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MikeJF posted:They can recrystalise. In Disco continuously recrystalising what little dilithium they had was all that was keeping them going, but it wasn't infinitely sustainable. It was also that you could maintain what you had, but having a single recrystalizing engine's worth of Dilithium only gives you a single working engine. You still need more Dilithium to recrystalize in the first place.
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In TNG they could literally synthesize more Dilithium.
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Pfft I did that poo poo as a kid
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CainFortea posted:In TNG they could literally synthesize more Dilithium. Could they? I only ever remember them taking about recrystalising.
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If they could synthesise dilithium, they wouldn't need to send all those EMHs to the mines
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Brawnfire posted:Pfft I did that poo poo as a kid That rules. Could you smoke any of them
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Dabir posted:If they could synthesise dilithium, they wouldn't need to send all those EMHs to the mines "Gotta do somethin' with 'em! Well, I guess. If I'm forthright, we've not given them much consideration since initiating slaves.exe." [sips Rigellian scotch] "Oh, would you look at the time, I've got a Xenological Rights Commission meeting coming up. I'm accepting an award." davidspackage posted:That rules. You weren't meant to, but you try keeping Riker from freebasing your ryetalyn.
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People talk a lot of poo poo about DS9 ruining Gene’s vision or whatever but god that 30 second EMH slave mines bit in Voyager is pretty loving dark
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MikeJF posted:Could they? I only ever remember them taking about recrystallizing. They could synthesize dilithium from recrystallizing it apparently. I also had to look up what caused the Burn again, and  I forgot that all the dilithium in the GALAXY became inert because a Kelpian was really upset that his mother died.
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-Gun avatar -"I had sex" -Calls partner His Woman -Public foot-fetishism Just masterfully awful.
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MakaVillian posted:They could synthesize dilithium from recrystallizing it apparently. But see, the burn and it’s cause weren’t even that silly of an idea. It was just the ludicrous scale of it that make it incomprehensibly dumb. The writers just needed to think a bit more about it. How to make the burn better, by a goon thinking for more than 90 seconds: 1. Kelpian kid screams for his mom real hard on the dilithium planet, causing a sector-wide disaster. 2. The sector becomes impossible to traverse via warp, and those within it are cut off and have no idea the extent or scope of the effect. 3. Those outside of it can’t detect anything due to sub-space reasons, and think all is lost and mark it as a no-man’s land. 4. Disco happens to land in this “irradiated” sector and most of the season plays out as shown. 5. …Except they’re able somehow reverse the effects and the grand finale is a super-advanced Federation welcoming this lost island of space back into the fold. Still not excellent but drat it only needed a little tweaking.
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it sort of needs to be a broken down federation because otherwise they'd simply send discovery back to its own time immediately. if things were any better there'd be no use for this ancient mushroom ship filled with crying idiots.
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^^^Disco can't go back in time because it has "Sphere Data" which is something something something I can't be assed to look it up but it was important in Season 2 and I think it led to Control or somethingHD DAD posted:But see, the burn and it’s cause weren’t even that silly of an idea. It was just the ludicrous scale of it that make it incomprehensibly dumb. The writers just needed to think a bit more about it. Congrats, you've written one episode. We're gonna need 9 more.
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If they really needed something that fucks space up so warp drive doesn't work anymore the omega particle was right there
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PostNouveau posted:^^^Disco can't go back in time because it has "Sphere Data" which is something something something I can't be assed to look it up but it was important in Season 2 and I think it led to Control or something Last season of Disco was one episode stretched into 10. So I don't see why that's not a full season.
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The General posted:Last season of Disco was one episode stretched into 10. So I don't see why that's not a full season.
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Ok but if you gently caress it up completely so nobody but the super special main character ship can travel, you're doing Star Control 3. You don't want to do Star Control 3.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It was actually 13 episodes, and I would say that by far it was the closest I've come to just being done with the show entirely To be fair, if those 13 episodes would have been a two parter, it would have been a pretty alright Trek episode.
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The General posted:To be fair, if those 13 episodes would have been a two parter, it would have been a pretty alright Trek episode.
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Dabir posted:Ok but if you gently caress it up completely so nobody but the super special main character ship can travel, you're doing Star Control 3. You don't want to do Star Control 3. Oh man if Disco had emerged 900 years into the future and it was Star Control 2? Best Star Trek of the generation right there.
