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dhamster posted:Gearing up to implement some story dialogue that I wrote into my game. In Arcade mode I'm going to be using the Pixel Crashers dialogue system to put some brief story vignettes between fights (just a couple lines of dialogue each). I figure I can put in some kind of toggle to turn it off if a player doesn't like the story or already saw it once. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-NfNog7MR4 Here's how it looks right now. You can hit any confirm button to instantly show the appearing text, the cancel button to skip a line, or the start button to make the cutscene go away and get into the game.
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I added some "talking" sounds. https://twitter.com/MegaKnockdown/status/1544392218873585670 I've plugged in the first of six story campaigns so far. Pixel Crushers makes the process pretty easy. https://twitter.com/MegaKnockdown/status/1544485946439221248
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dhamster posted:I added some "talking" sounds. After seeing those portraits my brain is adding in a Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff unlockable meme character.
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I went through a brief phase of experimenting with dialog sounds. I did the Animal Crossing thing (surprisingly straightforward, just make clips from various musical instruments), but it wasn't a good match for my game. Something I eventually realized is that the sound doesn't need to reflect anything in specific about the game or who's talking; there just needs to be a sound to go with the dialog. Ideally it's also not too intrusive. What I went with was a muted "tick" sound. Play it periodically when letters are drawn on the screen -- not once per letter, but maybe 5-10 times per second. Feel free to use that specific sound file if you like. The Yakuza games do something similar. The same sound effect gets used for every speaker, and it's fine.
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Jul 6, 2022 03:59
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dhamster posted:I added some "talking" sounds. i like the Star Fox-esque talking sounds. character portraits are looking good, too.
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Jul 6, 2022 04:08
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I put in a script to give each character a different "voice" (just a single, very short syllable like the one in the clip). Framework-wise things are pretty much where I want them, now I just have to keep plugging away at putting in all the dialogue I wrote..
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Jul 6, 2022 06:24
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Digging it - I want to do something similar for the dialogue setup in my game, though it makes me wonder how well that'd mesh with Zelda style action barks during play. Only one way to find out I guess! So: a while back I started trying to upgrade to UE5 and ran into a brick wall with switching from PhysX to Chaos. I still think PhysX is better if only by virtue of being a more refined product, but after figuring out what Chaos expects (which is largely the opposite of what PhysX expects), I'm satisfied with the result and I've fully migrated from UE4. I had some reservations about raising the requirements, but when I thought about it by the time I release this project anything mid-range today will be years out of date, lol. https://twitter.com/irqfive/status/1544666713735794688?s=20&t=LRKSZppq9Paq88l0hHj_sA
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Jul 6, 2022 14:05
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The Pixar team wants to have a word with you about character design.
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Jul 6, 2022 15:20
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unless it's to hire me, i must remind their legal team that powerful butts are not subject to copyright
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Jul 6, 2022 15:28
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I guarantee they are interested in your butt technology.
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Jul 6, 2022 15:30
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good because i put a lot of work into it now i just need to wait for yoko taro to notice
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Jul 6, 2022 15:56
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Are you the same goon that made a Flash platformer with a super-sexualized woman on the title page art, and then completely tame pixel art for the actual gameplay? I remember they did it completely cynically, like, "doing this gets me an order of magnitude more engagement, so I'm doing it".
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Jul 6, 2022 16:07
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No shame in paying the bills.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Are you the same goon that made a Flash platformer with a super-sexualized woman on the title page art, and then completely tame pixel art for the actual gameplay? I remember they did it completely cynically, like, "doing this gets me an order of magnitude more engagement, so I'm doing it". Nope, but that definitely sounds familiar if not just fully on brand for parts of the industry. This is an earnest effort, but I also know I haven't shown off anything beyond character movement and modeling so far, soooo M_Gargantua posted:No shame in paying the bills. also unironically yes, tbh
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drawbot posted:I had some reservations about raising the requirements, but when I thought about it by the time I release this project anything mid-range today will be years out of date, lol. Unless you are moving from Unity or Godot to Unreal requirements aren't really going to be an issue, because just being on UE cuts off the people running on old low spec computers. Not to say they aren't significant, but it's a very different slice of the market
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drawbot posted:Nope, but that definitely sounds familiar if not just fully on brand for parts of the industry. This is an earnest effort, but I also know I haven't shown off anything beyond character movement and modeling so far, soooo Yeah, to be clear, I'm not trying to shame you. I was just curious. In Waves of Steel news: https://twitter.com/byobattleship/status/1544705480081252353 This is pretty much everything I've done from March through May or so, dressed up with a nice trailer and announcement post. I'm hoping it'll attract some press attention -- my PR team is sending a press release out to go with the announcement. Word of mouth is always welcome as well, of course!
