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Some cool loyalist boiz
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 06:24 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:21 |
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Any recommendations on outfitting and collecting Iron Warriors? I am a bit lost.
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 09:24 |
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Robots and shooting, their bolters are shorter range but have pinning which is amazing for shutting down enemies
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 11:07 |
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Are there any differences between the different marks of armor, or is it just that "historically" certain Legions preferred different armors, and gameplay wise, they're all the same?
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 12:03 |
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Gameplay wise, mk ii - mk vi are all the same. Artificer armor is ornate suits of any mark and give a 2+. There are differences for terminator armor, Tartaros being faster but less protective than cataphractii. Lorewise, there are some preferences (DG and IW leaning towards mk III, Raven guard having lots of mk vi), but every legion had enough of every mk of armor that you could do any legion in any mk and still be 'lore accurate'. the_seventh_cohort fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Jun 26, 2022 |
# ? Jun 26, 2022 12:52 |
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If I want my Mk3 dudes to be my heavy weapon dudes, are the forge world Ryza lascannons the ones to use? Related: are squads of 10 lascannon dudes good in this edition? Seems so because of how nasty dreadnoughts are.
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 13:59 |
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The forgeworld ones would work great, although if the plastic heavy weapons kit with the lascannon is like the other boxes, they could be converted to work with mk III or iv with minimal effort.
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 14:35 |
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the_seventh_cohort posted:Lorewise, there are some preferences (DG and IW leaning towards mk III, Raven guard having lots of mk vi), but every legion had enough of every mk of armor that you could do any legion in any mk and still be 'lore accurate'. Another thing is that even at 3500pts, your army is such an insignificantly small part of the legion (notable exceptions: 1K Sons after Prospero, RG, Sallies, IH post Istvann), so your MK6 IWs might just be all the MK6s left in the legion.
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 19:52 |
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BULBASAUR posted:Some cool loyalist boiz
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 19:58 |
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:If I want my Mk3 dudes to be my heavy weapon dudes, are the forge world Ryza lascannons the ones to use? 10 lascannons are absolutely legit this edition and HS support squads are probably the cheapest way to pack them in Froghammer posted:Keep using Kruleboy shields plz I got 30+ of em. Painted up like WS they'll sell the oni look, imo
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 20:34 |
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Kharnifex posted:Any recommendations on outfitting and collecting Iron Warriors? I am a bit lost. Also regarding the preferences for armour, I saw someone else say that doing something you don't want to do and complaining about it is peak Iron Warriors so MKVI armour should be fine for all of their armies and I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 21:30 |
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Iron Warriors have some of the sickest looking unique units in the game. It would be a crime to play them and not field Tyrants and an Iron Circle maniple. Otherwise just try to build something that feels fluffy and cool. 30k is basically historicals and imo it is the most fun when you and your friends are all invested in the narrative.
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# ? Jun 26, 2022 21:57 |
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Thanks lads, I do have one Circle of Iron Robbit, and some custom space crusade dreadnoughts I had sculpted privately for 40k scale, im hoping I can proxy them as something. I also have some kind of horus heresy dread with all kinds of crazy weapons on it. I'll post up some progress pics at some stage. (not sure if its even able to be used as something for IW but oh well) edit: ok so the dread seems to be a knock off leviathan, and i have the following, what should i rip the arms off and replace them with, also, normal marine base sizes? terminator? I have an unopened AOD box set, Kratos and Deimos, as well, I can modify these back to thunder hammer and shields, These are normal short arse marines, they seem to be on 32mm? bases, should I just outfit them all with rotarys? If i use my space crusade dread as a proxy dread, what size base would you recommend? any recommendations on what i outfit these guys with? thunder warriors 10 primaris sized guys, with a mix of stuff Kharnifex fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Jun 27, 2022 |
# ? Jun 27, 2022 00:55 |
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What's the minimum recommend points size and board size for ZM? And maybe a recommended org chart restriction? Like Combat Patrol levels of ZM. 500 points, 2x2, 1 HQ, 1 Troop, 1 something else? I'd like to craft up a minimum viable board and opposing force to let my friends play a bit with me.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 14:34 |
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Jack B Nimble posted:What's the minimum recommend points size and board size for ZM? And maybe a recommended org chart restriction? Like Combat Patrol levels of ZM. You pretty much hit it in one. At 500 points you may want to plan ZM board with some more open spaces than the classic resin FW/card Necromunda tiles, though.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 15:59 |
