[Biosphere Collapse] 420 days of blazin' it

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mahershalalhashbaz: Jul 22, 2021; by Pragmatica
(and can't post for 11 days!)

every now and then i remember nobody's actually going to do anything

# ? Jul 6, 2022 01:59

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# ? May 24, 2024 14:41

atelier morgan: Mar 11, 2003; super-scientific, ultra-gay; Lipstick Apathy

70% of the responses just divided into a bunch of different ways of saying 'we're all loving broke'

# ? Jul 6, 2022 02:00

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

Oglethorpe posted:

there are rotating platforms for that

the gently caress standing on a rotating platform going to do to help me wrap a palette?

# ? Jul 6, 2022 02:02

Rectal Death Adept: Jun 20, 2018; by Fluffdaddy

i'm screaming

I'm vomiting

I'm combination screaming/vomiting

I'm thinkin' Arby's

# ? Jul 6, 2022 02:10

Delta-Wye: Sep 29, 2005

Rectal Death Adept posted:

i'm screaming

I'm vomiting

I'm combination screaming/vomiting

I'm thinkin' Arby's

hum, sounds like too much cannabis - a serious journalist, probably

# ? Jul 6, 2022 02:11

T-Paine: Dec 12, 2007; Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.

mahershalalhashbaz posted:

every now and then i remember nobody's actually going to do anything

Even if we did do something enough warming is already baked in that poo poo is hosed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04xl7iBRrkk

# ? Jul 6, 2022 02:17

Fozzy The Bear: Dec 11, 1999; Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Cool post bro glad your dick likes her my guy thanks for the report

eeewww he likes a girl! COOTIES!!!

# ? Jul 6, 2022 02:39

CODChimera: Jan 29, 2009

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

There it is again

THAN PREVIOUSLY ESTIMATED

thats literally just the default now

# ? Jul 6, 2022 03:45

Raine: Apr 30, 2013; ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER

they keep changing the wording a little bit with each new article

# ? Jul 6, 2022 03:55

Rauros: Aug 25, 2004; wanna go grub thumping?

get this man an account

https://twitter.com/MrMatthewTodd/status/1544280835888660480?s=20&t=UruPpKyz6Vbochy8ua5zKg

# ? Jul 6, 2022 05:37

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Ah ! It'll be fine, It'll be fine, It'll be fine
The people on this day repeat over and over,
Ah ! It'll be fine, It'll be fine, It'll be fine
In spite of the mutineers everything shall succeed.

# ? Jul 6, 2022 05:38

A Bakers Cousin: Dec 18, 2003; by vyelkin

seems fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQhXjP6s5E

# ? Jul 6, 2022 05:43

Reverend Zero: Mar 8, 2006

the easiest way to wrap a pallet is make the new guy do it

# ? Jul 6, 2022 05:45

Wakko: Jun 9, 2002; Faboo!

mahershalalhashbaz posted:

every now and then i remember nobody's actually going to do anything

that couldn't be further from the truth. everybody is going to do everything they can to make sure we make the Great Dying look like a tea party

# ? Jul 6, 2022 06:15

Ferdinand Bardamu: Apr 30, 2013

A Bakers Cousin posted:

seems fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQhXjP6s5E

CANNONBALL!

# ? Jul 6, 2022 06:20

MLSM: Apr 3, 2021; by Azathoth

Chris James 2 posted:

https://www.livescience.com/hundreds-of-new-microbes-found-in-melting-glaciers

# ? Jul 6, 2022 06:41

kater: Nov 16, 2010

the earth is a closed system aliens aren�t vacuuming up the water, just go get it back from wherever it went

# ? Jul 6, 2022 07:06

err: Apr 11, 2005; I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

A Bakers Cousin posted:

seems fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQhXjP6s5E

How many Lake Mead YouTubers are being funded by climate change rn.

