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Apocron posted:So you don’t have to dilute it or anything? Seems like it’s worth a shot! Just buy a wet palette, some small brushes, a set of this and get started? I would really surprised if you didn't need to thin it to at least some degree. I've not had much success in having my wet palette be enough to thin my paints, and I'm fairly sure I'm using it correctly. Just mixing in some water with your brush or from a tiny eye dropper will do. Or, investing in some paint medium. I fill like if you begin painting with this set and learn to make new color via mixing you'll have a sorta big leg up on all the guys (me) who just bespoke pots for each color.
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I think the wet palette sponge or temperature may have an effect on whether the palette itself will thin paints. I have a small army painter wet palette, and lately everything has been coming off really watery from it, even without manually diluting. As an aside, would dark purple work well for alpha legion cloaks? The glossy nature of the armor makes it hard to judge these things.
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Yeah ambient humidity might do it too, I live in Vancouver which is, well, kinda damp most of the time. If I want some really thin paint then yeah I need to add a little bit of water on top of the palette but for just general painting it's good enough to drag on the palette paper. Liquitex's Acrylic Gouache basically acts just like Vallejo paint. Here are some WIP Guardians I've been working on. The paints in the back are all I used aside from some blue for the eyes and turquoise for the dangling cloth. One's a little yellower than the other because I went brighter in the shading with the Yellow Oxide + Unbleached Titanium mix but as you can see you can get a lot of colour going with what is basically Red, Yellow and Off White. I'm not an amazing painter so you can see the brush strokes from my layering but I decided to lean into it and let it look a little painted by hand rather than the hyper smooth airbrush blends a lot of people go for.
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It seems like all the stuff in the OP is from 2015/2016. I don't suppose there's some updated resources for what would be a good youtube intro series to painting?
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Apocron posted:I just bought Marvel Crisis Protocol core and would like to buy some paints but I'm in Japan and the hobby paint section of the large store I went into was mostly focused on painting mecha models. As such they had Tamiya, Mr Hobby/Color, Gaianotes, GodHand and V Color products. Would any of these work or are there any other Japanese paints I could try? Or are they all pretty bad for beginners and I should look to import paints or look for a more niche hobby shop? Can confirm that especially in Tokyo it's pretty easy to find a Warhammer store (I think they've got 4 or 5, plus a Warhammer Cafe opening up soon), but also over the past 5 years or so GW has been making a push into chain stores with hobby sections and some of the bigger Gundam-oriented chains. Yodobashi Camera will often have a Citadel paint rack in their toy and hobby section, and if you can find a Joshin near you they ought to carry Citadel. For Vallejo there's a chain called Volk's that carries creepy ball-joint dolls, anime figures, military models, and Vallejo. (This is all assuming you want the reliability of big-brand miniature-painting acrylics and the ability to buy something in person in a store, naturally.) If you're out in the sticks you may still be in luck thanks to that hobby shop push. I used to go to a shipping-container sized hobby shop out in the sticks in Gifu that still had a comprehensive Citadel rack.
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If you're in Japan and have access to Tamiya/Me Hobby stuff at the regional pricing, then that's a gold mine of great hobby supplies.
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I wanna get some of the tamiya panel line stuff
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I wanna get some of the tamiya panel line stuff Go grab it! Great stuff, and I love that it it has a brush on the cap. Carried at just about any and every online/offline hobby shop in the world. Just make sure you have some enamel/lacquer thinner for cleanup, since you'll usually get a small dot where you initially touched the brush to the panel line.
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Do the new contrast paints come out tomorrow or next wee
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Acrylic gouache is awesome, highly recommend it. Painted these back when I was still learning using just CMYK liquitex acrylic gouache. 
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You can thin Tamiya acrylic with water. It's not gonna explode. Just the other day I used Tamiya flat red + Liquitex glaze medium + water to make a glaze for 8 preshaded dudes.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Go grab it! Great stuff, and I love that it it has a brush on the cap. Carried at just about any and every online/offline hobby shop in the world. Just make sure you have some enamel/lacquer thinner for cleanup, since you'll usually get a small dot where you initially touched the brush to the panel line. How is it different from a wash? I was just in a hobby shop run by an old lady in Korea and was about to pick some up. Ended up getting a ton of the Tamiya Weathering Master stuff instead.
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Wrr posted:How is it different from a wash? I was just in a hobby shop run by an old lady in Korea and was about to pick some up. Ended up getting a ton of the Tamiya Weathering Master stuff instead. It's not particularly different, but most bottled washes tend to be acrylic, at least for minis. The panel liners from Tamiya are enamels, and it only comes in three colors (black, brown, grey). Enamels are just a lot simpler for panel lining, since you don't have to work quick like you do with acrylics. You could panel line an entire tank, and then come back after to do cleanup with some thinner. With acrylics, you can really only do a small handful of lines at a time, before you have to do cleanup with water before they become immovable. And you could certainly mix your own enamel or oil wash for panel-lining, but it's nice to have a product ready to go right out of the bottle with brush included.
