
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Jun 19, 2022 00:30
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Fall of Civilizations is back! Two hours on the Nabataeans, builders of Petra
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Yeah if there is one thing White nationalists hate, it’s Vikings and their various offshoots
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah if there is one thing White nationalists hate, it’s Vikings and their various offshoots Definitely get where you're coming from, but sounds like you just might not be familiar with modern white supremacists. Here's an alright-ish article to get started: https://www.salon.com/2021/03/08/why-white-supremacists-and-qanon-fans-are-obsessed-with-the-byzantine-empire_partner/
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No I know that, I just dont particularly care. If your going to be that hyper sensitive then I’m more sad for you if anything
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it's not hyper sensitivity, I was just letting you know since your posts have been very uncomprehending. have a good day!
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webmeister posted:Fall of Civilizations is back! Two hours on the Nabataeans, builders of Petra It was pretty good imho. I didn't realize how relatively equal the Nabataeans were which was a really neat factoid.
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Anyone have a recommendation for a single episode or very short series that gives a good, lite overview of D-Day? I have a couple friends visiting Normandy who are not into mil-hist at all but would like an outline of events.
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glynnenstein posted:Anyone have a recommendation for a single episode or very short series that gives a good, lite overview of D-Day? I have a couple friends visiting Normandy who are not into mil-hist at all but would like an outline of events. Watch the longest day 
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Does anyone know of any podcasts on Prohibition? I can't watch the Ken Burns documentary without  because I'm not in the US.
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Violet_Sky posted:Does anyone know of any podcasts on Prohibition? I can't watch the Ken Burns documentary without Inward empire did two episodes about the pinkertons, that's the closest I can think of
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Lady Radia posted:Definitely get where you're coming from, but sounds like you just might not be familiar with modern white supremacists. Here's an alright-ish article to get started: https://www.salon.com/2021/03/08/why-white-supremacists-and-qanon-fans-are-obsessed-with-the-byzantine-empire_partner/ I'm sorry I just truly can't stop staring at this post. Even setting aside that this is literally just Salon going 'some morons on the internet said a thing' as if it's a massive movement, the start of this was being upset that a historical podcast was seen as 'rooting' for the Byzantines over the Normans? I'm not sure I'm a fan of the implications of the idea we should be somehow uneasy about pointing out the objectively correct side in that conflict because PepeFucker88 posted Deus Vult, especially when the implied alternative is being more nice to the famously violent zealot Normans who were the conquering force there! Just because PepeFucker is too dumb to know he'd be way more comfortable as a Norman doesn't mean 'I think this podcast about the Byzantines fighting off Norman invasion is a bit too pro Byzantines' is the way we need to go.
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End of an era, everyone. The final episode of Revolutions is up.
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Samovar posted:End of an era, everyone. The final episode of Revolutions is up. Yes now I can start listening to the final series! 
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I'm happy Mr. Duncan is going to make a new era of podcasts eventually and that he clearly still likes it, since everyone of us clearly still enjoys listening to them. The end of the last episode is the best summary of the cccp I've ever heard.
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Fckin Charles, man Doesn't he have audiobooks of his books in his narration? Maybe I'll get around to reading/listening to those
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sexpig by night posted:I'm sorry I just truly can't stop staring at this post. Even setting aside that this is literally just Salon going 'some morons on the internet said a thing' as if it's a massive movement, the start of this was being upset that a historical podcast was seen as 'rooting' for the Byzantines over the Normans? I'm not sure I'm a fan of the implications of the idea we should be somehow uneasy about pointing out the objectively correct side in that conflict because PepeFucker88 posted Deus Vult, especially when the implied alternative is being more nice to the famously violent zealot Normans who were the conquering force there! Just because PepeFucker is too dumb to know he'd be way more comfortable as a Norman doesn't mean 'I think this podcast about the Byzantines fighting off Norman invasion is a bit too pro Byzantines' is the way we need to go. feeling not even a little uncomfortable when someone is talking about how he wishes the Byzantines conquered a bunch of Muslim areas 100 years earlier is a powerful emotional move, but you do you, buddy. sounds like some introspection is needed as to why this touched such a nerve Samovar posted:End of an era, everyone. The final episode of Revolutions is up.  man. Man. What a final episode.
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It's a goodie. Now it's over and I'm sad. Really curious what his new chapter will be. Got absolutely no idea.
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knowing him so far i'd guess some historical figures he finds genuinely interesting and influential, maybe titled like "Great Them of History" or something ok that started as a half joke but now i kinda want it
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I got however many episodes in before I decided to Just Wait, so I appreciate someone telling me I can finally go back. I'll always wish he'd handled the Cuban Revolution, but I guess it would always be that way about one of them. The Inward Empire creator was a grad student and is just going to be very sporadic and or just stop one day, yeah?
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Didn't he say he wanted to do something on the Crisis of the Third Century? Or was that Patrick Wyman?
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Confusedslight posted:It's a goodie. Now it's over and I'm sad. Really curious what his new chapter will be. Got absolutely no idea. Whatever it is I'm looking forward to him being 200+ episodes into a 12 episode series.
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PittTheElder posted:Didn't he say he wanted to do something on the Crisis of the Third Century? Or was that Patrick Wyman? The next book is about Aurelian. Wyman's series after prehistory is on origins of Rome and China.
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Jack B Nimble posted:The Inward Empire creator was a grad student and is just going to be very sporadic and or just stop one day, yeah? From a blog post he wrote a while back, he took an unscheduled and indetermined lenght hiatus for mental self care right about when covid started. There will hopefully be more eventually someday, but no guarantees. I have a personal connection to VN and it can't be repeated enough how those 5 episodes are the best of the best.
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Lady Radia posted:feeling not even a little uncomfortable when someone is talking about how he wishes the Byzantines conquered a bunch of Muslim areas 100 years earlier is a powerful emotional move, but you do you, buddy. sounds like some introspection is needed as to why this touched such a nerve Lol saying this in this thread and expecting no one to laugh at you is a power move
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I am going to keep mentioning the "history of US political parties" idea that Mike Duncan floated on Twitter a year or two ago until enough other people see it and also start repeating it.
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Violet_Sky posted:Does anyone know of any podcasts on Prohibition? I can't watch the Ken Burns documentary without Check out the audiobook of Daniel Okrent's Last Call - that's the book that Burns basically adapted for the documentary.
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Anyone got recommendations for podcasts about all the crazy cultural, political, and religious stuff going on in the late 60's and the 70s?
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Vinny Possum posted:Anyone got recommendations for podcasts about all the crazy cultural, political, and religious stuff going on in the late 60's and the 70s? Not a podcast, but Rick Perlstein’s 4 books on the rise of the modern conservative movement in audiobook form are great for this period. Primarily through the lens of the rise of Goldwater, Nixon and Reagan, but plenty of detail on the religious right, campus riots, etc. Before the Storm Nixonland The Invisible Bridge Reaganland
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Vinny Possum posted:Anyone got recommendations for podcasts about all the crazy cultural, political, and religious stuff going on in the late 60's and the 70s? Know Your Enemy is a podcast that covers how the American right got to where it is now, with a lot of focus on the right-wing intellectual and religious movements from the 1950s on.
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