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I just finished Disco Season 4, and I'm pretty sure you could have just watched the last 2 episodes of Seasons 3 and 4 as long as you paid real close attention to the "previously on" segments
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FlamingLiberal posted:It was actually 13 episodes, and I would say that by far it was the closest I've come to just being done with the show entirely This is why I will never take the word of anyone ITT regarding the supposed quality of a new Star Trek show.
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infernal machines posted:This is why I will never take the word of anyone ITT regarding the supposed quality of a new Star Trek show. Except SNW. It’s actually very good. Season is almost done and the worst it’s been has been one or two “merely solid” episodes.
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The kelpian had been gestated in a dilithium nursery and had a chimeroid mutation that caused him himself to take on aspects of dilithium and his emotional state produced a resonance cascade effect spiraling outwards magnified by the high amounts of nearby radiation and dilithium.
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if they gotta get lost somewhere how about they get lost in mushroom space, and are now exploring a world totally unlike our own, trying to get home
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See that would take creativity though Can't have that
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HD DAD posted:Except SNW. It’s actually very good. Season is almost done and the worst it’s been has been one or two “merely solid” episodes. "Very good" only in relation to Picard. Compared to all the rest of trek it's fine.
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infernal machines posted:This is why I will never take the word of anyone ITT regarding the supposed quality of a new Star Trek show. At least with SNW there are many people who completely checked out of Trek due to the last few shows saying this one is actually good, and I haven't noticed anyone saying stuff about it like "hey this plot makes no sense/where did that character come from/the camera won't stop doing 360s/why is everyone always drunk and crying?" It seems to be well received so far, which is refreshing to read about honestly. I do take the opinions of those who willingly sat through all of Discovery and PicardShow with a grain of salt though since best case scenario that demonstrates poor impulse control, lol
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Tighclops posted:At least with SNW there are many people who completely checked out of Trek due to the last few shows saying this one is actually good, and I haven't noticed anyone saying stuff about it like "hey this plot makes no sense/where did that character come from/the camera won't stop doing 360s/why is everyone always drunk and crying?" It seems to be well received so far, which is refreshing to read about honestly. I got fooled by Picard Season 1. Not again!
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Man Author Author is a pretty good episode, huh Sure the court scenes are pretty derivative of Measure of a Man, but it takes a very different path to get to them, I think it would be unfair to call it a straight retread
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Dabir posted:Man Author Author is a pretty good episode, huh
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The Doctor was a hardlight man who had to make hardlight choices
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John Wick of Dogs posted:The kelpian had been gestated in a dilithium nursery and had a chimeroid mutation that caused him himself to take on aspects of dilithium and his emotional state produced a resonance cascade effect spiraling outwards magnified by the high amounts of nearby radiation and dilithium. Seems like they shouldn't do that or that one or more dilithium babies would at some point suffer a trauma at any given point in their life and maybe do this like all the time. Which doesn't seem great, necessarily.
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Dabir posted:Man Author Author is a pretty good episode, huh I've started rewatching Voyager for the first time in years and I was very surprised how solid the first season was. Even season 2 has been decent so far.
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Big Beef City posted:Seems like they shouldn't do that or that one or more dilithium babies would at some point suffer a trauma at any given point in their life and maybe do this like all the time. Which doesn't seem great, necessarily. The technobabble and roundabout/haphazard plots in Disco were quite literally the most labour-intensive lazy writing. Lazy in that they just joined random words together to make a plot. Labour-intensive in that they used way too many random words. SNW on the other hand has plots that can be explained in a single sentence, and it allows them to focus on making them good instead of using 300m of red yarn to try and make them make sense.
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Disco lost me at the loving tardigrade
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MakaVillian posted:I've started rewatching Voyager for the first time in years and I was very surprised how solid the first season was. Even season 2 has been decent so far. I'm into Season 4, and I've reached the point where I'm annoyed at anyone who ever told me this show was bad and that I shouldn't watch it.
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Mr. Mercury posted:Disco lost me at the loving tardigrade A more alien alien was a cool idea. Is it sapient? We can't even tell. Why does a thing that grazes on mushrooms all day need giant claws know how to use them to exterminate a ship full of armed military personnel? 
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Facebook Aunt posted:A more alien alien was a cool idea. Is it sapient? We can't even tell.
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