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The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

abigserve posted:

I think another way to frame my issue is "why does it take 80 hours to tell a story in a videogame"

Like I don't have an issue with Elden ring being massive because to an extent you don't have to finish it to enjoy it. But TLOU, red dead...these games are carried by stories that are paced so incredibly poorly because some dumbfuck idiot decided to make them 5x the length they needed to be and you can't NOT finish them.

Ive put 60 hours into Sifu because it's so fun to beat the poo poo out of people and it never feels like the game is going long because I completed it 40 hours ago. Enter the gungeon is another prime example.

Sifu owns really hard and I'd recommend it to anyone who watches a trailer and thinks "that looks cool", but I felt pretty much zero motivation to keep playing once I had beaten it. Perfect game to release a few weeks before Elden Ring.

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Ocean Book
Sep 27, 2010

:yum: - hi

Tunicate posted:

you mean a flight simulator?

yeah


Rutibex posted:

If you wanna play gran foriza maybe you should have got an X-Station. switch is for Mario kart and your gonna like it :colbert:

i refuse to sit up while playing video games

giogadi posted:

Honestly great question. I’ve been playing Art of Rally - it’s super barebones and it takes a tinkering with controls to feel good, but I find it fun and relaxing. Wish there more than like 2 people on the daily leaderboard, lol

thanks! looks cute and fun :)

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I only play like two, maybe three, games with any regularity because my life is busy. I think I saw the graph where I played Destiny 2 (my main squeeze) for a whopping three hours at once, with 0 hours spent for days either side.

Clocking up 1000+ hours is not something I've ever done, but I stick with games that are familiar and fun, and I don't have the time to chase every new shiny that comes along. So I just play two or three for honestly a few years at least, with mild divergences into some fun small games.

I think I spend less time playing games a week than the average length of a pretentious video essay on video games.

Edit: saying that, I also really like video games and think they rule.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

The only games I played more than a thousand hours I also leave running for super long times. FF14, for example. Most of that is spent keeping it up in the back waiting on queues to pop, and Total War Warhammer 1/2/3 which is mostly spent hitting “end turn”, browsing the forums for 5 minutes, then playing my turn.

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

Ocean Book posted:

yeah

i refuse to sit up while playing video games

thanks! looks cute and fun :)

Do not play expecting tight controls and a bug free experience

Ocean Book
Sep 27, 2010

:yum: - hi
mostly i want to hold a and press left and right sometimes

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



FF14 was cool I played a catboy

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

FF14 was cool I played a catboy

How hot was it

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!
lol, Vampire Survivors is a lot of fun. strongly recommended.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
yeah, i'm about to beat red earth using the sexy lion

edit: cursed with having a cool rear end lion head and rippling abs. wish i got cursed like that

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



jokes posted:

How hot was it

It was autumn when I played

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Harrow posted:

It's "normal" in the sense that it's relatively common, especially for people who have like One Game they ever actually play (which is relatively common with more casual gamers). It might not be common for someone to stack up 1000 hours of a game in a year but there are plenty of people who've played that much LoL or something over the last decade and barely ever play other games at all. This gets even more common if you count things like FIFA which technically releases a new game every year but is it really a different game for anything other than "give us more money" purposes?

Whether it's good or not is a different question

Also p sure it's incredibly common for Minecraft and such

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
Most people who play games only play a few games, maybe even only 1 and the smallest group of gamers are the middle aged guys chasing every novel experience offered to then

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
You definitely see different habits from when you're a kid playing whatever's available to you depending on what your parents buy or what channels you have access to, then a teenager with more agency and incentive to figure out how to pirate while also near unlimited free time, and then an adult.

Also reminds me how achievements caused game publishers to lose their poo poo for a generation with how few customers actually finish games, and so they made games try to drag you to the credits by any means possible.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
I'm starting to really get into heroes of the storm, it's a shame they haven't bit the bullet and made all the hero's free because running about a moba as Diablo or Tassadar is pretty cool

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Ghost Leviathan posted:

You definitely see different habits from when you're a kid playing whatever's available to you depending on what your parents buy or what channels you have access to, then a teenager with more agency and incentive to figure out how to pirate while also near unlimited free time, and then an adult.

Also reminds me how achievements caused game publishers to lose their poo poo for a generation with how few customers actually finish games, and so they made games try to drag you to the credits by any means possible.

