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chiasaur11 posted:That's a pretty uncharitable reading, I think. If I recall correctly, Ingrid does feel the pressure to consider the marriage proposals her father has sent - It's only because Dorothea can help prove that the guy's a complete scumbag that she can avoid that one.
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More thoughts about the game. Caspar's response to Balthus in their C rank support was great. Maybe it was just the battles I was trying it on but Holy Knight is terrifying. I continue to enjoy seeing Hubert being Hubert. Constance and Petra's support I liked, especially in the context of Caspar and Petra's.
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Jun 28, 2022 23:53
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For the wizard moveset if you get up in someone's face and use weak-weak-strong for lightning strikes their stun gauge disintigrates. It's been a solid tool for me playing on hard once I figured that out instead of just doing YYYX Wind area control.
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lmao Balthus and Holst's supports. They did a really good job of delivering on this hugely imposing warrior with a mind for battle who is also just a complete dork.  Bruceski posted:For the wizard moveset if you get up in someone's face and use weak-weak-strong for lightning strikes their stun gauge disintigrates. It's been a solid tool for me playing on hard once I figured that out instead of just doing YYYX Wind area control. Huh, I'll give it a whirl next time.
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Casters are also great for fighting monsters since they have access to all the elements. The healer line is, as far as I can tell, kinda pointless compared to mages.
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Jun 29, 2022 00:55
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Bruceski posted:For the wizard moveset if you get up in someone's face and use weak-weak-strong for lightning strikes their stun gauge disintigrates. It's been a solid tool for me playing on hard once I figured that out instead of just doing YYYX Wind area control. Oh yeah, that too. C3 on Mage and Dark Mage movesets are amazing for stun gauge damage.
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Bruceski posted:For the wizard moveset if you get up in someone's face and use weak-weak-strong for lightning strikes their stun gauge disintigrates. It's been a solid tool for me playing on hard once I figured that out instead of just doing YYYX Wind area control. Yeah someone posted it a few days ago, but it looks like YYX is the stun gauge depleter across the board for all classes--I haven't rigorously tested this, and I've only just unlocked master classes so maybe that changes the game, but it seems to hold as true so far. Also can't tell if swordmaster's mortal strike (or whatever it's called, the one that makes every attack make the stun gauge appear) is worth it or not. On its face it seems pretty powerful, but then again, every offensive ability makes the stun gauge appear anyway, so I'm not sure if one that doesn't do anything else is much of a bonus. Maybe on higher difficulties where enemies take longer to kill it matters.
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I shouldn't just use Leonie in every single map because she's busted as gently caress. But I do. And I don't regret it. The game showers me in S ranks as she just demolishes every single map with ease. Seriously who thought that her being able to loop combos 4 times was reasonable?
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Healers can be commanded to heal from the tactical map, so having one in Main Missions as one of the four cheerleaders you can’t play as is an excellent idea as there’s frequently a “stop this idiot dying” quest you can laser them onto
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Clawtopsy posted:Healers can be commanded to heal from the tactical map, so having one in Main Missions as one of the four cheerleaders you can’t play as is an excellent idea as there’s frequently a “stop this idiot dying” quest you can laser them onto every time i read this thread i learn something new
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Clawtopsy posted:Healers can be commanded to heal from the tactical map, so having one in Main Missions as one of the four cheerleaders you can’t play as is an excellent idea as there’s frequently a “stop this idiot dying” quest you can laser them onto lmao I beat an entire storyline without realizing this. For a game with so many goddamn tutorial popups it really doesn't explain poo poo.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Yeah someone posted it a few days ago, but it looks like YYX is the stun gauge depleter across the board for all classes--I haven't rigorously tested this, and I've only just unlocked master classes so maybe that changes the game, but it seems to hold as true so far. I think I've noticed that as well, Archers get a flashbang though I have some trouble timing that right. I really should put Death Blow (stun gauge stays longer) on them, lots of windup in their attacks.
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Also, what did everyone think of the major spoiler reveal that Sothis is trying to take over Byleth’s body for real? And if you kill Jeralt, Byleth gives it up willingly?