# ? Jul 6, 2022 07:23

jetz0r: May 10, 2003; Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.

err posted:

How many Lake Mead YouTubers are being funded by climate change rn.

the algorithm is pushing more people to create for climate disaster videos

hey all, halolord88 here to give you a tour of my home town, donkey fork california that burned to the ground last week! if you like my content, don't forget to like, subscribe and comment! we'll start with this pile of ash that used to be my home.

# ? Jul 6, 2022 07:32

Tzen: Sep 11, 2001

A Bakers Cousin posted:

seems fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQhXjP6s5E

i have such a vivid memory of visiting hoover dam 20+ years ago, and holy gently caress did it not look like that at all
this report is amazing and horrifying lmao

# ? Jul 6, 2022 07:42

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1544629721912299520?s=20&t=0NH45ldPGbrtzEs7C4TePw

# ? Jul 6, 2022 11:59

Egg Moron: Jul 21, 2003; the dreams of the delighting void

kater posted:

the earth is a closed system aliens aren�t vacuuming up the water, just go get it back from wherever it went

i pledge to spend the remainder of my life tirelessly searching for this lost water

# ? Jul 6, 2022 12:17

Egg Moron: Jul 21, 2003; the dreams of the delighting void

why cant we just put a bunch of hydrogen and oxygen in a room and make water?

put that room in everyones house

# ? Jul 6, 2022 12:18

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Perry Mason Jar posted:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1544629721912299520?s=20&t=0NH45ldPGbrtzEs7C4TePw

almost there...

# ? Jul 6, 2022 12:32

Cabbages and VHS: Aug 25, 2004; Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

It has to be rage bait. That poo poo took forever and those plastic rolls are not fun to use. loving hated wrapping pallets lmao

thrice I have used rolls of that poo poo to wrap our Ikea Billy Bookcases to be structural enough to move. They made it from VA -> VT and then to a house we bought which I hope to die in (soon? Some people think so!) so now I expect to look at these god damned cheap bookcases until the end of my days. (They are the kelley green ones and actually look pretty sharp in our library, imo, but I lack class I believe).

Anyway now I am thinking about all that plastic and the net impact of that vs just having sold the bookcases in VA and bought some perfectly nice used hardwood bookcases once we were here. Ah well. Put it in the pile of plastic I burned on the way to the end.

mahershalalhashbaz posted:

every now and then i remember nobody's actually going to do anything

Pessimistic doomer nonsense.

"screaming", "suffering", and "raiding your neighbors food supplies with black rifles" are all "things" that "people will do".

# ? Jul 6, 2022 12:40

biceps crimes: Apr 12, 2008

Cabbages and Kings posted:

thrice I have used rolls of that poo poo to wrap our Ikea Billy Bookcases to be structural enough to move. They made it from VA -> VT and then to a house we bought which I hope to die in (soon? Some people think so!) so now I expect to look at these god damned cheap bookcases until the end of my days. (They are the kelley green ones and actually look pretty sharp in our library, imo, but I lack class I believe).

Anyway now I am thinking about all that plastic and the net impact of that vs just having sold the bookcases in VA and bought some perfectly nice used hardwood bookcases once we were here. Ah well. Put it in the pile of plastic I burned on the way to the end.

i worked at a bookstore for five years and every single pallet of books we received was wrapped in the poo poo. i also loaded pallets of books to return back to the distribution warehouses, and we would wrap those pallets tight with the wrap. your billy bookcases pale in comparison to my crimes. we live in a society

# ? Jul 6, 2022 13:37

Pepe Silvia Browne: Jan 1, 2007

Perry Mason Jar posted:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1544629721912299520?s=20&t=0NH45ldPGbrtzEs7C4TePw

On Oil, Gas, and Coal: It's from de Earth!

# ? Jul 6, 2022 13:49

Pepe Silvia Browne: Jan 1, 2007

How can you criminalize a hyperconcentrated plant?

# ? Jul 6, 2022 13:50

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

Cabbages and Kings posted:

thrice I have used rolls of that poo poo to wrap our Ikea Billy Bookcases to be structural enough to move. They made it from VA -> VT and then to a house we bought which I hope to die in (soon? Some people think so!) so now I expect to look at these god damned cheap bookcases until the end of my days. (They are the kelley green ones and actually look pretty sharp in our library, imo, but I lack class I believe).

