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Space Cadet Omoly posted:And Adachi was able to do it because gently caress the rules we live in a society.
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Booky posted:oh hey it seems like theres now a newer (wip) patch of restoring p1s psx ost on the psp? https://gamebanana.com/wips/68611
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Twelve by Pies posted:Having played Nocturne on Switch, I can also assure you it struggles to handle games from 2003. The weird thing about Nocturne is it plays perfectly in handheld mode.
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AnonymouseNo5 posted:I actually started to watch that for Akihiko but stopped for some reason. I forget why. I admit, I watched this series before I played P3 but I have no memory of the show other Aki showing up so you didn't miss out much.
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girl dick energy posted:On one hand, being able to play Persona 5 on the Switch sounds fantastic. On the other hand, the Switch already struggles to handle games from 2016. I tried playing Xcom2 on ps4 and it runs like poo poo. The game is just bad on all consoles.
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Had a random thought about how the skip function in P4/G would be totally lost on most anybody age 20 or so. It's clearly modelled on how you'd fast forward a VHS tape - sound and visuals and everything - but who had a VCR in the mid-2010s or later? Kids coming to P4G on Steam might have no idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjEyzwFwgP0&t=72s I remember somebody in here a while back wondering about the fact they still had tube TVs at the time of the game but I bet more kids have seen those than seen VCRs.
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I feel like it's still a pretty common stock effect.
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Teachs I know tell me they got kids who will walk up to computer monitors and smash their fingers into it, most of 'em have never seen a computer that wasn't a touch screen
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NikkolasKing posted:Had a random thought about how the skip function in P4/G would be totally lost on most anybody age 20 or so. Luckily it's still a cool effect even if you don't know what t's based on, a lot of stuff in life is like that where you don't remember how it started it but you just accept it for what it is. Like, no one worships the Norse Goddess of love anymore, but we still have a day of the week called "Friday"
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Like, no one worships the Norse Goddess of love anymore, but we still have a day of the week called "Friday" SHUN THE NONBELIEVER
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There are multiple pagans posting on this very site
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Like, no one worships the Norse Goddess of love anymore, but we still have a day of the week called "Friday" that's so last friday
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NikkolasKing posted:Had a random thought about how the skip function in P4/G would be totally lost on most anybody age 20 or so. The elementary schools I work at still have a few VCRs kicking around so it's not lost on everyone.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:The elementary schools I work at still have a few VCRs kicking around so it's not lost on everyone. This is really interesting to hear! Please tell me they're attached to those big ol' AV carts we had back in the day? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gj8Yel2bUY&t=24s
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Gaius Marius posted:There are multiple pagans posting on this very site Alright, fair enough, maybe this is a better example of what I'm talking about :  The symbols of the past remain even after what they were originally meant to invoke is no longer remembered.
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NikkolasKing posted:This is really interesting to hear! Nah, we've got projectors in each room. Those with VHS just wire it up to them. The issue is twofold: there's a lot of content that was available on VHS that's licensed to be used in a classroom setting. Getting up to date content on modern media either doesn't have a direct replacement, or has costs involved. Probably both. The little I've had to delve into that setting has been a nightmare. Most of it has been smooth over the decades, but apparently there's a few missing things here and there. I think at this point most of it is just on youtube in a grey state of copyright, but there are a few companies that exist solely to provide (mostly streamed) content for schools and other organizations, and licensing/copyright is enforced rigorously. The other side is some teachers (a minority, to be fair) just don't want to find up to date material. Their lovely vhs tape covered what they wanted in 1991, so that's what they're using now.
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NikkolasKing posted:Had a random thought about how the skip function in P4/G would be totally lost on most anybody age 20 or so. Persona 4 does have a lot of retro TV motifs that go back even further than that like the big stack of 60s/70s looking TVs in the TV world entrance / original opening movie, and a lot of UI elements like the combat menu and "advance dialogue" button being based on the shape of an old TV dial. It was a deliberately retro themed game already. Schools, at least public schools always seem to use hilariously outdated technology, when I was in middle school around the year 2000 they were still showing us filmstrips of all things. (For those not in the know, it's a presentation on a slide projector with a pre-recorded voice-over track playing along with it. You change the slide when it plays a little beep or some of the more advanced ones change slide automatically. The ones my school used were probably from the 60s or 70s) (Also I looked up the Twitter thread and the guy who asks why the save icon is a vending machine is just trolling) Item Getter fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Jul 6, 2022 |
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Item Getter posted:Schools, at least public schools always seem to use hilariously outdated technology, when I was in middle school around the year 2000 they were still showing us filmstrips of all things. (For those not in the know, it's a presentation on a slide projector with a pre-recorded voice-over track playing along with it. You change the slide when it plays a little beep or some of the more advanced ones change slide automatically. The ones my school used were probably from the 60s or 70s) I had to watch a 60’s anti-drug film strip in high school just like this in 2005. I’m pretty sure the recorded track was on a vinyl record.