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Clawtopsy posted:Also, what did everyone think of the major spoiler reveal that Sothis is trying to take over Byleth’s body for real? And if you kill Jeralt, Byleth gives it up willingly? I think it totally fits with what we know of Sothis. She woke up in very different circumstances here than she did in 3 Houses, backed into a corner against something literally engineered to kill her. Freaking out and overriding Byleth is completely within her normal purview. That then sets the stage for a more antagonistic relationship overall. And Byleth giving up once Jeralt is dead also really fits, Jeralt is literally the only person they've ever cared about. They have literally nothing and no one else in the world at that point, might as well try to burn down the person who did it
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Clawtopsy posted:Also, what did everyone think of the major spoiler reveal that Sothis is trying to take over Byleth’s body for real? And if you kill Jeralt, Byleth gives it up willingly? I liked what we got of Byleth and Jeralt's relationship in 3 Houses so was happy to see that relationship given some extra emphasis with that detail. Byleth's relationships with Sothis and Jeralt were probably the aspects of their character I most enjoyed so am glad that despite their relative lack of importance that's what this spinoff decided to center in on with their major story scenes. Even if Sothis kinda gives off a different vibe.
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Ainsley McTree posted:every time i read this thread i learn something new yeah there's so much lol
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Just a PSA because I've seen people complaining about it in the thread a couple times now: on "Kill x enemies" missions, you are NOT supposed to avoid generals to spawn more mooks. Killing generals will eventually cause more generals/mooks to arrive, which is what you want. Do that efficiently and you'll easily get the S rank.
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really liked the (late game recruit spoiler) Jeralt x Manuela support. V cute
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Clawtopsy posted:Also, what did everyone think of the major spoiler reveal that Sothis is trying to take over Byleth’s body for real? And if you kill Jeralt, Byleth gives it up willingly? Fits. Like, while we interact with sassy, mostly-good ghost-gremlin, the lore has her as a space-dragon colonizer who looks to have done at least one attempted-genocide of the original people of the land (whether the Agarthans had it coming is another thing). While Amensiac-Sothis can grow up with Byleth and the kids into the Sothis who would sacrifice herself, Sothis who instead grows up with violence instead of teaching will head down a similar path. Looks like the Nabatean apple didn't fall as far from the tree as previously assumed.
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So are most of you assigning npcs to go smack around genrrals constantly? If so, that's probably part of why your kill xs are such a struggle. They ignore everything else to kill that general. If you direct them to run into a stronghold they'll attack that general and it's non general minions and your kill count will go up faster. If you let them just autobattle attack they'll attack random mooks on the road and also make it go up faster. Don't always be assigning people to fight bosses.
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are we actually getting dlc or is it just a fourth hope? did 3 Houses or FEW got their dlc announced later?
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Age of Calamity had it's DLC announced a few months after launch.
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I'm pretty early into post timeskip Azure Gleam, just finished the first chapter. It was genuinely surprising when your rounding up and escorting out all the church personnel and then Cyril shows up lagging all the way at the start and Rhea holds the whole thing up for him. Like I don't even think she was being performatively noble, just not gonna ditch her number 1 fan. Also yeah sure I'll move a giant boulder into the molten rock to dry up a magma stream for you Seteth, I know these envromental hazards can be a real pain for you loving WYVERN RIDERS
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Because I was looking them up myself, here's all the Innate Abilities along with what they actually do, which is missing from the Google Doc. You get these by mastering a master class with particular characters. Trickster -- Gather -- pulls nearby enemies in front of you when attacking Mortal Savant -- Proficient Witstrike -- All attacks are calculated with Mag Falcon Knight -- Flyswatter -- Increased gauge fill rate attacking launched enemies Dark Knight (and some Holy) -- Range Master -- Increased Attack range Holy Knight -- Exalted Breath -- Awakening gauge restored when restoring HP of self or ally Great Knight -- Ironclad -- negate attacks that would break guard (I don't know if that negates the guard break or full attack) Great Knight (alternate) -- Inspiring Agility -- all classes get dash attacks Wyvern Lord -- Heaviest Hitter -- Strong attacks spawn stun gauge at a high rate Wyvern Lord (alternate) -- Domineer -- increased damage to enemies on foot Bow Knight -- Sharpshooter -- Crits instantly kill non-generals War Master -- Prepared to Die -- Rapidly refills Warrior Guage at low health Gremory/Dark Bishop -- Nullify Magic -- Nullifies enemies' offensive magic
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Clawtopsy posted:If I recall correctly, Ingrid does feel the pressure to consider the marriage proposals her father has sent - It's only because Dorothea can help prove that the guy's a complete scumbag that she can avoid that one. She does feel the pressure, but I never got the impression that it was from her father, it was general social pressure and a desire to make her home territory better.
