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I can't remember what season it is, but I felt it went downhill when instead of everyone interacting they all split off to do their own thing, with frequent scenes which did nothing except say "hey these people still exist we haven't forgotten about them they just don't have anything to do right now"
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Remember when GoT made the Sand Snakes up to us by giving 2/3 gratuitous ironic deaths at the hands of beloved character Euron while Bad Pussy got to suffer at the hands of Cersei
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Jun 29, 2022 20:57
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:This is one of my favorite posts to come out of the finale: kind of a stupid post though
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Jun 29, 2022 20:59
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Remember when GoT made the Sand Snakes up to us by giving 2/3 gratuitous ironic deaths at the hands of beloved character Euron while Bad Pussy got to suffer at the hands of Cersei I just found that stupid. It wasn't the actresses fault that they had poo poo all to work with and the characters could have grown and become better without y'know having to bounce of ser Bronn the Awesome and instead they go lol the sandsnakes suck now let's have Euron the Pirate murder them.
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Jun 29, 2022 21:00
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Season 5 also has Brienne and Pod’s trip to save Sansa in the North, where literally nothing happens since Ramsay kills all the Stark resistance off screen.
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Jun 29, 2022 21:02
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my favorite part of the dorne plotline was when jaime tried to rescue/kidnap myrcella in broad daylight in the middle of the castle courtyard and was immediately surrounded by a bunch of guards and then they had the worst fight scene in the whole show because they shot the whole scene in some famous spanish castle that they could only film in for like an hour at a time
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Jun 29, 2022 21:03
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Honestly, and this is not a dig on the actor in any way shape or form Ramsey might have been one of the worst characters for me for a while.
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Jun 29, 2022 21:06
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An insane mind posted:Honestly, and this is not a dig on the actor in any way shape or form Ramsey might have been one of the worst characters for me for a while. Oh yeah, he basically just turned into a fantasy version of Dark Knight Joker. The show really jumped off a cliff for me after that scene where Yara tried to rescue Theon and a naked Ramsay fought off a squad of armored soldiers.
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Jun 29, 2022 21:09
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Ramsey has so many scenes that don't actually advance any plot or character, just "yup, this guy is still a psychopath"
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Jun 29, 2022 21:10
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:Oh yeah, he basically just turned into a fantasy version of Dark Knight Joker. The show really jumped off a cliff for me after that scene where Yara tried to rescue Theon and a naked Ramsay fought off a squad of armored soldiers. Lol my mind had blanked all of s3-s4 Ramsay and Theon. An entire season of just random cuts to the Theon torture porn scenes, a finale of going to rescue the poor guy, then one five minute mission next season of "poo poo, gently caress, gently caress, this naked man can dual wield and that's the ironborn plot.
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Jun 29, 2022 21:35
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:Oh yeah, he basically just turned into a fantasy version of Dark Knight Joker. The show really jumped off a cliff for me after that scene where Yara tried to rescue Theon and a naked Ramsay fought off a squad of armored soldiers. The show in general decided to depict the Ironborn as arrogant, incompetent buffoons, it's really strange. They're supposed to be fantasy vikings, right? Extremely adept sailors whose homeland is unforgivingly harsh and whose entire culture is built around raiding. But they get clowned on every time. Most scenes I can think of with the Ironborn are funny in some way. Shirtless Ramsay fending them off is funny, Theon's speech in Winterfell is funny. Even when Euron is winning and killing off characters we're supposed to like, it's so goddamn silly. He's a cartoon all the time. I think it's just laziness, because Theon personally is an arrogant, insecure paper tiger of a man, but they kind of just extrapolated Theon's poser-ness to the entire Iron Islands.
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Jun 29, 2022 22:09
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL_ImXC6ePk Theon's speech is pretty cartoony but it slaps tho
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Jun 29, 2022 22:16
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL_ImXC6ePk I actually really love that scene, because it shows how much the Starks have got into Theons head. That speech would totally work on a gang of northmen making a valiant last stand. Ironborn.... Not so much.
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Jun 29, 2022 22:49
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It took me like a solid minute trying to think of something good in season 5, and then I remembered it was the season that had Hardhome, so there is that I guess
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I like how Ralph Ineson's whole plot was to convince Theon to takeback Winterfell and then as soon as they're surrounded bash Theon's head in and die.
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Jun 30, 2022 00:13
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Xealot posted:The show in general decided to depict the Ironborn as arrogant, incompetent buffoons, it's really strange. They're supposed to be fantasy vikings, right? Extremely adept sailors whose homeland is unforgivingly harsh and whose entire culture is built around raiding. But they get clowned on every time. Most scenes I can think of with the Ironborn are funny in some way. Shirtless Ramsay fending them off is funny, Theon's speech in Winterfell is funny. Even when Euron is winning and killing off characters we're supposed to like, it's so goddamn silly. He's a cartoon all the time. A few seasons in to the show, factions tended to get boiled down to a handful of adjectives and the same uniforms that they wore day in and out. Euron was just two frat boys writing themselves into the show. If Winds ever comes out, I'm most looking forward to the Ironborn landing in Meereen and just clowning on all of the weird armies on stilts and chained together that are sieging the city.
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I'm almost done with season four now. I had totally forgotten about the Tale of Orson Lannister, who crushed beetles all day every day, until finally dying after being kicked in the chest by a mule.