Anyway now I am thinking about all that plastic and the net impact of that vs just having sold the bookcases in VA and bought some perfectly nice used hardwood bookcases once we were here. Ah well. Put it in the pile of plastic I burned on the way to the end.

Pessimistic doomer nonsense.

"screaming", "suffering", and "raiding your neighbors food supplies with black rifles" are all "things" that "people will do".

Perry Mason Jar posted:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1544629721912299520?s=20&t=0NH45ldPGbrtzEs7C4TePw

we live in a society

# ? Jul 6, 2022 13:50

Unless: Jul 24, 2005; I art

Nuclear Power Gets New Push in U.S., Winning Converts

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Driven by the difficulty of meeting clean energy goals and by surging electricity demands, a growing number of political leaders are taking a fresh look at nuclear power � both extending the life of existing reactors and building new ones.

Even past skeptics, largely Democrats, have come around to the idea � notably in California, where the state�s sole remaining nuclear plant, Diablo Canyon, is scheduled to close in 2025. The search for clean energy has given nuclear power a spark that has drawn bipartisan support that added billions in funding for existing and new projects.

But critics of the nuclear industry argue that a veneer of clean energy has not changed the concerns about the technology, including aging facilities in need of potentially costly improvements, the challenge of nuclear waste disposal and steep cost overruns for new projects that are years late � if they reach completion.

�The industry knows it does not have a good story to tell,� said Edwin Lyman, a physicist and the director of nuclear power safety with the Union of Concerned Scientists. �It�s still plagued by the same issues.�

President Biden wants to eliminate greenhouse gas emissions from the power industry by 2035, and he said a Supreme Court ruling last week limiting federal regulatory authority would not halt such efforts. But the supply chain issues that have hurt wind and solar power development have presented the latest hurdle to reaching that goal.

As a stopgap, the Biden administration has established a $6 billion fund to help troubled nuclear plant operators keep their reactors running and make them more economically competitive against cheaper resources like solar and wind power. The application deadline is Tuesday, though it might be extended and the requirements amended to broaden eligibility.

�The Biden administration has been very clear that we will get to the net zero goals,� Kathryn Huff, assistant secretary for nuclear energy at the Department of Energy, said at a recent conference of the American Nuclear Society. �They�re incredibly aggressive goals, and nuclear is a part of that solution, a very big part potentially.�

In addition to the $6 billion fund, the administration is providing $2.5 billion for two projects meant to demonstrate new nuclear technology, in Washington State and Wyoming.

A separate bipartisan measure introduced last year is aimed at preserving and expanding nuclear energy in the United States. The bill, whose backers include Senators Shelley Moore Capito, Republican of West Virginia, and Cory Booker, Democrat of New Jersey, would provide financial assistance like tax credits, according to the Tax Foundation, a nonprofit tax policy organization.

Ms. Capito has argued that coal-fired power plants, which have been closing as the nation moves away from fossil fuel sources, could become sites for nuclear reactors. That would provide benefits for places like her home state, which has produced coal and relied on it as fuel for power generators.

�Ultimately, you get to a point where you need something that�s not weather dependent, something like nuclear to make the grid reliable,� said John Kotek, who ran the Office of Nuclear Energy during the Obama administration and is now vice president for policy at the Nuclear Energy Institute, a trade association. �There are other technologies that are candidates to play that role, but if you look at what is available today across the widest scale, that�s nuclear energy.�

The rising costs of other sources of power have made nuclear energy more competitive around the world, including in the United States, which has the largest fleet of nuclear plants of any country. They produce about 20 percent of the nation�s electricity and 50 percent of the clean energy.

The United States maintains 92 reactors, though a dozen have closed over the last decade � including, a month ago, the Palisades Nuclear Generating Station in Michigan, about 55 miles southwest of Grand Rapids.