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Jul 6, 2022 16:48
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drawbot posted:Nope, but that definitely sounds familiar if not just fully on brand for parts of the industry. This is an earnest effort, but I also know I haven't shown off anything beyond character movement and modeling so far, soooo It does look like some fun movement tech
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Hel posted:Unless you are moving from Unity or Godot to Unreal requirements aren't really going to be an issue, because just being on UE cuts off the people running on old low spec computers. Not to say they aren't significant, but it's a very different slice of the market Yeah, I started the project in UE4 without a real conscious idea of my target hardware, but over time it became "as long as my four year old rig can run it," and that naturally became "mid-range computer in 2022." What I really wanted to be able to do was target the Switch but I need to have a publishing deal and/or a few games already out there before they even let me sniff at a dev kit, so that was off the table completely. The real comedy will be when I try to get it to run on my wife's Inspiron. TooMuchAbstraction posted:Yeah, to be clear, I'm not trying to shame you. I was just curious. All good! It's an adjustment for me - this is my first major public project and I'm still figuring out how to discuss it when the most complete part of it is literally all that most people notice in the empty test environment. I ultimately consider it a sign of success but it does give me pause lol M_Gargantua posted:It does look like some fun movement tech thank you  I've been wanting to put together a game that emphasizes the freedom of movement and speed without turning into Sonic or a rails runner, and for me the answer became "what if bunnyhopping?" - which largely came out of the character design, hence the project name.
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When you first posted a video I thought, "That's quite a lot of butt." Then I saw the kinds of movements involved and thought, "That's the appropriate amount of butt."
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Jul 6, 2022 18:21
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Hideo Kojima's Phantom Hourglass
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exactly, it is the exact amount of butt required for that kind of speed and power. not sure about making people feel ashamed for their words and deeds but that probably happens later
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drawbot posted:exactly, it is the exact amount of butt required for that kind of speed and power. not sure about making people feel ashamed for their words and deeds but that probably happens later Man, waifu/husbando culture of character driven games is going to lead me to eventually having to say "okay, but this character needs more butt" to a modeler and I'm not looking forward to it.
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SweetBro posted:Man, waifu/husbando culture of character driven games is going to lead me to eventually having to say "okay, but this character needs more butt" to a modeler and I'm not looking forward to it. Pretty sure that exchange has happened since at least the 90s
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Jul 7, 2022 03:30
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leper khan posted:Pretty sure that exchange has happened since at least the 90s Yeah, but like. Part of me naively wishes that our industry would have grown past that, but after talking with enough people in the marketing space it's very clear that it hasn't. Not that I'm against sexy stuff in games, but to some degree I'm just disappointed how much of a decisive factor the boneability of a character cast is in actually making sales.
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My creative pitch is infinitely variable nft waifu's as characters in a tactical role-playing game with permadeath and a gatcha mechanic. Procedurally generated backstory and dialog taking up 95% of dev resources to sell these RNG characters. Gotta check all the boxes for a money printer.
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I've been making good progress on this space sim tycoon thing. You can now make auto-scanning ships to scan for asteroids and auto-mining ships which will mine the scanned asteroids and when their storage fills up they dump them off at their anchored station. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LCUBBSUhEo I'm using ECS for the first time in a serious way and it's kinda great for the way I program. I'm able to keep things nice and encapsulated while still flexible and I can really layer on the complexity without as much compounding tech debt.
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Lucid Dream posted:I've been making good progress on this space sim tycoon thing. You can now make auto-scanning ships to scan for asteroids and auto-mining ships which will mine the scanned asteroids and when their storage fills up they dump them off at their anchored station. This is extremely satisfying in a very real way. I've always had a soft spot for top-down ship games way back to Innerspace and this is scratching that same itch. SweetBro posted:Man, waifu/husbando culture of character driven games is going to lead me to eventually having to say "okay, but this character needs more butt" to a modeler and I'm not looking forward to it. Hopefully you'll never have to say this to anybody unless you really want to. Marketing will always suggest that thirst traps are a guaranteed profit model. They're not wrong! They also might not care about what your target demo is or the intent of your project. Good marketing teams will know how to draw eyes without compromising or misrepresenting the product, but the absolute success of horny gacha is like catnip to publishers that want that perpetual revenue. Which speaks to your other point: the mainstream culture of the industry honestly has grown a lot since the '90s and the sleazy marketing angles that were more in line with, like, fragrances and fashion, but the nature of people is still the same. (Also I guess the ad strategy has shifted to the mobile market, so.) Even if every art director were to excise traditionally hot designs from their lineups, modders and freelancers would just ... bring them back. Or change the existing ones. Horny finds a way. There's a definite awareness of this secondary market and, naturally, the more cynical types will insist on attempting to direct that money to the primary product. Every freelance commission is missed revenue. That said, artists being asked to revise designs is just part of the job, but I guarantee you a lot of us would be A-OK with being told to get wild, lol. M_Gargantua posted:My creative pitch is infinitely variable nft waifu's as characters in a tactical role-playing game with permadeath and a gatcha mechanic. Procedurally generated backstory and dialog taking up 95% of dev resources to sell these RNG characters. Gotta check all the boxes for a money printer. i see you have also played fire emblem stay night
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You don't have to be horny to sell. Plenty of very successful games have no horniness to them at all. And frankly, I for one prefer it when I'm able to cleanly separate the horny aspects of my life from the non-horny aspects.M_Gargantua posted:My creative pitch is infinitely variable nft waifu's as characters in a tactical role-playing game with permadeath and a gatcha mechanic. Procedurally generated backstory and dialog taking up 95% of dev resources to sell these RNG characters. Gotta check all the boxes for a money printer. Just to be the boring person here: NFTs are not money printers, and they weren't even before the most recent crypto crash. Otherwise: ...YEP
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:And frankly, I for one prefer it when I'm able to cleanly separate the horny aspects of my life from the non-horny aspects. My life has no non-horny aspects.