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I picked up P4U2 (P4AU?) today because I never played it the first time round and I have to say the pixel graphics look fantastic if you're playing it on the switch in handheld mode. It's pretty much a perfect match.
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P5 had the same fast forward effect, didn't it?
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I’ve been playing more of P4G on vacation after a long break and I’m just about to go save Rise. My opinion hasn’t really changed, still pretty good but not quite as interesting as 5R. I will say that I kept waiting for the cringe to be ramped up and even getting through Kanji’s dungeon it’s kept to a minimum but man they really make Yosuke into a gross loser don’t they? And I now see what people are talking about with Kanji, the game truly does feel like it’s trying to tell you that he only thought he was gay because he didn’t like interacting with girls because they made fun of him and now he’s “fixed” I guess? Weird as hell, I wish the game would just let the kid be gay, he’d be a far more consistent character. I’m also shocked that wasn’t even the worst part, everything with Hanako makes me want to die even more than Yosuke or Teddy when they’re being gross.
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Yosuke just feels like a wasted opportunity to me. Like, he's supposed to be your best friend in this new town but the only thing you have in common is that you're both not from there. In p5 you meet ryuji and by the end of the same day when you're eating noodles together it's a genuine 'yeah we're bros for life now' His motivation for catching the culprit and most of his social stuff centres around avenging the death of a co worker who didn't actually like him which just feels kind of flat. The real weird thing was that you get a moment in the same vein as when Mona leaves in p5 but way better. After nanako dies yosuke says outright 'we have the guy who (as far as we know) killed nanako and saki-senpai and we know we can never prove he did it. let's just kill him now by pushing him into the TV. they can never prove we killed him and this goes away forever'. for you to say 'no there's more going on here but I don't know what it is' should be the impetus for him to fall out with you and leave the group. maybe do part of the next dungeon without him until he realises you were right. But they don't act on it and he just sort of trudges along behind you
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I don't think Yosuke was that keen on becoming a murderer, even to avenge the death of Saki and Nanako. If you convince him that there's something else going on he's all too happy to investigate that avenue. Even though he doesn't leave the group, that scene does have a failure state that leads to a bad end if you can't convince him, so I think it works out.
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I think Yosuke and Mona are sort of prime examples where the tone of the characters got sort of twisted in translation. Yosuke especially, the localization and voice work completely misses his character and he comes off sounding mean spirited and spiteful, whereas in the Japanese he's constantly self deprecating, and his jabs at other people are very obviously meant as comedy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzai). And I think without that comedy element he also loses a lot of his connection to the MC, because you build a manzai type relationship with Yosuke being the tsukkomi to MC's boke and it's in the rare emotional moments on his s-links where he lets down his guard and starts talking like a regular person. In Mona's case, I think it's more a bad choice of voice actor than anything. Japanese Mona is the the literal voice of Pikachu absolutely hamming it up as a living cartoon character in a human world, and I didn't get any of that feeling for the English performance, which if anything is far too sincere. RillAkBea fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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Yosuke is not the only person who wants to kill Namatame. People seem to like to forget it was Naoto who suggested the TV was the perfect murder weapon.[/u] And I guess this is just a subjective thing because I (and quite a lot of other people) definitely got the BFF vibe from Yosuke very fast. Coming from P3, he's so different from either Junpei or Yukari. They were both aggressive and petty but Yusuke, while not as fawning as Teddie,, respects you a lot. You really do bond just being two guys hanging out and that's all you need sometimes. Meanwhile I had zero feeling for any Phantom Thief besides Haru.
