mdemone posted:

I was rushing through the last few minutes before heading out -- do we have any idea who the witness was that was being tampered with? Could it have been Hutchinson herself and they didn't identify it as such to protect her and maybe the investigation somehow?

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1541914013424041985

In context the typo is hilarious

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Absolutely. The indictment must be for the capitol riots/sedition or the Georgia thing.

cochise posted:

https://twitter.com/January6thCmte/status/1541868218922541058

Dr. Faustus posted:

This is a very good question that I have written a response to several times. Since it's such a good question I will type it again:

There is one huge reason to let the J6 Committee "go first" at the witnesses instead of the DOJ. Time is of the essence because if this whole plot isn't exposed by this September, it probably never would be. We needed these hearings for the same reason we needed the Watergate hearings. To inform and persuade the public to care. I suspect it is actually working and will, going forward from today, gather steam.

But: Imagine if DOJ had gone guns after Trump and everybody else before the J6 committee. What would that look like? First of all, Garland would empanel a Grand Jury and call witnesses to testify. Grand Jury testimony is secret! By the time they could get to the bottom of this, it would be time for the 2022 mid-terms and we would only know what can be figured out from public-facing court documents and leaks. A leaky GJ isn't going to inspire confidence in the DOJ first, but second, a perfectly water-tight GJ would mean none of us know all of this. Trump's base would be saying all of this FUD and chaff without the public knowing anything. Then the GOP wins the midterms and there never is a J6 committee. Ever.
By allowing the Select Committee to "go first" they are doing much of the same work of a Grand Jury! But in this case the Committee gets to choose what to share with the public and when. As you can see, they're doing a loving awesome job of that.
There is an added benefit: NOW as all of these people get hoovered into the DOJ investigations they will be giving secret testimony. The Committee is providing its witness testimony to the DOJ as well. This way, DOJ has two records of testimony to compare. This will make it far easier to catch witnesses who attempt to lie, as well as compelling smart witnesses (I suppose there are some) to not even try.

I hope this makes sense!

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1541910389289635841

ooh boy lets see if their anonymous source comes for testimony under oath (they wont)

mdemone posted:

Shall we bet $25 to the Red Cross on his indictment before the end of the summer?

Boris Galerkin posted:

This makes sense but do you have evidence of this being intentional or is it just what you would do?

Cimber posted:

How about 25 to a charity supporting Ukraine, since Trump hosed them over pretty hard.

Dr. Faustus posted:

I don't have any evidence it was meant to be this way, but I also have no evidence it was not.

The fact is this is the way it worked out and it's important to balance that with how the alternative would have gone. I honestly had this question myself because obviously what we want is Trump in cuffs, perp-walked, a LONG TIME AGO. once I learned about the alternative (thanks in large part to Glenn Kirschner, who just advocated on live TV that Flynn must be recalled to service and court-martialled.) Glenn is painfully uncool but I am really fond of him. He thinks this is mattering, and after some time I came to see it his way. I think he's good people, but right about now is when someone posts the link to him in black-face as a JAG in the 80s.

mdemone posted:

You're on!

Cimber posted:

wait, which side are you on, that he gets indicted or he doesn't get indited?

mdemone posted:

He will be indicted.

Cimber posted:

Ok, if he's not indicted by September 1st then you donate 25 bucks to a Ukrainian charity. If he's indicted any time from now until then I will do the same.

I hope to be paying that 25 bucks soon.

cochise posted:

https://twitter.com/January6thCmte/status/1541868218922541058

I went back and checked the testimony from today after seeing the usual MAGA idiots making big claims about Trump not being able to grab the steering wheel in the Beast. It wasn't the Beast/presidential limo. It was a Secret Service suburban. So that argument is dead.

PhantomOfTheCopier posted:

I need to go back and watch Thursday's but I went through today's. What a clown show (that "presidency" was); maybe it would have helped to elect a president with any knowledge of the law, other than "violate it".

The part that got my heart rate up was when she was giving definitions for the two types of scheduling. She started on the uncoordinated motion and I knew it was going to be there... the national security package. By Oppenheimer's sixth cousin's ghost, the fat boy had access to the fat boy. One wonders how many times he suggested "bombing BLM" or "the dnc" without understanding nuclear yield.


And for the record, the end of summer is the autumnal equinox. (Which in 2022 is apparently 9/22 at 1803pdt)

Spiffster posted:

I want in on this

Trump will not be arrested. If he is, 25 to a Ukraine charity or I will eat a ban

For God’s sake I have never wanted to lose a toxx so bad

Rigel posted:

I always wanted Trump to be indicted and go to trial for something and thought there was a decent chance of it, but if pressed I always thought it was less than 50/50.

After today, I think the odds are extremely high, I'd put it at around 75%. Who the hell knows on conviction, good luck not having a secret MAGA moron infiltrate every jury pool.

Xiahou Dun posted:

Am I blind? Cause I still can't see much of anything in this video. If I full-screen it and really squint, I can see what might be a hand kind of flailing around but I might just be imagining things.

Alkydere posted:

The point of the video is that a bunch of people are screaming today's testimony was fake because there's no way Trump could even reach the driver's compartment of the presidential limo, A.K.A. The Beast.

But he's not riding away in The Beast. That's just a Secret Service Suburban which is just...well a suburban (albeit with armored plates/windows)

Oracle posted:

Republican senators will, to a man, not vote to convict while excoriating him to the sky, just like they did the last time.

cat botherer posted:

indicked

mdemone posted:

Fuschia tude posted:

Uh, in his first trial, Romney broke ranks and voted to convict; the last time, fully seven R Senators did so. We needed more than double that to actually convict him, but it was not at all "to a man".

Testekill posted:

I can't believe that someone gave Trump the password to the HouseGOP twitter account. They're live tweeting in a very Trumpian in their choice of words despite never tweeting like that before today.

Testekill posted:

I can't believe that someone gave Trump the password to the HouseGOP twitter account. They're live tweeting in a very Trumpian in their choice of words despite never tweeting like that before today.