The owner, Entergy, decided to shut the plant after a power-purchase agreement with a utility expired. Entergy said it could not find buyers for the plant, and decommissioning has gone too far to bring it back online, even with the money from the federal government.

Diablo Canyon is next on the decommissioning list, but Gov. Gavin Newsom has proposed extending its life. The plant, on California�s central coast, supplies almost 10 percent of the state�s electricity. Pacific Gas & Electric, which owns the plant, announced in 2016 that it planned to close it when its licenses expired, saying it would focus more on solar and wind power as renewable energy sources.

Among those backing an extension is Senator Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, who had supported closing the plant. To meet clean energy goals while addressing power demands arising from climate change, �Diablo must keep operating, at least for the time being,� she declared in an essay in The Sacramento Bee under a headline that said, �Why I changed my mind.�

A study last year by Stanford University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found that keeping Diablo Canyon open for 10 years could reduce the California power industry�s carbon emissions by more than 10 percent from 2017 levels and reduce reliance on natural gas. It also could save $2.6 billion in electricity costs and help prevent brownouts.

Brownouts and blackouts are an increasing concern, especially with more extreme weather events. The California Independent System Operator, which operates the electric grid that supplies power to about 80 percent of the state, says this summer could bring the highest load in the system operator�s 24-year history.

PG&E won�t say whether it supports extending the life of the plant, only that it will follow any decision and guidance from the state.

A leading critic of keeping Diablo Canyon open is Arnie Gundersen, the chief engineer at Fairewinds Energy Education, a nonprofit organization focused on the perils of nuclear power. The organization often points to the radioactive leak from the Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan after an earthquake and tsunami in 2011, a disaster that cost public support for reactors.

Mr. Gundersen, a nuclear engineer who once worked in the industry and is a frequent expert witness on utility matters across the country, said he thought Diablo Canyon would need significant improvements to operate beyond 2025.

�To keep uneconomical nukes running will use much more than the $6 billion that Biden has proposed,� Mr. Gundersen said. �That�s chump change for nuclear to remain competitive. I think he�s got some really smart people in his brain trust, yet he�s reaching out for political fig leaves to get the nuclear industry off his back.�

To proponents of nuclear energy, Diablo Canyon represents a pivotal moment. Coupled with solar, wind and hydroelectric power, they say, nuclear power would make 100 percent clean energy possible.

�I can easily see a doubling of nuclear generation in this country,� said Steven Nesbit, a nuclear engineer who spent decades at Duke Energy and is the immediate past president of the American Nuclear Society, an organization of scientists, engineers and industry professionals. �We are solar and wind�s best friend. They just can�t do the job themselves.�

Industry leaders recognize that the age of new large-scale nuclear plants in the United States has passed, chiefly because of runaway costs. Two new units at the Vogtle Electric Generating Plant in Waynesboro, Ga., expected to come online in 2023, are costing about twice the original estimate of $14 billion. A nuclear project in South Carolina drove the utility developing it into bankruptcy.

But many in the industry say smaller reactors that can be expanded over time offer promise of avoiding long delays and high cost. These reactors, they say, can be built in factories and delivered to approved sites. And the reactors� high-temperature steam could also yield significant amounts of hydrogen, a carbon-free alternative fuel to natural gas.

The project locations can plan for as many as a dozen units but start with just one. But a plant with 12 units would produce half the electricity or even a little less than many other large nuclear facilities.

None of the smaller reactors have been certified by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, which approves licenses and operations of the nation�s nuclear power plants. But NuScale Power, a company that designs and markets small reactors in Oregon, expects to receive certification of its design by the end of the summer. A developer then would need approval for a license to build and operate the unit.

Thomas Mundy, chief commercial officer for NuScale Power, said his company�s product could be built and put into use in about three years, a fraction of the time it takes to build larger reactor units. And the cost, Mr. Mundy said, is competitive with new natural gas facilities at a levelized cost � the electricity price needed to break even at the end of the plant�s life � of $45 to $65 a megawatt-hour.