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Jack B Nimble posted:What's the minimum recommend points size and board size for ZM? And maybe a recommended org chart restriction? Like Combat Patrol levels of ZM. Thats exactly the minimum points and board size for ZM. All points sizes use the same force org chart, with 1HQ 1 troop minimum, and 1 HQ, 4 troops, 2 elites, 2 fast attack, 1 heavy support, and 1 primarch optional
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 16:04 |
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Cool, I was just guessing but HH is enough like older Warhammer that I could at least make an educated guess. If anyone has played at this level and has any recommendations for further restrictions, I'd appreciate it.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 17:35 |
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Got my box & started slamming guys together. First two things are my praetors:
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 17:50 |
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Zuul the Cat posted:Got my box & started slamming guys together. First two things are my praetors: Where are the helmets and shield from? Those look nice.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 17:59 |
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The Deathwing Companions kit, I got the bits off ebay.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 18:05 |
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Alpha Legion, Headhunter Leviathal RoW Praetor Armillus Dynat 5x Lernaean Termies 5x Lernaean Termies 5x Cata Termies 5x Cata Termies Contemptor 10x Tac Marines 10x Tac Marines 10x Tac Marines 10x Headhunter Kill Team 10x Headhunter Kill Team 10x Headhunter Kill Team 10x Headhunter Kill Team Kratos with autocannon That should be around 3k pts. Thoughts? It's mostly "make the best of what I have", assuming I can kitbash a Dynat.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 20:47 |
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Count Thrashula posted:Alpha Legion, Headhunter Leviathal RoW Ditch the Termies and take more Contemptors, they're pretty much better in every way.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 20:51 |
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Count Thrashula posted:Alpha Legion, Headhunter Leviathal RoW My general list building advice is to avoid taking duplicate units unless you have a specific role in mind. Obviously this is a Headhunter Leviathal so you'll have a lot of those, but typically there isn't a single unit that does everything well. So with that in mind, what are the other duplicate units doing in your list.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 00:00 |
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I know that it's a "make the most of my collection" list, but I play Alpha Legion so I have some more specific thoughts and directions to explore. It's a lot of words, but what else am I gonna do, work?
And of course, no list is set in stone. If you have all this stuff built, ya may as well try it a couple times and see what you like and don't like and go from there.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 12:55 |
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This is what I'm currently toying with for AL (Headhunter Leviathal): Alpharius Exodus Centurion: Master of Signals, Nemesis Bolter Contemptor Dreadnought with Gravis Lascannon Contemptor Dreadnought with Gravis Lascannon 10x Lernaean Terminator Squad w/ 2x Conversion Beam Cannons Dedicated Transport: Legion Land Raider Spartan with Searchlight Legion Apothecarion Legion Tactical Squad with Artificier Armor Sergeant Dedicated Transport: Legion Rhino with Multi-melta Legion Tactical Squad with Artificier Armor Sergeant Dedicated Transport: Legion Rhino with Multi-melta 10x Headhunter Kill Team with Artificer Armor Sergeant 10x Headhunter Kill Team with Artificer Armor Sergeant 5x Legion Heavy Support Squad with Lascannons I don't think Alpharius is actually very good but I like how he looks and want to try him out. He gives all three squads in dedicated transports Deep Strike. The Master of Signals seems essential to make it much more likely all my boys show up turn 2. The other list I'm bandying around in my head is really crazy: I'm considering running a Loyalist Headhunter Leviathal detachment with a Mobius Configuration praetor, Exodus and a Vigilator, and then an allied Raven Guard Decapitation Strike detachment that's really low to the ground with a Delegatus to unlock the RoW, a single squad of tactical marines, and a squad of Mor Deythan with Nemesis Bolters. gently caress your characters (and I get +4 bonus VP if I kill your warlord). Interested in any thoughts on these because I’ve never played any 30k before! DAD LOST MY IPOD fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Jun 28, 2022 |
# ? Jun 28, 2022 13:20 |
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I made a basic spread sheet to cross check a 30k army against a 40k army, both using the HH boxed set (and some weapon boxes). Does the HH portion seem legal? Also, I'd welcome any advice or commentary on the troop choices.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 15:24 |
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Jack B Nimble posted:I made a basic spread sheet to cross check a 30k army against a 40k army, both using the HH boxed set (and some weapon boxes). Does the HH portion seem legal? Also, I'd welcome any advice or commentary on the troop choices. In HH your Support and Heavy Support Squad sergeants are going to be equipped with the same weapon as the rest of the squad, unlike 40k Devastator squads. Otherwise, I believe that checks out.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 15:59 |
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Hmmm. I can make that change in 30k and then that Sargeant just becomes another devastator in 40k, with one of the Bolt Rifle Marines becoming the Sargent in 40k. So that should work!
