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I can't wait for whoever releases the first EV minivan (that's not the VW microbus thing), because that seems like the ultimate vehicle.
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Russian Bear posted:I can't wait for whoever releases the first EV minivan (that's not the VW microbus thing), because that seems like the ultimate vehicle.  , with only a handful of companies making minivans anymore Kia seems the most likely to do that with the e-gmp, but nothing announced so far.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:50
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Russian Bear posted:I can't wait for whoever releases the first EV minivan (that's not the VW microbus thing), because that seems like the ultimate vehicle. whats wrong with the id buzz
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Jun 28, 2022 22:58
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Screw minivan. Ford makes the transit full sized vans based on the F150 frames. Gimme a full size transit on a Lightning frame in panel trim so I can commission some rad murals with wizards shooting lightning bolts.
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Jun 28, 2022 23:12
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Kia Soul Enthusias posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIwYz1XKbh8 This is the first I heard rivian was doing their own network, and what a great idea! More stations in more remote areas, trailer pull through lanes, fantastic, so I had to look into it more, but now I'm just annoyed. According to everything I can find (unless the internet is lying to me), they are software limiting their charges to rivians only. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life, jesus christ. They go ahead and use standardized connectors but then arbitrarily make the charging situation in the US even more hosed up and atomized at a time when charging infrastructure needs all the help it can get. Not just help in the sense of needing more chargers, but help in the sense of how many new EV owners know absolutely nothing about all the details of EV charging. On the trip i drove for my parents, every stop none of the other nice people knew anything about charging speeds, or what their cars could take advantage of, at one stop a tesla owner pulled up confused trying to use a CCS plug, and thats a tesla with the most integrated charging network around! And even Tesla is making noise about opening up their network and they at least have the excuse of being first and having to make their own bespoke connector, yet Rivian with CCS is helping to fracture charging infrastructure in 2022? Absolutely loving stupid precedent to start. Really looking forward to the future of EV's where you have to make sure you plan your travels around being certain there are Ford© charges in range, because last trip you got stuck on the side of the road because you didn't realize the chargers on your route were only General Motors© and Subaru© stations that don't work with your 2028 mach e. "Whew, made it to the EA charger and theres one stall left- wait, poo poo! Thats a dedicated porche only stall thats left! gently caress!" I feel like we're going to end up in the world we would have been in if they had RFID chips in 1920 to make sure you only used Ford Motor Company branded gasoline pumps. What absolute baby brained poo poo by Rivian.
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Jun 28, 2022 23:50
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I don’t think this trend will hold. Tesla will eventually open all its chargers to the rest of the population, and so will Rivian. They can’t walk away from all that charging revenue.
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Jun 28, 2022 23:53
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Pretty sure the Rivian goon worked on the charging system said that the plan is eventually to open them up to anyone but they were focused on just getting them up and running and working with their own cars right now because they didn’t have the necessary resources to do QA for all of the EVs on the market and payments processing would be a pain and so on. EA chargers are nominally open but things like plug and charge still only work on some brands and not others. Volta chargers fail for me like 95% of the time in the Mach-E but apparently work fine for some other EVs. Trying to build a charging network that actually works well for all EVs seems like it’s fairly challenging and I’m not surprised that a startup that’s still focused on trying to get their actual product built in reasonable numbers isn’t interested in also trying to build a first class open charging network right now.
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Jun 29, 2022 00:13
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Tom Guycot posted:This is the first I heard rivian was doing their own network, and what a great idea! More stations in more remote areas, trailer pull through lanes, fantastic, so I had to look into it more, but now I'm just annoyed. According to Rivian DCFC goon, the intention is to open them up but with not all cars following protocol it's going to be awhile. FlapYoJacks posted:
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Jun 29, 2022 00:21
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McPhearson posted:According to Rivian DCFC goon, the intention is to open them up but with not all cars following protocol it's going to be awhile. Software developer chiming in. This is totally believable. Everything is awful.