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ijyt posted:If you're in Japan and have access to Tamiya/Me Hobby stuff at the regional pricing, then that's a gold mine of great hobby supplies. That’s what I thought. The prices all looked super cheap to me but I just don’t think there’s much stuff about how to use the stuff effectively for miniature painting. But maybe that’s just me wanting someone to hold my hand and I should be a bit more adventurous.
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Apocron posted:That’s what I thought. The prices all looked super cheap to me but I just don’t think there’s much stuff about how to use the stuff effectively for miniature painting. But maybe that’s just me wanting someone to hold my hand and I should be a bit more adventurous. Did they have Mr. Hobby Acrysion? (not their regular or Aqueous line) Those are relatively new all-water and acrylic paints from them, so it would be like using Vallejo or GW paints. Pretty much all miniature painting tutorials are with water-based acrylics unless they say otherwise.
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Apocron posted:I should be a bit more adventurous. "You will mess these up, then you will buy more and mess those up"
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Lumpy posted:"You will mess these up, then you will buy more and mess those up" Hey, speaking of which, I got my first airbrush. It is one of those portable deals so I can take it outside. My friend had a good experience with this one, but we will see.
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Bored Online posted:Hey, speaking of which, I got my first airbrush. It is one of those portable deals so I can take it outside. My friend had a good experience with this one, but we will see. Portable how? Is it hooked up to a CO2 tank, or one of those ones that attaches to a spray canister of propellant?
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Portable how? Is it hooked up to a CO2 tank, or one of those ones that attaches to a spray canister of propellant? It has a portable battery powered compressor attached to it that is the size of two vape rigs duct taped together.
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I found the portable air compressor ones to have really low air pressure but your mileage may vary.
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Cross post from the 30k thread. Figuring out a good metallic blue technique was a lot of trial and errorCount Thrashula posted:Finally dialed in my Alpha Legion blue. It's a bit more greenish in person, but I couldn't get that to come through in pictures.
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Count Thrashula posted:Cross post from the 30k thread. Figuring out a good metallic blue technique was a lot of trial and error You do need transfers ! It looks great so far, although with a blue model I'd be hard pressed to not put red tips on the missiles.
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mllaneza posted:You do need transfers ! It looks great so far, although with a blue model I'd be hard pressed to not put red tips on the missiles. Oooh red tips is a great idea, that'd complement really well.
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Finished my Imperial Fists version of Armor Through the Ages:   Doing Blood Angels next: 
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Looking great! If you run out of legions and are still eager for more I’d love to see mine done!
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Loden Taylor posted:Finished my Imperial Fists version of Armor Through the Ages: These are amazing, can't wait to see more
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Loden Taylor posted:Finished my Imperial Fists version of Armor Through the Ages: That is so fuckin cool.
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What should I buy to paint a couple D&D minis? The campaign I'm DMing will finish up in a couple months and I want to paint minis for the final fight. Should I get the Vallejo game color paint set? Or would the army painter speedpaint starter set be better for a new painter? And are sets even worth it? Or should I pick up a handful of a few different things? I did some painting years ago, but never was any good and my paints are all gone after a few moves.
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anchorite posted:What should I buy to paint a couple D&D minis? The campaign I'm DMing will finish up in a couple months and I want to paint minis for the final fight. Should I get the Vallejo game color paint set? Or would the army painter speedpaint starter set be better for a new painter? And are sets even worth it? Or should I pick up a handful of a few different things? Often paint sets are a trap, unless it’s a very small set. It’s usually better, especially if you have a store nearby, to get a few basic paints and then buy more when you end up really needing them. I have not tested army painters quick paints yet, but I’ve heard good things about them. If I were painting for DMing, where you often want to paint up several minis and monsters and stuff, I think a quick painting system makes a lot of sense. Then you can focus first on making them table ready, and later on go back and pick out details if you want to.
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Starting off at level 1 as grey plastic and adding a layer of detail with every level up.
