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I feel like Takamura was right about Ippo needing some sort of personal drive to win. It's always felt like Ippo boxes out of a sort of obligation - he doesn't want to disappoint people (mainly his coach). But he's never really shown a personal drive to become the best.
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Ytlaya posted:I feel like Takamura was right about Ippo needing some sort of personal drive to win. It's always felt like Ippo boxes out of a sort of obligation - he doesn't want to disappoint people (mainly his coach). But he's never really shown a personal drive to become the best. Yup, very much true. Right now, Ippo is boxing far better than he ever did, because of that drive to "Pay back Volg." Ippo's motivation wasn't to win it was to "Know what strength is." if Ippo WANTS to win, he needs to want to win.
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tbp posted:the monster thing from takamura is more mental than anything. he's absolutely not saying to ippo "you need to get good enough to avoid taking damage", he's explicilty going "you need to get to a point where you don't loving care if you break or die for the fight". takamura is at that point, he's been building up life altering injuries for a while (his leg, the eye) but that is fundamentally meaningless to him when compared to the severity of his desire for his goal. he thinks of ippo as treating boxing as a "hobby", and nowhere near that same level of dedication. Actually takamura is just referring to the thread title
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Onmi posted:Yup, very much true. Right now, Ippo is boxing far better than he ever did, because of that drive to "Pay back Volg." Ippo's motivation wasn't to win it was to "Know what strength is." if Ippo WANTS to win, he needs to want to win. He was also doing good when he had a goal in Miyata. He very noticeably starts boxing worse after the match with Miyata is called off.
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Ytlaya posted:I feel like Takamura was right about Ippo needing some sort of personal drive to win. It's always felt like Ippo boxes out of a sort of obligation - he doesn't want to disappoint people (mainly his coach). But he's never really shown a personal drive to become the best. One time that he went really 'it's personal' and was determined to not let the opponent have the belt, not just 'fight as the challenger', we got the Sawamura fight
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As terrible as a storyline as it was: Kojima and the OHKO.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:As terrible as a storyline as it was: Kojima and the OHKO. Once again proving the coach is the problem. Get pissed about a psycho who also hurt kinda sort future girlfriend? Face yoru worst match-up and beat counters to dempsey. Get angry about coach? Run headfirst into the most obvious punch a jober threw out.
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 Where's the new chapter internet??? I need my hog fix. NEW CHAP Jiro fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jun 28, 2022 |
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Jun 28, 2022 16:30
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Best fight in the series? Perhaps.
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Jun 28, 2022 19:34
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Sendo and Vorg doing their best as reader stand-ins for what just happened
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Jun 28, 2022 20:41
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only 9 pages and that chapter still owned literally "sendo sets up a comedy bit" the chapter
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Jun 28, 2022 20:44
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I can't believe that Sendo is somehow the most responsible person in that entire building.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:14
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lol right? Sendo is the best
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Jun 28, 2022 23:46
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remember that he's basically an entire city block's big brother i've known people exactly like sendo. one of my cousins is a sendo
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MonsterEnvy posted:He was also doing good when he had a goal in Miyata. He very noticeably starts boxing worse after the match with Miyata is called off. Yeah very much so, his desire to fight turned into "Well I guess I'm just... champ" because the Miyata fight kept getting pushed further and further off. He had no real desire to fight Ricardo, so with his goal essentially pushed so far out of reach with no real way to like... hasten it. It just became about fighting for the sake of fighting. Or as he said 'I want to know what 'strength' is."
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Jun 29, 2022 13:53
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He got really pissed off and legit wanted to avenge Date for about five minutes
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Patware posted:remember that he's basically an entire city block's big brother I think if Ippo explained to him that he retired because he promised Kumi and also doesn't want his mother to worry anymore he'd understand completely. He'd be annoyed inside but would 100% accept the reason.
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Wonder if maybe Wali will be sacrificed to get Ippo back into boxing.
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Why the hell can't any of these characters just say Ippo took too many shots to the head???
