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Okay so it is 712.14 that applies because both sides of the card lose all abilities when it turns into an island. When it flips it still doesn't have those abilities
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Barry Shitpeas posted:Tidal warrior applies both a type-changing effect (removing other land types and adding Island) and an ability-removing effect (removing all abilities except T: add U) quote:205.1a Some effects set an object’s card type. ... If an object’s card type is removed, the subtypes correlated with that card type will remain if they are also the subtypes of a card type the object currently has; otherwise, they are also removed for the entire time the object’s card type is removed. ... quote:305.7. If an effect sets a land’s subtype to one or more of the basic land types, the land no longer has its old land type. It loses all abilities generated from its rules text, ...
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Jun 28, 2022 13:53
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Mezzanon posted:I stopped playing arena, and standard, and limited, and buying packs. That's whats up. I miss draft though; lots of my core group moved away and I don't really like just playing with randos every weekend.
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Jun 28, 2022 14:09
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Captain Invictus posted:just finished watching this, man what a fun as hell trio. I've not watched the prior shuffle up and plays, are any others this good? The first episode of the series with Tappy constantly ragging on Prof is pretty great. The episode before this one with the One More Mana crew was very enjoyable for me as well. Your mileage may vary but I'd give them all a shot. Personally I found the second episode to be sort of a bore.
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Jun 28, 2022 15:48
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Captain Invictus posted:just finished watching this, man what a fun as hell trio. I've not watched the prior shuffle up and plays, are any others this good? They're all good to great, honestly
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Jun 28, 2022 15:53
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Entropic posted:so tired of all these magics You can play A LOT of Magic and not interact with Secret Lairs or Special Boosters at all. Also the cadence of sets coming out for standard/modern are pretty much exactly the same as it's been for years and years.
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Jun 28, 2022 16:12
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tbh if you're a Content Creator (tm) for magic there's an obligation put upon you for keeping up with every single new release and update at least information-wise if not actually buying in, and a lot of the greater fandom as a whole looks at the Content they Consume to form their opinions, so when the Content Creator gets burnt out the people who should be picking and choosing what they care about based on what they, like, actually care about and will effect them, they feel the burnout about as hard this is why monetizing your hobbies sucks, and why in general i think if you're not enjoying a hobby anymore and it's not your actual job you should just cut away as much ancillary stuff you aren't enjoying and/or just shelve it entirely for a while until it starts appealing to you again.
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Jun 28, 2022 16:36
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HootTheOwl posted:Yes but the new timestamp means Oremendal isn't a land, and the rule which says making it an Island removes its abilities also says this applies only to lands, in addition to making it unable to set it's land-subtype: I would argue that the Tidal Warrior effect continues to apply (611.2c) and will do as much as it can (609.3), applying the rest of 305.7 even though the permanent can no longer have a land subtype. 613.6. If an effect should be applied in different layers and/or sublayers, the parts of the effect each apply in their appropriate ones. If an effect starts to apply in one layer and/or sublayer, it will continue to be applied to the same set of objects in each other applicable layer and/or sublayer, even if the ability generating the effect is removed during this process.
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Jun 28, 2022 16:36
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Barry Shitpeas posted:I would argue that the Tidal Warrior effect continues to apply (611.2c) and will do as much as it can (609.3), applying the rest of 305.7 even though the permanent can no longer have a land subtype. But Tidal Warrior's effect one does one thing: It changes the subtype of a land into an island. It is the rules that do the rest. So sure, it still applies, and it still does as much as it can but that ends up being nothing. Without being a land, you can't change it's land subtype to island. If you can't set the subtype to island, you can't do the other things.
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Jun 28, 2022 16:57
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Mezzanon posted:I stopped playing arena, and standard, and limited, and buying packs. Same except I only really play modern (will probably start doing pioneer soon)
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Jun 28, 2022 17:38
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Entropic posted:so tired of all these magics Yeah that all tracks. The content deluge is overwhelming, and the Baldurs Gate stuff in particular is kind of off-putting. Hasbro is gonna do their thing but the seams are really showing as far as their attempt to squeeze every available dollar out of the player base.
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Just saw this posted on Youtube (don't judge me Pawn Stars is my guilty pleasure) So, this guy bought in a shitload of test cards from Pre-Alpha? They were valued at $400 a piece (27 total) for $10,800. Is that about right or is that an extreme low ball price? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC6_82R2Zto
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Jun 28, 2022 20:30
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Yeah i think its safe to say thats very very low. Those would be extremely valuable to certain collectors whod want to own mtg history, and i doubt pawn stars guy is valuing with that in mind
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Jun 28, 2022 21:14
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The mtg play test cards are priceless, pawn stars dude is a well known ripoff
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Jun 28, 2022 21:18
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Playing cards? And they're only pre-Alpha test cards? Well, ah, I'll give you 35 cents.
