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loup, my dog, you need to show us a game plan here this is basically the box ghost from danny phantom going "BEWARE" and running away
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Jun 24, 2022 22:01
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CodfishCartographer posted:Kind of weird loss.jpg energy from this page I do what I must 
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Jun 24, 2022 22:10
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I actually thought for a moment that, despite being basically an ether ghost, Reynard was still linked to his physical body and needed it to live and Loup just murdered Reynard. Instead it was just a big nothingburger that might lead to some angst, I guess, but as far as big scary gestures goes, this one was pretty empty.
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Jun 24, 2022 22:20
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Tiny Myers posted:I do what I must 
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Jun 24, 2022 22:29
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CodfishCartographer posted:Lmao I hadn't even considered that, why waste the time between the two encounters? Just have it happen during one. Like almost everything since Jeanne, it smacks of a lack of editing. We've all heard the theory about Tony being cut from the comic, but maybe it's just that Tom had crafted and recrafted the story up to that point with only a vague notion of how he'd proceed from there, and he's been sort of winging it since. That's not to say he doesn't know what will happen or have outlines, but pre-Jeanne it was usually very tight and on a reread it tends to flow very well. Ever since then there have been a lot of scenes which could have been cut, condensed, or merged, and ideas which come from or go to nowhere. Or maybe he just hit his head and forgot everything he knew about writing, or his dog ate his notes. Who knows!
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Tiny Myers posted:I do what I must Should've called it "Lost the plot"
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Since Coyote's ultimate plan requires Annie to hate Loup enough to kill him, is the plan working?
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I am surprised she didn't blast him. She is incredibly dangerous and her strongest allies were right there with no noncombatants in sight. Renard could probably instantly kill him by stealing his body even.
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worm girl posted:I am surprised she didn't blast him. She is incredibly dangerous and her strongest allies were right there with no noncombatants in sight. Renard could probably instantly kill him by stealing his body even. ... huh where did Parley and Eglamore go? Could Parley not just instant transmission behind Loup in the time he's taunting Annie and Reynard and drop kick him?
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Nuns with Guns posted:... huh where did Parley and Eglamore go? Could Parley not just instant transmission behind Loup in the time he's taunting Annie and Reynard and drop kick him? She might be (reasonably) afraid of being incinerated or impaled by a trickster god. But Annie doesn't exactly like Loup and has a ranged attack, yeah, as well as some reason to believe he wouldn't immediately murder her in return. It feels very "okay now just stand there and listen to the villain monologue and watch him do a bad thing while you say 'no don't' for no reason other than the author needs you to". Oh, I see. Annie couldn't attack because that would mean letting go of Renard, and she needed to be hugging him for the entire scene so Loup can see it and get jealous, because the plot needs Loup to be jealous, and Annie also needs to not do anything that might compromise Loup's affections for her, because then the weird jealous love triangle poo poo would fall apart. 
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Does Reynard have bones or is he a still squishy plush in every form How often does he get washed and does he prefer top- or side-loading washing machines
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The comic has implied before that even in realistic mode he's still technically plush, but he has the strength of a real wolf. I think. This may have changed since he became a familiar. I can get behind the idea that Annie still doesn't want to kill Loup, or that she thinks she wouldn't be able to hurt him and he'd kill everyone else if she tried, but if it was me I'd throw a fireball. worm girl fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Jun 26, 2022 |
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blastron posted:Does Reynard have bones or is he a still squishy plush in every form He's part plush, part lockpicks for sure.
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Tiny Myers posted:She might be (reasonably) afraid of being incinerated or impaled by a trickster god. But Annie doesn't exactly like Loup and has a ranged attack, yeah, as well as some reason to believe he wouldn't immediately murder her in return. It feels very "okay now just stand there and listen to the villain monologue and watch him do a bad thing while you say 'no don't' for no reason other than the author needs you to". It'd be reasonable to be afraid, even with the instant teleporting, but she and Eglamore are also the trained bodyguards + monster slayers of the Court and it's strange everyone's trapped in some cutscene paralysis while this is all going down. There's just been something off about how the secondary characters seem to phase in and out of existence in these recent chapters, only appearing to quickly give exposition or set something up and then they walk offstage again. I guess that's always been there, to a degree, but there's a couple major ongoing crises now and it seems like a great time to up the stakes by showing how everyone doing different risky things to resolve it. I guess maybe it's a byproduct of trying to wrap things up faster?
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I can really relate to Eglamore here.
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Nuns with Guns posted:There's just been something off about how the secondary characters seem to phase in and out of existence in these recent chapters, only appearing to quickly give exposition or set something up and then they walk offstage again. I guess that's always been there, to a degree, There's always been some amount of distance to allow Annie to be the protagonist, but still, think about the Shadow Men chasing Jack down, or the response to the boat incident. The writing used to account for the fact that there are other characters around who care what happens and have the power to do anything about it. Where's the headmaster? The staff? Why are the children still in this supernatural war zone and not shipped back to their home countries? Where are the parents? What is Eglamore even doing? Why is Loup still terrorizing everyone? It's like every character in the story stepped off screen and put all their plans on hold so that Kat could make an entire race of robots and give them superpowers real quick because oops that needed to get done before the story can move forward.
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worm girl posted:Why are the children still in this supernatural war zone and not shipped back to their home countries? Actually yeah lmao what the gently caress I mean I guess you can argue they aren't able to leave the barrier because they'll risk being attacked? Kind of feel like a lot of kids would be like "I wanna go home" anyway??? It's a little weird it hasn't been brought up.