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Ytlaya posted:Wonder if maybe Wali will be sacrificed to get Ippo back into boxing. I've been suspecting this for a while. Wali pushes Martinez enough for him to show his "true face," and then things get brutal.
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Jiro posted:Why the hell can't any of these characters just say Ippo took too many shots to the head??? It is difficult to cavalierly admit to something that hangs like a specter over all of them, day in, day out.
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tbp posted:It is difficult to cavalierly admit to something that hangs like a specter over all of them, day in, day out. Yeah "Oh he had to retire because he got hit in the head so much he has brain damage." "You mean doing that thing we're doing now?" "Yup." That and, again, Ippo was NEVER forward about his retirement, there was plenty of speculation but as we've said in the past, he was medically cleared, he chose to retire, he didn't go "The doctors have warned me against stepping in the ring" or any kind of public explanation, as far as the world is concerned all they have is speculation. Besides, it's Woli. The dude's basically "Innocence incarnate" you going to explain to him someone has brain damage?
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So Woli is a good boy who doesn't understand the risks of boxing and is being exploited by his trainer.
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Woli knows that getting hit is bad and plans appropriately, unlike some other boxers in the manga
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Rubellavator posted:So Woli is a good boy who doesn't understand the risks of boxing and is being exploited by his trainer. He gets paid in Mangoes and Crypto (which in Ippo's world was developed in the 80s)
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trucutru posted:He gets paid in Mangoes and Crypto (which in Ippo's world was developed in the 80s) He gets paid in actual floppy disks.
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have we made it it out of the second millenium yet in-universe?
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Has anyone told Morikawa that there are cities in Indonesia and the people living there aren't mentally ten years old
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I’m worried that the “talking about what I want to do in the future” is a death flag for Woli
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Flesnolk posted:Has anyone told Morikawa that there are cities in Indonesia and the people living there aren't mentally ten years old Yes but Wally did not live in those cities, he's also 18 and people at that age can be immature.
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Mr Gorgon Holmes posted:I’m worried that the “talking about what I want to do in the future” is a death flag for Woli Well, Ippo's gotta get back into the ring somehow...
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Ricardo is gonna kill Woli and Ippo is gonna remember "oh right I was suppose to avenge Date too, guess I got double revenge to do now"
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Centzon Totochtin posted:Ricardo is gonna kill Woli and Ippo is gonna remember "oh right I was suppose to avenge Date too, guess I got double revenge to do now" Or injure Woli enough that he can no longer box, which could arguably be even more tragic because of his earnest love for the sport
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Centzon Totochtin posted:Ricardo is gonna kill Woli and Ippo is gonna remember "oh right I was suppose to avenge Date too, guess I got double revenge to do now" Lol, I forgot about that. And I think Morikawa forgot as well.
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pnumoman posted:Lol, I forgot about that. And I think Morikawa forgot as well. It was acknowledged within the retirement arc, so I don't think so. Date's son takes an attitude with Ippo
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tbp posted:It was acknowledged within the retirement arc, so I don't think so. Date's son takes an attitude with Ippo I'll take your word for it, I've been reading this manga for most of my life at this point so I can't remember anything that doesn't involve people punching or getting punched. Or Ippo's massive hog.
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Stairmaster posted:have we made it it out of the second millenium yet in-universe? Believe it's early 2000s there now. Mr Gorgon Holmes posted:I’m worried that the “talking about what I want to do in the future” is a death flag for Woli Worried, hopeful, tomato, tomAto...
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pnumoman posted:I'll take your word for it, I've been reading this manga for most of my life at this point so I can't remember anything that doesn't involve people punching or getting punched. Or Ippo's massive hog. it's almost loving bizarre how well i remember this series despite its absurd length. i wish i could shake out some of that information my the recesses of my brain to replace with more useful stuff lol
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runwiled posted:Or injure Woli enough that he can no longer box, which could arguably be even more tragic because of his earnest love for the sport Miguel is a competent enough second to throw the towel in before he would let Woli get broken by Martinez.
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