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:So, this guy bought in a shitload of test cards from Pre-Alpha? They were valued at $400 a piece (27 total) for $10,800. Is that about right or is that an extreme low ball price? Looking at Heritage Auctions, there have been auctions last year with even the most draft-chaff common graded at CGC7 going for $4,000 with name cards like Time Walk going for $30,000+. Yes, Pawn Stars was ripping this dude off for ~5-10% of actual value.
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Toshimo posted:Looking at Heritage Auctions, there have been auctions last year with even the most draft-chaff common graded at CGC7 going for $4,000 with name cards like Time Walk going for $30,000+. Hahaha i was thinking "theyre probably worth 1000 bucks easy but i dont really know" and it turns out i was also lowballing it Holy poo poo thats just theft at 400
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I'm not surprised by Rick's offer to the guy since doesn't know poo poo about the game I was more curious about the guy who appraised them at $400 since he owns a card shop I would have assumed he would have known what he was seeing. Well, it's also a scripted TV show so yeah. That just seemed like a crazy appraisal to me
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Well, it's also a scripted TV show so yeah. That just seemed like a crazy appraisal to me The Pawn Shop owner, and his appraiser, are on the "same side" of the transaction. It's in this side's interest to low-ball the Card Owner. If the Card Owner, on the opposite side of the transaction, doesn't realize this, then that's just a poor choice on their part. It's like putting up your house on the market for $1, and then asking the people who come to look at it what they think it's worth before they make you an offer to buy. It's your responsibility, as the owner of a valuable asset, to not gently caress up the valuation.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:26
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I'm glad the kid didn't take that offer heh.
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Any one in Montreal? Trying to find a lgs to play at.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Any one in Montreal? nope, it's uninhabitable wasteland
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Just saw this posted on Youtube (don't judge me Pawn Stars is my guilty pleasure) Lmao idiot should of gone to Rudy
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kalel posted:nope, it's uninhabitable wasteland Seriously, honey in bagels? gently caress off
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MonsieurChoc posted:Any one in Montreal? Trying to find a lgs to play at. You are welcome to post that here of course, but you can also try the goons seeking games stickied thread.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Any one in Montreal? Trying to find a lgs to play at. I’ll be at CommandFest (I know that doesn’t help RIGHT NOW)
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Seriously, honey in bagels? gently caress off smdh Montreal Smoked Meat literally erases any of their culinary sins
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Balon posted:I’ll be at CommandFest (I know that doesn’t help RIGHT NOW) Oh, what’s that? As a noob should I go? Pablo Nergigante posted:Seriously, honey in bagels? gently caress off Montreal has the best bagels, I will fight you (in a children’s card game).
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Never had honey in a bagel, but it doesnt sound bad if its light tbh
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Honey on bagels is fine, and you can even put it into your creamcheese.
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apricot jam and plain cream cheese on a bagel is a lovely treat
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It's not on the bagels, they boil the bagels in water that has honey in it. Also I'm just joking, I went to Montreal a few years back and had a lovely time and the bagels were tasty
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mandatory lesbian posted:Never had honey in a bagel, but it doesnt sound bad if its light tbh I heard once that if you have honey on a bagel you can have honey anytime.
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Traditional Games > Magic: The Gathering: Honey Belongs On A Bagel
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Froghammer posted:Traditional Games > Magic: The Gathering: Honey Belongs On A Bagel 
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mandatory lesbian posted:Never had honey in a bagel, but it doesnt sound bad if its light tbh Montreal style bagels are really good! You should try them if you get the chance.
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It's normally best to wait for a week or so after people start opening product right? I wanna pick up playsets of W6 and Cavern, but ideally I'd like them to drop a little more than the current preorder prices, but I'm wondering if they'll start climbing immediately since the boxes are so expensive and they're both mythics
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Elvis_Maximus posted:It's normally best to wait for a week or so after people start opening product right? I'd honestly wait a month. With how much they shorted the print run of this, it's super hard to tell if, at all, the price will significantly drop on any of these reprints at mythic that aren't from the commander precons, save for Dockside.
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Defeatist Elitist posted:Montreal style bagels are really good! You should try them if you get the chance. Getting a passport is way too much hassle, altho the ways things are going i might be a refugee in a couple years
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