Achievements are one of the worst things to happen to video games.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
Yeah when you forget about microtransactions, dlc, constant re-releases, assassins creed games, mobas and the Nintendo switch then I guess acheivements are the worst

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

JollyBoyJohn posted:

Yeah when you forget about microtransactions, dlc, constant re-releases, assassins creed games, mobas and the Nintendo switch then I guess acheivements are the worst

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Good thing I never said they were THE worst then. :v:

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
What’s so bad about cheevo’s exactly? They can be fun little challenges to beat, or you can ignore them. They don’t affect the gameplay in any way. It’s like complaining about high scores. If you can’t enjoy Galaga because AAA and rear end have higher numbers than you that’s your problem.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I think the inference is more not that it's about Achievements per se but publishers getting real weird ideas from seeing metrics of how people apparently play games and its possible connection to how the Xbox 360 ushered in basically a lost decade for game design.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
nintendo switch rules. im playing knights of the old republic on a handheld! I though this never see the day. what a world

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I think the inference is more not that it's about Achievements per se but publishers getting real weird ideas from seeing metrics of how people apparently play games and its possible connection to how the Xbox 360 ushered in basically a lost decade for game design.

What was a “lost decade” about the 360 era? There were good trends and bad trends same as any other.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Achievements arent the main source of developer info about games now a days. Remember when companies released death spots that killed the most players or what choices players made at character creation? Thats the tip of the data iceberg

TBH achievements are really useful to your competitors looking to figure out interaction with your title since thats public facing data

giogadi
Oct 27, 2009

Rutibex posted:

nintendo switch rules. im playing knights of the old republic on a handheld! I though this never see the day. what a world

Does it hold up? I’ve never played it so I have no nostalgia goggles

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


the 360 era being a lost decade for game design is a terrible take.

games changed so much from the start of that gen to the end, for the better. especially multiplayer gaming came on leaps and bounds throughout.

yeah it's easy to just think it was all a bunch of grey/brown third person shooters but there was so much more than that going on lol.

Redezga
Dec 14, 2006

I'm a little fond of the grey and brown games. It never took anything away from any game I've ever played, and in many instances lended a lot of character to some really pretty world.

I'd actually say I even have a bit of nostalgia for it. NieR Replicant is very much greens, greys and browns and I just found it a really relaxing world to be in.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
Jumping ship from ps2 to x360 is the best gamer decision I ever made

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you
I think the proper criticism of the 360 era visually should be less "brown and grey" and more "why does everything look like it's been rubbed with lumpy gravy"

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

JollyBoyJohn posted:

Jumping ship from ps2 to x360 is the best gamer decision I ever made

this but jumping from PS4 to Series S

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

I haven't had a console since the ps3, are the newer generations as fuckin loud as the 360 and ps3 were?

if I'm buyin a console just to play games in my living room, I want it to be quiet as a mouse. make it bigger and heavier, I don't give a poo poo

Vic
Nov 26, 2009

malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

hawowanlawow posted:

I haven't had a console since the ps3, are the newer generations as fuckin loud as the 360 and ps3 were?

if I'm buyin a console just to play games in my living room, I want it to be quiet as a mouse. make it bigger and heavier, I don't give a poo poo

You'd have to go for a custom build pc

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

luxury cars can dampen road noise and engine noise at 80mph to nothing but the $1000 consoles can't get quiet enough to watch a movie

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

hawowanlawow posted:

I haven't had a console since the ps3, are the newer generations as fuckin loud as the 360 and ps3 were?

if I'm buyin a console just to play games in my living room, I want it to be quiet as a mouse. make it bigger and heavier, I don't give a poo poo

The PS5's pretty quiet, don't know about series x/s

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

giogadi posted:

Does it hold up? I’ve never played it so I have no nostalgia goggles

Knights of the old republic hold up really good, its easily same tier as Baldurs Gate. every problem has multiple solution. the graphics are a bit dated but not distractingly so. the music and voice acting is still top tier even by todays standards

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

satanic splash-back posted:

20mg extended release is 20mg twice, once immediately, once hours later. Of course the 40mg at once does more.

Maybe you don't know what you're talking about?

In regards to dosage, not everything.

That would be a mislabeled drug. There is 20mg of amphetamine in a 20mg pill regardless of how it’s buffered

Edit: sorry this is way old and off topic. I meant to say the original doom + porno.wad is probably the greatest game ever made.

Internet Old One fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jun 28, 2022

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Rutibex posted:

Knights of the old republic [...] its easily same tier as Baldurs Gate.

I agree, Knights of the Old Republic is an awful game with terribly implemented mechanics! :v:

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
knights of the old republic is in no way an awful game but its almost 20 years old, if you have no nostalgia goggles then it's been bettered

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Harrow posted:

The PS5's pretty quiet, don't know about series x/s

even when it's literally 90 degrees in my apartment and i play Horizon for 6 hours straight, my series S makes less noise than any console i've ever had. i've actually never even heard the fan at all. i have to put my head right next to it to be able to even know it's on

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Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



JollyBoyJohn posted:

knights of the old republic is in no way an awful game but its almost 20 years old, if you have no nostalgia goggles then it's been bettered

It was bad 20 years ago and is a prime example of how Bioware has never made a good game.

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