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anchorite posted:What should I buy to paint a couple D&D minis? The campaign I'm DMing will finish up in a couple months and I want to paint minis for the final fight. Should I get the Vallejo game color paint set? Or would the army painter speedpaint starter set be better for a new painter? And are sets even worth it? Or should I pick up a handful of a few different things? I love speedpaints and contrast paints (GWs equivalent) but personally wouldnt recommend them for absolute beginners tbh because they have their own idiosyncrasies and crucially are comparitively difficult to fix mistakes with. Once you've got decent brush control and can put paint where you want it to go 90% of the time they're a great tool, but for a learner you are potentially making your life more difficult. You get regular blue acrylic on a figures regular acryilic red shirt, you can fix it. Get blue speedpaint on a red speedpaint shirt and its kind of a hassle to sort. Again, one mans opinion, some people disagree, and you said you have at least some painting experience. I'd recommend getting a few basic colours and a black or dark brown wash (agrax earthshade from GW is fine, strong tone from army painter is fine, whatever). If you want to buy a starter set, you can, but I always say to count the paints in the set you will definitely use in the next month or so, then divide the cost of the box by the number of paints you'll definitely use. If it comes out as cheaper than buying those particular paints individually then youre good, otherwise you'd be better off buying the paints a la carte. Some paint kits come with extra stuff (paintbrushes, tools, a mini, whatever), dont count them in the value proposition as they tend to be kind of cheap. I mean, useable, a nice bonus and all, but not worth swaying your decision for. There are some decent, to me, starter sets out there, but that doesnt mean they would be decent to you. For example if a starter set has a lot of human skin tones in it, but you are specifically going to be painting orcs and zombies, thats not so useful. If your campaign finale is going to be the battle of a million skeletons you only really need an ivory and a sepia wash. Actually "Its mainly going to be skeletons" is one of the cases where I actually would recommend a speedpaint/contrast paint to a beginner, because gently caress it, its 90% bone, how bad can it go. You can go a long way towards a good tabletop standard with a cheap brush or two, a handful of colours and a dark wash (theres a reason people sometimes refer to wash as "liquid skill"), basecoat, wash then drybrush. Once you've got a grip of that (and presuming you enjoy it and want to do more) you can branch out. Brand of paint is frankly down to personal preference. We all have our own paint preferences and prejudices, but realistically they're all at least fine, with some good paints and some not so good paints in every range. Vallejo are generally agreed to be pretty good overall, so if thats what your local hobby shop sells you can absolutely go with those.
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If I was starting over with brands I would probably stick to vallejo game and model color. GW has some great colors but the main benefit is how many tutorials out there use specific GW paints, and for that luxury you pay a ton more per volume over vallejo. But these days most of my go-to recipes use GW colors. It’s all a matter of preference especially if you don’t need to be thrifty, but that’s what occurred to me recently
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If your goal is to just produce some playable miniatures quickly, it's hard to go wrong with a rattle can of whiteish spray (Wraithbone, the new pure white spray from Citadel) and some contrast paints to just paint over the areas. It's minimal effort, super easy, and produces miniatures that are very much good enough.
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anchorite posted:What should I buy to paint a couple D&D minis? The campaign I'm DMing will finish up in a couple months and I want to paint minis for the final fight. Should I get the Vallejo game color paint set? Or would the army painter speedpaint starter set be better for a new painter? And are sets even worth it? Or should I pick up a handful of a few different things? If it's just a few D&D minis, like the D&D branded ones, they come pre primed. Reaper MSP starter set is cheap and decent, or if youre only doing a few models just grab a few colors you're gonna use, brand won't matter much.
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If I had no paints and a handful of D&D minis to paint at the moment, I would get the Army Painter Warpaints: Starter Paint Set and do everyone in full technicolor cartoon style. But that's because I'm really digging that old "Games Workshop red period" look at the moment in general. 
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Speaking of Tamiya, Clear Red will do for gold what Streaking Grime / gunky oil washes do for grimdark. I havent tried other Clear colors for different metals, but the enamel/oil 'wash and remove' technique can be used for much more than gunking things up. Tamiya Clear is the secret sauce for making metallics look awesome in my opinion. Rather than dimming/matting the metal it adds depths and shininess.
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PederP posted:Speaking of Tamiya, Clear Red will do for gold what Streaking Grime / gunky oil washes do for grimdark. I havent tried other Clear colors for different metals, but the enamel/oil 'wash and remove' technique can be used for much more than gunking things up. Tamiya Clear is the secret sauce for making metallics look awesome in my opinion. Rather than dimming/matting the metal it adds depths and shininess. Have you got any examples?I have a desire to learn more.
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Mortimer Knag posted:If it's just a few D&D minis, like the D&D branded ones, they come pre primed. Reaper MSP starter set is cheap and decent, or if youre only doing a few models just grab a few colors you're gonna use, brand won't matter much. I just painted a couple pre primed models and wasn’t super impressed by the primer, which reacted more like unwashed plastic.
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Professor Shark posted:Looking great! If you run out of legions and are still eager for more I’d love to see mine done! GW should feel bad that they haven't already done this for all
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