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NikkolasKing posted:And I guess this is just a subjective thing because I (and quite a lot of other people) definitely got the BFF vibe from Yosuke very fast. Coming from P3, he's so different from either Junpei or Yukari. They were both aggressive and petty but Yusuke, while not as fawning as Teddie,, respects you a lot. You really do bond just being two guys hanging out and that's all you need sometimes. Same here on the Yosuke front, I found Yosuke to be more of a friend to the MC than Junpei or Ryuji. Granted, Yosuke had his share of faults, but some of those faults are probably better laid at the feet of the devs than directed at Yosuke himself (all those jokes at Kenji's expense, the typical Persona series horndoggery).
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Yosuke is a great friend to the MC and a good older brother figure to Teddie he's just kind of lovely to everyone else.
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Yosuke also shows a lot of initiative in shaping up the Investigation Team, acting as a soundboard for various theories, etc. He's got a pretty essential role. Though I don't really understand the complaints about the Phantom Thieves not feeling like a group of friends, that wasn't my impression outside of a higher proportions of their conversations being directly about the plot. S.E.E.S, on the other hand, do feel more like roommates who don't have much in common outside of the mission.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Same here on the Yosuke front, I found Yosuke to be more of a friend to the MC than Junpei or Ryuji. Granted, Yosuke had his share of faults, but some of those faults are probably better laid at the feet of the devs than directed at Yosuke himself (all those jokes at Kenji's expense, the typical Persona series horndoggery). YaketySass posted:Yosuke also shows a lot of initiative in shaping up the Investigation Team, acting as a soundboard for various theories, etc. He's got a pretty essential role.
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Ryuji was always like. weirdly relatable to me because I was also a high school track guy who had a lot of my sports stuff yanked out from under me when I hurt my leg severely and also had to deal w/ everyone I was once cool with treating me like a traitor afterwards. His personal social link is legitimately one of my favorites in P5 just because it involved him learning to process his feelings and realize that the guilt and self-loathing he feels isn't healthy for him. It also somewhat connects to the infamous September scenes where he and Morgana are at each others' throats and he ends up crossing a few lines, because some of the stuff he's saying ("we never needed X, X is so useless, X doesn't really contribute") echoes the way his ex-track mates talked about him, and since Ryuji's very obviously been using the self-loathing/self-depreciating stuff as a way to "make peace" with it it's really plausible he'd slip into joking around like that about another person not realizing that that's not the type of friendship they actually have.
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YaketySass posted:
That criticism was more about P5 (not Royal) in comparison to P4, and is based more on the comparative lack of slice of life scenes in the later game. The PTs (aside from Ryuji/Ann which have some backstory already) have lots of bonding scenes with Joker but not so much with each other, so it came across to come people as the PTs being friends with Joker and more of colleagues with each other. Adding the Showtimes and more slice of life scenes in Royal helped a bit, but it's Strikers that finally got the 'big group of close friends' vibe right.
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anakha posted:That criticism was more about P5 (not Royal) in comparison to P4, and is based more on the comparative lack of slice of life scenes in the later game. The PTs (aside from Ryuji/Ann which have some backstory already) have lots of bonding scenes with Joker but not so much with each other, so it came across to come people as the PTs being friends with Joker and more of colleagues with each other. I just wish Makoto was having fun in her Showtime with Ryuji. Cut the dude the tiniest slice of a break.
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YaketySass posted:Yosuke also shows a lot of initiative in shaping up the Investigation Team, acting as a soundboard for various theories, etc. He's got a pretty essential role. I understand the power of first impressions, and first impressions of Yosuke are that he's a total idiot goofball, but he is clearly the smartest member of the group after Naoto and the MC if we even count him. He's the one who always leads the meetings and talks things out about the investigation, to say nothing of his crazy work ethic at his job. I think it sets him apart from both the Ace Defective and Ryuji.
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Yosuke goes to poo poo after Ryuji's recruitment but it's okay, Teddie's there to make his life an unending hell.
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I assume you're talking about Kanji, not referring to Persona Q2, the only game where Yosuke and Ryuji coexist.
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Mix. posted:give us the scrapped yosuke romance where we can fix him I actually did play a fangame VN based on this romance Yosuke and it's still pretty much a mess. I haven't played the PC mod for it yet but the more I reflect on P4:G canon story...I'm like it is what is.
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