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if the plot was going to dramatically raise the emotional stakes by emphasizing Loup's destructive power and the god part of being a trickster god, I feel like there were earlier opportunities to do so not taken, and there'd be no reason to take it now come to think of it, it would have provided a better anchor for why the Retrospective Annie narrative voice slips into Present Annie, especially once the emotional weight and narrative impact of "Father is returned" is chipped away by subsequent events (e.g. we are right back to Annie doing basically whatever she likes without accountability) ronya fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Jun 27, 2022 |
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Well yeah Loup blew it up
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Tiny Myers posted:Actually yeah lmao what the gently caress i always assumed the court and forest exist in a shared closed system with similar strange rules to Ohtori Academy. like through ether-amplified trauma, abuse, and social control it forms a space you can check out any time you like but never leave.
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CYBEReris posted:i always assumed the court and forest exist in a shared closed system with similar strange rules to Ohtori Academy. like through ether-amplified trauma, abuse, and social control it forms a space you can check out any time you like but never leave. People leave all the time for vacations, and to watch a puppy drown.
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Bonster posted:People leave all the time for vacations, and to watch a puppy drown. that's what I mean by "check out at any time but never leave". people walk out of the court all the time but it has the effect of pulling people back into it through their attachments as if smitty were tugging on one of his strings, the most visible and obvious person to experience this being Tony. it's definitely not inescapable but it's a strong enough force to be notable.
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I'm really perplexed by Annie's comment. Girl did you not see his body get reduced to ash 10 seconds ago???
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Her best friend makes artifical living bodies all the time so idk
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A big flaming stink posted:I'm really perplexed by Annie's comment. Girl did you not see his body get reduced to ash 10 seconds ago??? yeah but they can probably still collect the ashes so no harm no foul
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Also to be fair, this would be a tragic event and Annie almost certainly hasn't fully accepted the loss. Well, assuming that this is as tragic as the story seems to want us to think it is
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GunnerJ posted:Her best friend makes artifical living bodies all the time so idk Yeah I'll be really surprised if this doesn't end up with Renard getting a human-like robot body.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:yeah but they can probably still collect the ashes so no harm no foul Just gotta collect up his charred skeleton and ashes, put them in a coffinand have his six closest vampire buddies vomit their blood into the casket. Bada boom, bada bing, bada Lestat, your body's good as new AND your suicidal ennui is cured!
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CodfishCartographer posted:Also to be fair, this would be a tragic event and Annie almost certainly hasn't fully accepted the loss. yeah uh wasn't the whole significance of his old body that Coyote had preserved it in the hopes that he would come back for it one day, which Renard had showed less than zero inclination to do? As presented it reads like mourning when an ex burns the hosed up little shrine he made to you years after you moved out A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jun 27, 2022 |
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Yeah, so far Annie has shown far more attachment and sentimentality towards the body than Renard has. There's just... zero setup here beyond "yeah I GUESS it makes sense he'd be sad about that, if you think about it". Which is not exactly the kind of emotional stakes (or lack thereof) you want attached to a scene like this. Growing increasingly attached to the concept of "this is some kind of meta poo poo where Loup took over the story and has been writing fanfiction this whole time".
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Are we missing the chapters where the main body is emotionally significant?
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Tiny Myers posted:Growing increasingly attached to the concept of "this is some kind of meta poo poo where Loup took over the story and has been writing fanfiction this whole time". if only it hadn't been bad before all of this.
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CodfishCartographer posted:Also to be fair, this would be a tragic event and Annie almost certainly hasn't fully accepted the loss. The thing that's still making this hard for me to accept is the moment that Loup burns Renard's old bodies. These facial expressions:  I'm not getting "Loup is about to do something tremendously bad" out of those facial expressions. Heck, Renard's looks more like he's being drawn in a more cartoony style to emphasize something comedic. It's like putting the Flintstones running sound over a horror movie chase scene or something, it's just tonal whiplash for me.
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GunnerJ posted:Her best friend makes artifical living bodies all the time so idk This is only allowed if Kat makes his body a fox kemonomimi.
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Fox boys are in this year.
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Tiny Myers posted:Growing increasingly attached to the concept of "this is some kind of meta poo poo where Loup took over the story and has been writing fanfiction this whole time".
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There is an episode of Adventure Time that ends with a reveal that it was just the Ice King writing fanfiction and it's such an incredible punchline.
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XkyRauh posted:Homestuck?! In my Gunnerkrigg!? Young, capricious lordling who is far less intimidating than the more powerful antagonist he is derived from, who was foreshadowed to be the real threat for most of the comic Having to sit through multiple slogs of him painfully interacting with several women in a way that reveals his lack of experience with social interaction, immaturity, and contempt for humanity He has some weird antiquated misogyny going on Violent as a solution to all of his problems Comic started to get a lot more agonizing to read and dubiously characterized around the part where he came in An interesting alternate universe version of a character was abruptly dumpstered from the comic for what felt like no reason Comic's writing may have been derailed by the writer paying too much attention to the fanbase Various things that were foreshadowed in the past as important either never come up or are resolved in an unsatisfyingly tidy fashion Irritating pacing where it seems like something is finally going to happen and then everything grinds to a halt, as if to purposely frustrate the reader Random exhausting conversations that are just paragraphs of characters talking over each other while we're begging for something to happen 
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Tiny Myers posted:Young, capricious lordling who is far less intimidating than the more powerful antagonist he is derived from, who was foreshadowed to be the real threat for most of the comic Holy poo poo 
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