By comparison, a utility-scale solar farm costs $28 to $41 a megawatt-hour and a wind farm $26 to $50, according to the latest analysis by Lazard, the investment firm.

Mr. Mundy said his company�s product would be built by BWX Technologies, a manufacturer of naval nuclear reactor cores based in Lynchburg, Va., as well as by companies in South Korea and Japan.

Concerns about safety, cost and construction delays are not going to be the same as with earlier reactors, he said, because the new ones will have fewer components and will have uniform manufacturing processes, reducing the likelihood of the kinds of failures that come with making each plant unique.

�I think those people are not studying the realities,� Mr. Mundy said of the critics of the new reactors. �We need to continue to educate.�

But at least one of those critics, Mr. Gunderson, is unconvinced. �We�re falling for the same mistakes that we�ve fallen for over the last 50 years,� he said. �I will shut up and retire if you can show a nuclear plant that was built at cost and on schedule.�

# ? Jul 6, 2022 14:25

MLSM: Apr 3, 2021; by Azathoth

A Bakers Cousin posted:

seems fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQhXjP6s5E

This owns

# ? Jul 6, 2022 14:38

FUCK COREY PERRY: Apr 19, 2008

there is going to be a late-game push to make up for lost time and finally invest in nuclear. The almighty atom will power us into the green future! All we need to do is simply enable the wise & loving hand of the market to do what it has been forbidden for so long: own and operate and proliferate nuclear power without wasteful government red tape or oversight (but of course with a prudent initial investment of public funds to help get things started)

# ? Jul 6, 2022 15:19

Pepe Silvia Browne: Jan 1, 2007

We're gonna cut corners to avoid production delays and increased costs, and then have all our new reactors meltdown after a day and a half

# ? Jul 6, 2022 15:41

T-Paine: Dec 12, 2007; Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

We're gonna cut corners to avoid production delays and increased costs, and then have all our new reactors meltdown after a day and a half

Imminent social breakdown is a great time to proliferate radioactive material

# ? Jul 6, 2022 15:43

A Bakers Cousin: Dec 18, 2003; by vyelkin

if thats so ill finally get to touch the forbidden blue

# ? Jul 6, 2022 15:46

Cabbages and VHS: Aug 25, 2004; Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

Unless posted:

Nuclear Power Gets New Push in U.S., Winning Converts

I like the idea of "nuclear converts", it sounds like a religious change

edit: imagine this is some CHUD pastor and a bunch of pasty white americans, this was the first well-posed shot I found for "christian converts"

# ? Jul 6, 2022 15:52

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

kater posted:

https://twitter.com/jtrebach/status/1544410778136190981 made me think of yall.

i love that the solution outrage is to go buy other plastic bullshit instead of this valuable scavenging skill.

bear bento

# ? Jul 6, 2022 15:54

bedpan: Apr 23, 2008

Unless posted:

Nuclear Power Gets New Push in U.S., Winning Converts

Lmao they quote someone from the Union of Concerned Scientists.

These were the same people who thought donald trump getting elected was literally the prelude to nuclear war.

# ? Jul 6, 2022 15:54

Cabbages and VHS: Aug 25, 2004; Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

bedpan posted:

These were the same people who thought donald trump getting elected was literally the prelude to nuclear war.

I don't think there's an expiration date to prelude and I don't think projections of nuclear war are totally unhinged

laying all the blame on trump is some lib brain poo poo, but also trump dumped gasoline on a lot of fires and will continue to do so if (when) re-elected

# ? Jul 6, 2022 15:58

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# ? May 24, 2024 14:41

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Extending the licenses for these privately operated for-profit nuclear plants in America is going to seem real smart until one of them epically fucks poo poo up.

But hey, making a private corporation operate a complex and expensive system when they expressly would prefer it to shut down will result in the best maintenance and risk choices because it�s in the public interest you see.

When has PG&E ever done something to hurt the public interest?

# ? Jul 6, 2022 16:26

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