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SweetBro posted:Man, waifu/husbando culture of character driven games is going to lead me to eventually having to say "okay, but this character needs more butt" to a modeler and I'm not looking forward to it. New blender slider implemented that has extremes of "Hank Hill" and "OMG Becky" TooMuchAbstraction posted:You don't have to be horny to sell. Plenty of very successful games have no horniness to them at all. And frankly, I for one prefer it when I'm able to cleanly separate the horny aspects of my life from the non-horny aspects. You don't have to be horny to sell, but I can't ever imagine a situation where adding horny to a game reduces your sales.
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There's a time and place for all things, including horny, but some people are planted firmly in the "all the time" camp which has given us things like nexusmods and the mobile game industry
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Polio Vax Scene posted:You don't have to be horny to sell, but I can't ever imagine a situation where adding horny to a game reduces your sales. Certainly, there's an attitude in a lot of the industry that adding horny doesn't decrease your market size and might increase it, so you might as well. But I'm not sure I'd necessarily agree. As a trivial counter-example, a game that's targeted towards young children should probably not have horny designs, just like it shouldn't have ultra-violence. But also, there is a segment of the market that appreciates content specifically for not being horny, so I can conceive of somehow managing to target that market. Would that get you more sales than the same game with horny elements? That's a very hard question to answer. One thing I do wish more game designers would do is make their character designs coherent. It drives me bonkers when visual designs (including animation) clash with a character's personality. If you have a hard-bitten, bitter character, they're probably not going to be shaking their rear end in their walk cycle, or constantly leaning over to give a view down their chest. Same goes for bashful, blushing types. By a similar token, if you have a cutscene where someone is going through a traumatic experience, that is not a good time to show off their "assets", so to speak. If you're gonna make a sexy character, then please have their personality and the way they're framed by the camera and story buy into that presentation. Look at Bayonetta for a rare example of doing it right.
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Lucid Dream posted:I've been making good progress on this space sim tycoon thing. You can now make auto-scanning ships to scan for asteroids and auto-mining ships which will mine the scanned asteroids and when their storage fills up they dump them off at their anchored station. Hey if you'd like some free basic art for this let me know, I love drawing 2d space environments and spaceships and stuff. I even made myself a stars & nebula skybox generator built out of hand-drawn space parts  I would love a project to work on and I'm way into the idea of a game like this.You can see some examples of skyboxes from that skybox generator (very gaudy for demonstration purposes but would obviously be toned down for use in a game) and some other space stuff I've drawn relatively recently here: https://imgur.com/a/ZlniHFp deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jul 7, 2022 |
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deep dish peat moss posted:Hey if you'd like some free basic art for this let me know, I love drawing 2d space environments and spaceships and stuff. I even made myself a stars & nebula skybox generator built out of hand-drawn space parts Hey, thanks for the offer but I'm probably going to keep it to just abstract shapes and focus purely on gameplay for the foreseeable future. My intention is to more or less replicate playing X4 from the galaxy map so anything more than abstract icons right now is probably counterproductive. If/when I get the full breadth of the gameplay stuff finished (economic sim, simple combat, missions, etc) then I'll start seriously considering whether or not I want to move down a level of abstraction to the point where there would be ships with proper sprites and turret placements and stuff.
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Why are you being so rude about your procedural Hans Zimmer soundtrack?
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Got to say that one of the benefits of working with a low system requirement engine like Godot, is that you can use an old laptop to bang out a prototype of the less sexy(but still vital) stuff like key rebinding , even when you are away from your main computer for a few days.
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Super Foul Egg posted:Why are you being so rude about your procedural Hans Zimmer soundtrack? To be clear, the bug previously was that you'd be blasting away with your foghorn, then one of those little AA lasers would decide it wanted to go "bzz" and would cut the foghorn off. That is clearly a critical issue that needs to be fixed pronto 
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Hel posted:Got to say that one of the benefits of working with a low system requirement engine like Godot, is that you can use an old laptop to bang out a prototype of the less sexy(but still vital) stuff like key rebinding , even when you are away from your main computer for a few days. I haven't yet put Godot Engine on my Steam Deck but at some point I'm sure gonna. It'll be both the development environment and the main export target! Though I got half a day into a simple 3D voxel greybox and ran into a year-old physics bug. That's been a bit disheartening.
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 Nothin' major but it's the first time I've bothered to actually animate a walking sprite instead of just having them bob up and down or whatever Part of the reason all of my characters are weird aliens is because lmao at the idea of trying to get human animations down, with this I can just say "they're a big headed grey alien who walks with a weird swagger"  
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