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Stasis missiles seem dumb but neat, is there a use case? Unsure if the leadership test is something I can rely on or if Dark Angels have a reliable way to lower leadership. Stasis missile a squad and then hit them with a moderately punchy unit seems like a fun combo. Also, are chain bayonets any good? They look cool and I'm probably going to take them because of that, but it'd be nice if the points were also worth it Thinking of running a Stormwing army like this:
It's basically what I can field out of my AoD & BoC boxes combined. If I need to take it to 3k I've got the 15 Cata Termies and a Spartan, but I'm not as much of a fan of those.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 16:47 |
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Nancy posted:Also, are chain bayonets any good? They look cool and I'm probably going to take them because of that, but it'd be nice if the points were also worth it If the unit is going to get into close combat at all, they're extremely worth it. +1S and Shred mean you're going to be wounding significantly more against other Marines, and since losing combat often gets your entire unit run down and killed, it matters a lot.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 17:28 |
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Also, in the case of the big boxed set, I don't think there are any dedicated hand to hand units except for possible configurations of the terminators and dreadnought, so you may well be asking those tactical Marines to go into melee.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 17:40 |
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Endman posted:I took a silly cinematic shot of my Word Bearers: Goddamn, this is beautiful.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 18:07 |
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BirdieBedtime posted:AL Advice This is great info, thanks! I'll be the first to admit I have no idea what I'm doing with list building, since my only frame of reference is lore. So I appreciate the feedback. edit-- Tweaked to: Praetor Exodus (just need to find a good kitbash) 5x Lernaeans (one with conversion beam) Contemptor with lascannon Contemptor with lascannon 5x Support squad with meltas 10x Tac squad 10x Tac squad 10x Tac squad 5x Headhunters 5x Headhunters 5x Seekers 5x Seekers 5x Heavy Support w/ missiles Count Thrashula fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jun 28, 2022 |
# ? Jun 28, 2022 18:20 |
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Would the lernaeans be objective camping? I don't really know the point of having a conversion beamer on terminators unless they're going to be a ways away from the fight and then I don't really know why they would be terminators.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 19:51 |
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I ran 2 Larnaean squads last week with conversion beamers and was fairly happy with the results. Blind is a big deal when it lands, even if you're not optimizing the weapon's damage. Ghazk fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Jun 28, 2022 |
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TheLawinator posted:Would the lernaeans be objective camping? I don't really know the point of having a conversion beamer on terminators unless they're going to be a ways away from the fight and then I don't really know why they would be terminators. I think that’s the role for them. They’re Line, which is great, and they’re fairly tough to shift, but they’re absolutely not going toe to toe with other Legions’ elite terminators or anything. However, they’ll make an absolute mess of anything WS4 in power armor. Maybe two 5-man units would be better to camp two objectives at once? Can’t slap them both in a single Spartan but could put them in smaller transports.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 21:18 |
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I'm considering running the Oops all Dreadnaughts Rite in Imperial Fists because I love the Contemptor and Deredo Dreadies. All I've bought so far is AoD and Fafnir, and I have a NotRogal Dorn printed up from a friend. Is this dumb? Not every Dread would have heavy bolters or assault cannons, as those are fun with Fists, but I think they'd lack punching through mechanized armor. I also have some Knights and Armigers left from 40k I could fold in once Liber Mechanicus drops. Thoughts?
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 22:45 |
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Lol I forgot that someone already mailed out 90 custom SoH shoulder pads before I changed my mind about the legion so whoops I'm sticking with SoH.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 23:59 |
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Gato The Elder posted:Iron Warriors have some of the sickest looking unique units in the game. It would be a crime to play them and not field Tyrants and an Iron Circle maniple. I hope my Iron Hands get some more units eventually. Immortals and Gorgon terminators are neat but I'd love one or two more that lean even more into the mechanicum connections
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# ? Jun 29, 2022 00:01 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:21 |
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gently caress Your Characters Exodus 165 Praetor: Rite of War (Headhunter Leviathal); Praetor; Nemesis bolter; Warlord (The Mobius Configuration) 140 10 Tactical Space Marines: Tactical Sergeant; 9 Tactical Space Marines 100 10 Tactical Space Marines: Tactical Sergeant; 9 Tactical Space Marines 100 10 Headhunters: Headhunter Prime; 9 Headhunters 225 5 Lernaean Terminators: Harrower; 4 Lernaean Terminators; conversion beamer 325 5 Lernaean Terminators: Harrower; 4 Lernaean Terminators; conversion beamer 325 10 Headhunters: Headhunter Prime; 9 Headhunters 225 Allied Legiones Astartes Delegatus: Rite of War (The Decapitation Strike); Delegatus 85 10 Tactical Space Marines: Tactical Sergeant; 9 Tactical Space Marines 100 • Rhino 35 5 Mor Deythan: Mor Deythan Shade (Nemesis bolter); 4 Mor Deythan; 4 × Nemesis bolter 175 2,000 points
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