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Jun 29, 2022 00:32
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McTinkerson posted:Screw minivan. Ford makes the transit full sized vans based on the F150 frames. Gimme a full size transit on a Lightning frame in panel trim so I can commission some rad murals with wizards shooting lightning bolts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw 
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Jun 29, 2022 00:42
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Some interesting details about the Ioniq 6 from the Ars articlequote:Like the Ioniq 5, the Ioniq 6 uses Hyundai's new E-GMP platform for 800 V vehicles, but importantly, it's actually smaller (with a 2-inch/50-mm shorter wheelbase) and will be cheaper than the angular Ioniq 5. (Yes, this still confuses me, because 6 is more than 5, so one expects a bigger, more expensive car, plus the Ioniq 7 is going to be a large seven-seater electric SUV, due next year.) quote:Pricing information will also have to wait for now, but for context it will be cheaper than the Ioniq 5, which starts at $46,650, which means an Ioniq 6 will almost certainly heavily undercut a Tesla Model 3, which, unlike the Hyundais, is not eligible for the federal plug-in vehicle tax credit. Holy crap it actually sounds pretty good!
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Jun 29, 2022 00:54
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It is funny how - aside from BMW which makes the best designed cars in the world - every EV sedan is trying so hard to make a car look like an Apple Mouse with wheels. I get that there's constraints with having to have a battery block at the bottom of the car, but when did everyone just say "okay let's just put a VW Bug on one of those medieval torture racks where the horses walk in two different directions and stretch it out" and ship it
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Jun 29, 2022 01:14
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it looks like its rear end in a top hat is prolapsing
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Jun 29, 2022 01:16
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McTinkerson posted:Screw minivan. Ford makes the transit full sized vans based on the F150 frames. Gimme a full size transit on a Lightning frame in panel trim so I can commission some rad murals with wizards shooting lightning bolts. An electric van like this with removable rear seats/bench for cargo/camper duty would be absolutely amazing, especially if it’s wide enough for sheets of plywood (unlike the buzz). And yeah, the 70’s fantasy mural seems obligatory.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The ID.4 is a fine car but I’d be hard pressed to make an argument as to why you should pick one over the Ioniq 5. It might be easier to get your hands on one, but that’s about it. I’d take one of the Ioniq/EV6 over any competitors in that class. To add to this, ID.4s will start US production in a month so there should be a lot more available soon. THE BIG DOG DADDY posted:It is funny how - aside from BMW which makes the best designed cars in the world - every EV sedan is trying so hard to make a car look like an Apple Mouse with wheels. I get that there's constraints with having to have a battery block at the bottom of the car, but when did everyone just say "okay let's just put a VW Bug on one of those medieval torture racks where the horses walk in two different directions and stretch it out" and ship it  I like BMW but the i4 front looks like rear end
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Jun 29, 2022 01:20
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Yeah the new BMW faux grilles are atrocious. And locking down the hood is lame as well. Where will the iced prawns go?!?!
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Jun 29, 2022 01:23
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THE BIG DOG DADDY posted:It is funny how - aside from BMW which makes the best designed cars in the world - every EV sedan is trying so hard to make a car look like an Apple Mouse with wheels. I get that there's constraints with having to have a battery block at the bottom of the car, but when did everyone just say "okay let's just put a VW Bug on one of those medieval torture racks where the horses walk in two different directions and stretch it out" and ship it The Polestar 2 doesn’t look anything like that. And the Taycan might, depending on how much you stretch the definition, but it’s also the best looking EV out there.