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MrMojok posted:I'm alnost done with season four now. I had totally forgotten about the Tale of Orson Lannister, who crushed beetles all day every day, until finally dying after being kicked in the chest by a mule. HBO is working on a spinoff starring Orson right now! uber_stoat fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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Jun 30, 2022 00:46
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Ah, season 4 Remember being excited to see more dornish characters Remember Areo Hotah
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Shoulda done Darkstar
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Just finished S4. Believe it or not, I managed to watch the first four seasons of this show as they originally aired, while completely avoiding spoilers. Avoided all GoT spoilers for like four years, man. I had bought an SA account a few years before, but had not posted much or read the forums at all. I only knew one person who had read the books back then, and she was careful not to spoil anything. I knew absolutely nothing, Jon Snow. Oberyn’s death was yet another in a long series of shocking moments, for me. I should have seen it coming when he started strutting around Clegane’s prostrate body screaming CONFESS! but I didn’t. Good times!
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The entire Tyrell AND Faith Militant plot being literally exploded with absolutely zero repercussions should have been the sign to everyone that the show was now irredeemably bad but people were too wrapped up in how visually cool it looked. yeah this drove me nuts! Season 1-4 (because it was based on what Gurm had actually written) had *consequences*. Oh poo poo, they killed off Ned Stark! But now his loyal bannermen are going to push his son to become King in the North for a number of explicable reasons, and now the Starks will seek vengeance! In later seasons Ellaria kills Doran and then I guess she's in charge because the Daynes and Yronwoods and Velaryons were like "oh cool that makes sense." And Cersei murders the leader of the Tyrells and his beloved children and the pope and all their soldiers in the city go "oh drag dude, best go back home" hosed up!
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Pattonesque posted:In later seasons Ellaria kills Doran and then I guess she's in charge because the Daynes and Yronwoods and Velaryons were like "oh cool that makes sense." And Cersei murders the leader of the Tyrells and his beloved children and the pope and all their soldiers in the city go "oh drag dude, best go back home" The Dornish line of succession goes Patriarch, then Patriarch's dead brother's girlfriend. Don't mess with success.
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MrMojok posted:I'm almost done with season four now. I had totally forgotten about the Tale of Orson Lannister, who crushed beetles all day every day, until finally dying after being kicked in the chest by a mule. That was them making fun of GRRM for killing off every loving character, and Orson Scott Card for being a drooling concave brained prick who probably should also be kicked square in the chest by a mule at some point.
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Pattonesque posted:yeah this drove me nuts! Season 1-4 (because it was based on what Gurm had actually written) had *consequences*. Oh poo poo, they killed off Ned Stark! But now his loyal bannermen are going to push his son to become King in the North for a number of explicable reasons, and now the Starks will seek vengeance! And then all the returned soldiers die off screen except for like three dudes on a staircase. RIP breadbasket of the realm. Also rip loot train. I really, really wanted to see some consequences for every faction in the war loving over the grain-producing largest population kingdom but nah, it turns out it was fine. Winter wasn't coming after all. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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"Unnamed Dorne Prince" is just the funniest loving thing, just incredibly lazy
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:And then all the returned soldiers die off screen except for like three dudes on a staircase. RIP breadbasket of the realm. Highgarden falls in like 10 minutes! and then Olenna is like "oh well we sucked at fighting!" none of them suck at fighting! They all have huge loving armies! If they sucked at fighting they wouldn't be what they are!
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Pattonesque posted:Highgarden falls in like 10 minutes! and then Olenna is like "oh well we sucked at fighting!" No, don't you understand that their sign was a flower?! The other side's sign was a lion! That means that they can't win!
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Ah, season 4 Still kinda pissed off that they wasted Alexander Siddig
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DaveWoo posted:Still kinda pissed off that they wasted Alexander Siddig Imagine the hours we could have gotten of Siddig going back and forth with other masters but instead got "Dick? I like it." "I bet you do."
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HonorableTB posted:I honestly can't tell you any of what happened in Season 5 aside from the Bad Pussy because that was when the quality was undeniably careening into the abyss it. was. hot.
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:Imagine the hours we could have gotten of Siddig going back and forth with other masters but instead got "Dick? I like it." "I bet you do." Flanderization of Tormund aside that was a good exchange though.
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An insane mind posted:I just found that stupid. It wasn't the actresses fault that they had poo poo all to work with and the characters could have grown and become better without y'know having to bounce of ser Bronn the Awesome and instead they go lol the sandsnakes suck now let's have Euron the Pirate murder them.
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Superhero level poo poo where people must use a signature weapon for branding reasons rather than shanking motherfuckers by whatever means was most effective. In the same show which in earlier seasons had Bronn remark on the perils of fighting with honor and Jorah demonstrate exactly why making fun of people wearing heavy armour as pussies might result in you not having the last laugh, and then having the Hound spell it out later in case you missed it.
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Piell posted:"Unnamed Dorne Prince" is just the funniest loving thing, just incredibly lazy Hey! Put some respect on ????? Martell(?)'s name!
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Always said the only good (proper) ending to GoT would be a peasants' revolt but neither George nor the showrunners are brave enough to do that.Shimrra Jamaane posted:The entire Tyrell AND Faith Militant plot being literally exploded with absolutely zero repercussions should have been the sign to everyone that the show was now irredeemably bad but people were too wrapped up in how visually cool it looked. I've probably posted about it a dozen times in this thread but her blowing up the sept was the one time since season 4 I thought the show would go back to being a show about politics and then there are no consequences for it and the Lannisters just roll over their opposition lol
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The unnamed Dorne prince will always be Darkstar to me
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I love that everyone apparently thought Cersei blowing up the Sept would be the start of some ongoing plotlines, when in context of the completed show it only reads as the end of a bunch of them.
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Qwertycoatl posted:I can't remember what season it is, but I felt it went downhill when instead of everyone interacting they all split off to do their own thing, with frequent scenes which did nothing except say "hey these people still exist we haven't forgotten about them they just don't have anything to do right now" Hell, Bran was missing for an entire season because they didn't have anything for him to do. Who has a better story than that?
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I like the bran council scene at the end for them bringing back the glown-up Sweetrobin
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