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Just finished up GW Chapter 9, happily surprised at how much of a scheming rear end in a top hat Claude gets to be in this route. Not only is he officially a kinslayer, he uses the war as an excuse to subvert the Alliances oligarchy to gain dictatorial power and also signs a wholehearted alliance with the Empire only to immediately use their army as a disposable pawn at the first opportunity, to the shock of even his own comrades. It's a cool twist on the old three houses critique that Claude and Edelgard's goals 95% overlap that he also recognizes this but uses it against the Empire. Hopefully this route doesn't go completely off the rails in the second half like AG did.
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Defiance Industries posted:She does feel the pressure, but I never got the impression that it was from her father, it was general social pressure and a desire to make her home territory better. I think her father sending her constant suitors is probably contributing to that pressure.
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no matter what game is it, pegasus riders are always overpowered...
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SB Finale thoughts: That final battle against Thales/Rhea/Immaculate One was incredibly fun, I really thought it was over when the dragon went down but nope, Thales runs back in for round two alongside a weakened Rhea, I'll say one thing for the Slitherers, they don't know when the gently caress to give it up. Both of them killing each other in the cutscene after was very fitting as well I thought. All in all SB was a great campaign.
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Clawtopsy posted:I think her father sending her constant suitors is probably contributing to that pressure. And yet she's just like nah and he's always cool with it.
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Ingrid just got asian parents tbh
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Zore posted:All classes are in this game are a moveset (which is fully unlocked by getting to A rank in the weapon), unlocks (which almost all carry over between classes) and between 1-4 innate skills with most classes having just 'whatever'-breaker and a few having some kinda meh ones beyond that like Locktouch. not by an overly huge amount, but if you're ~optimizing~ you might take it into account that the master classes give better stats than anything below
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Tired Moritz posted:Ingrid just got asian parents tbh Count Galatea: I just want her to meet a nice boy, from a good family. Ingrid: You keep setting me up with lunatics! One man tried to abduct me in a volcano! Count Galatea: And he was a doctor. When I was your age I would have paid to have been abducted by a doctor in a volcano.
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Bruceski posted:Because I was looking them up myself, here's all the Innate Abilities along with what they actually do, which is missing from the Google Doc. You get these by mastering a master class with particular characters. Good stuff. Where is the google doc you are referring to?
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I will say, while I have no idea how str/mag really affect damage to the point where I can't quite tell the difference from my 30 mag Monica vs 50 mag Lysithea, drat do I notice Lysithea's amazing 13 defense. Especially as I'm finding what is failing my s ranks is damage taken. She needs to spend some time as a tin can.
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Honestly I feel like what lets the mage classes down isn't their combos, it's their terrible defense combined with how static the moveset is. You're guaranteed to get butt shanked for a billion damage while fighting in a crowd because the moves have no movement at all.
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Kanos posted:Honestly I feel like what lets the mage classes down isn't their combos, it's their terrible defense combined with how static the moveset is. You're guaranteed to get butt shanked for a billion damage while fighting in a crowd because the moves have no movement at all. That and for some reason they counter archers. Archers who deal physical damage and have a longer range than them. When mages have no defense. Even with an A rank battalion for -65% damage taken they still get shredded if you mess up.
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I dunno, maybe it'll change closer to the end game but Hubert has stayed in his little mage cubby and he's consistently been an MvP when I field him.
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Chinook posted:Good stuff. Where is the google doc you are referring to? Assuming it's this one, has all kinds of useful info. Incidentally, it DOES have the descriptions of what all the Innate Abilities do, on the Abilities tab starting at line 1146
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