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Jymmybob posted:I like BMW but the i4 front looks like rear end it's actually really good, and it doesn't follow the design cues of a roomba
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THE BIG DOG DADDY posted:it looks like its rear end in a top hat is prolapsing owns
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The Polestar 2 doesn’t look anything like that. And the Taycan might, depending on how much you stretch the definition, but it’s also the best looking EV out there. The P2 is a crossover, I guess, idk...it's harder and harder to draw a line now that every sedan has a hatchback and sloped rear. I like the Taycan for sure, and the reason is it still has some accents on the front and rear, not an amorphous blob made in the shape of a wind tunnel smoke line
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Bring back the original Citroën DS design imo
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THE BIG DOG DADDY posted:The P2 is a crossover, I guess, idk...it's harder and harder to draw a line now that every sedan has a hatchback and sloped rear. It’s not actually a crossover. It’s only 1.2” taller than the i4 and shorter than, like, a Subaru Legacy.
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The Ioniq 6 looks too normal imo. They pussed out after the 5.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:It’s not actually a crossover. It’s only 1.2” taller than the i4 and shorter than, like, a Subaru Legacy. Crossovers are usually shorter than sedans but yeah to me the P2 doesn't feel like a crossover at all to drive.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:It’s not actually a crossover. It’s only 1.2” taller than the i4 and shorter than, like, a Subaru Legacy. if you asked my wife she would confirm that an extra 1.2" would make a tremendous difference in perception and practicality
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 Again with the no side mirrors. I really hope we get something like this in the US some day.
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dissss posted:Crossovers are usually shorter than sedans but yeah to me the P2 doesn't feel like a crossover at all to drive. I mean in height, not length.
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I’m currently supercharging, and this lady next to me is sitting in her frunk reading a novel looking all instagram fancy. Meanwhile I’m in a rollercoaster shirt scarfing down chili dogs and Mountain Dew
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Jun 29, 2022 02:19
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The Polestar 2 doesn’t look anything like that. And the Taycan might, depending on how much you stretch the definition, but it’s also the best looking EV out there.
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cruft posted:
To be clear that picture is the Hyundai Prophecy concept and and not the Ioniq 6.
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cruft posted:
I sure loving hope not. 
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:sitting in her frunk reading a novel 
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mobby_6kl posted:Some interesting details about the Ioniq 6 from the Ars article No one else seems to agree though - everywhere else is it's longer overall the the Ioniq 5, just on a shorter wheelbase.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:I’m currently supercharging, and this lady next to me is sitting in her frunk reading a novel looking all instagram fancy. Does she have any shrimp in there?
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Russian Bear posted:I can't wait for whoever releases the first EV minivan (that's not the VW microbus thing), because that seems like the ultimate vehicle. Mercedes makes one, the EQV.
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Russian Bear posted:I can't wait for whoever releases the first EV minivan (that's not the VW microbus thing), because that seems like the ultimate vehicle. There's rumours that the Kia Carnival will have a hybrid version available in a couple of years, with a full EV version to follow.
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Just going to have a tiny rant here and complain that the Subaru Solterra and Toyota bz4x/busy forks have the exact same VIN stem, which is going to make distinguishing between the two for purposes of VIN decoding very difficult. As that's part of my job, I am big mad. BTW I'm the one who got that Nexo FCEV about a year back. I still like the car! Pity that they can't keep the stations running to save their lives tho.
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MrOnBicycle posted:I just hope that Cupras EV stuff isn’t as poo poo as their ICE cars. I got a Cupra Fermented or whatever it’s called as a loaner and it’s just horrible. Apart from getting an ICE as a loaner, the car itself is just horrid. Driving a modern ICE with an auto makes me appreciate my EV that much more. The worst part is putting my foot down and nothing happens for a second or so, and then the gearbox starts hunting gears. Interesting! I've never been in a Cupra of any type, though my parents' neighbor has a Tormentor or whatever the gently caress. I'm still kind of flabbergasted that VW's sub-brand Seat made another sub-brand to make lovely cars. I also would've thought that these cars would have electric a/c pumps.
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Eyes Only posted:Does she have any shrimp in there?
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Russian Bear posted:I can't wait for whoever releases the first EV minivan (that's not the VW microbus thing), because that seems like the ultimate vehicle. https://www.fiat.it/e-ulysse/e-ulysse Already on the market, with quicker delivery times than the buzz.
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