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spacemang_spliff posted:lol wait ok so I'm a dumbass when it comes to lawyering but if they agree that the state can pass unconstitutional law how does that square with the scrotus being able to do judicial review Simple: GOP state and federal laws must be upheld while Democratic laws must be overturned.
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spacemang_spliff posted:yeah but like why sure, i guess, but that wouldn't do anything, and then the state will run the elections as the legislature wants while ignoring the state courts
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ShutteredIn posted:Hahaha SCOTUS is just straight up telling everyone the end date of whatever is left of democracy in this country and nobody will do anything about it there's no need to be so cynical, the leaked Roe decision enabled the Democrats to use the time leading up to the case to put together a comprehensive strategy to address the changes coming from the court
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spacemang_spliff posted:yeah but like why That's their goal, yes
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Like you're getting at the issue of "why does anyone listen to the supreme court when it overrules common sense," and we know the answer to that is that not doing that the supreme court says would undermine the public's faith in the legitimacy of the supreme court
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we just need to get a case challenging judicial review up to scotus and then the originalists, finding no constitutional basis for judicial review, will be forced to (figuratively) hara kiri themselves — or else they’d be hypocrites!! bing bong
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Shear Modulus posted:Like you're getting at the issue of "why does anyone listen to the supreme court when it overrules common sense," and we know the answer to that is that not doing that the supreme court says would undermine the public's faith in the legitimacy of the supreme court Human lives are short and cheap but our institutions are sacred and eternal
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a_pineapple posted:* abolishes the EPA * I wouldn’t say the EPA will make things better but the world is going to end even faster now.
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Shear Modulus posted:Like you're getting at the issue of "why does anyone listen to the supreme court when it overrules common sense," and we know the answer to that is that not doing that the supreme court says would undermine the public's faith in the legitimacy of the supreme court I know I'm commiebrained but like does anyone actually think the supreme court is legitimate other than when it does something that a person agrees with like say hypothetically the Dobbs decision was that abortion was a constitutional right and the states have no ability to regulate abortion then like all the chuds would be yelling about the courts illegitimacy rather than the libcucks
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:we just need to get a case challenging judicial review up to scotus and then the originalists, finding no constitutional basis for judicial review, will be forced to (figuratively) hara kiri themselves — or else they’d be hypocrites!! 1 simple trick, Scalia hates this!
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lol I just remembered the time I was listening to an NPR interview with Scalia about torture and he brought up the show 24 e: I also just remembered when Scalia said "jiggerypockery" in a decision and NPR creamed their jeans about it for a week lol
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oh no, the supreme court would still have power over state legislatures because they claim that when they say something it has the force of the constitution, which trumps all other law at all levels.
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Shear Modulus posted:oh no, the supreme court would still have power over state legislatures because they claim that when they say something it has the force of the constitution, which trumps all other law at all levels. yeah if the supreme court doesn't have power over something they can just decide they do, kinda like when congress wants to ignore a rule and they hold a meeting and decide they can do it anyway
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spacemang_spliff posted:e: I also just remembered when Scalia said "jiggerypockery" in a decision and NPR creamed their jeans about it for a week lol whether one loved him or hated him one has to admit scalia was quite the card ho ho ho
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the Supreme Court doesn't feel like dictating foreign policy yet. That's for after the administrative state is abolished
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spacemang_spliff posted:I know I'm commiebrained but like does anyone actually think the supreme court is legitimate other than when it does something that a person agrees with The thing here is one side does stuff with power and the other side doesn't You're tripping yourself up by thinking "does anyone think SCOTUS is legit" (no) or "could [x Dem person/state] refuse to listen" (they could try if they had spines, which they don't), which is complete overthinking of the fact that the actual normal people who will be most hurt by this have no power or say at all, and the representatives they've misguidedly elected to fight for them simply don't care and will not fight this The president had to be bullied into saying he'd consider a hypothetical adjustment to the filibuster for abortion protection and still conned the Internet by only saying it after the fact hours past another different dying Dem in power being hospitalized, freeing up his vote and making it even harder to achieve this even if it was something he really wanted to do in the first place None of that gets into what they'd do if it actually got fought and wound up coming back to them for the inevitable denial of it again. It won't get that far. Because nobody who wants to do anything about it, and can, feels like it's worth trying
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:whether one loved him or hated him one has to admit scalia was quite the card ho ho ho He died on my birthday and I think it might have been the last time I was genuinely happy with life
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Jim Crow's back, but also in the midwest Indiana politicians are so excited right now
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Atrocious Joe posted:Indiana politicians are so excited right now The flyover state equivalent of all those chuds who are sad they were born too late to go live in Rhodesia.
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Atrocious Joe posted:the Supreme Court doesn't feel like dictating foreign policy yet. That's for after the administrative state is abolished Note that this ‘victory’ is just a remand to the original judge with a ‘use this part of the APA instead’ instruction
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this is a state scotus but read this for a preview of red states with a dem gov near you https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1542428147571892225
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spacemang_spliff posted:lol wait ok so I'm a dumbass when it comes to lawyering but if they agree that the state can pass unconstitutional law how does that square with the scrotus being able to do judicial review it will authorize blue states with gerrymandered red legislatures to make up their own presidential electors with no oversight.
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spacemang_spliff posted:
Shadowrun at least had magic and trolls and poo poo
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quote:Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., writing for the majority, said Congress had not clearly given the agency sweeping authority to regulate the energy industry. "crisis of the day" lmfao
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spacemang_spliff posted:I know I'm commiebrained but like does anyone actually think the supreme court is legitimate other than when it does something that a person agrees with It seems like liberals think it's legitimate no matter what, but that's it. In that hypothetical yeah the republicans would be pissed but the official legalese argument is never that the court hosed up because the outcome is bad, it's that the court hosed up because they made a mistake in interpreting the constitution. it's like saying that the ruling is illegitimate because it wouldn't pass peer review.
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the liberals i guess say that the court can't issue illegitimate rulings because whatever the supreme court says is correct because the supreme court said it
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Cloks posted:there's no need to be so cynical, the leaked Roe decision enabled the Democrats to use the time leading up to the case to put together a comprehensive fundraising strategy to address the changes coming from the court
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it’s hilarious that scotus will say state supreme courts can’t review state election matters because it’s not written down somewhere but they are allowed to review whatever they want despite that not being written down anywhere 😂😂🤡🤡🌅
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Shear Modulus posted:It seems like liberals think it's legitimate no matter what, but that's it. There was serious talk about outright nullifying the court among the religious right back in the 90s
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Der Meister posted:it’s hilarious that scotus will say state supreme courts can’t review state election matters because it’s not written down somewhere but they are allowed to review whatever they want despite that not being written down anywhere 😂😂🤡🤡🌅 there are no implied rights in the constitution except for the right of the supreme court to unilaterally interpret the constitution
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Enjoy your summer. October is the end of it all.
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DesertIslandHermit posted:Enjoy your summer. October is the end of it all. hey now we have til next summer til the ruling's released
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Shear Modulus posted:there are no implied rights in the constitution except for the right of the supreme court to unilaterally interpret the constitution 🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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spacemang_spliff posted:I know I'm commiebrained but like does anyone actually think the supreme court is legitimate other than when it does something that a person agrees with the joy of being commiebrained is being able to say that the supreme court is as legitimate as any of the branches of the federal government
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HashtagGirlboss posted:We don’t know yet. Cowards won’t release the stupid opinion gotta wait until quitting time Friday for the spicy poo poo
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