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steinrokkan posted:Does it have any personal touches, or is it just the wiki before the wiki? Just the latter, really, but it's nice to have sitting on the desk for reference sometimes. I have like 5 of the LNP apps open over two monitors, it's nice to not have to open another app
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Sultan Tarquin posted:I bought that just because the idea that someone wrote a book on dwarf fortress was so absurd that I felt like I had to, even though I already knew how to play. Not only that, but it was sold on a site mostly known for selling highly technical manuals on like esoteric C++ techniques and poo poo. Wolfechu posted:Just the latter, really, but it's nice to have sitting on the desk for reference sometimes. I have like 5 of the LNP apps open over two monitors, it's nice to not have to open another app I had the keybindings for adventure mode printed out and taped to the wall behind my monitor for a year
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I've still got the key sequences for building walls and doors seared in and I haven't touched this for at least 3 years.
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Toady posted:I got started on the settings menu. Switching between windowed and fullscreen mode has always been fast with F11, but now additionally in the settings video tab you get a drop down list of available resolutions if you'd like to switch for any reason during play. I'm currently adding in the rest of the options from init and d_init to various tabs. Yesterday I handled file i/o. You'll normally leave the data/init files alone. Instead your changes would be saved over in a prefs folder. You won't need to touch these outside the game if you don't want to, but if you like messing with txts, they'd be there to fiddle with, and updates of the game you download would never overwrite your changes (it will need to overwrite the default files when new options are added etc.)
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It's hard to justify an iron dwarf mode because of how easy dwarf fortress is on its face. Even without traps or drawbridges or moats or whatever my fortress has beaten three forgotten beasts and a hill giant with minimal military investment, just a ragtag single squad of random weapon users. Like you almost have to try to get a game over, so what would be the point of an ironman mode?
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All my game overs have been on a siege when I realized I left the bridge i built five seasons ago with retract rather than close.
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Jul 6, 2022 10:30
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Include a "living legends" mode where you have a chance to randomly inhabit other players' world maps if it fits your parameters. They had a pocket island that stopped worldgen at year 20? Well I guess you've got some history to catch up on, son
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Jul 6, 2022 10:51
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Not entirely accurate, but fair https://twitter.com/lumnmch/status/1543687491819130884
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Jul 6, 2022 12:54
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Painstakingly checking the info and relationship screens of every incoming immigrant is a pretty reliable way to identify vampires, but I'm pretty tired of it. I'm thinking of locking all immigrants in a big, finely decorated room with beds and some workshops but no food and waiting until they're all hungry before letting them out. Any reason this won't work?
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Jul 6, 2022 17:34
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If you capture and train a Giant Bat as a hunting animal and tie it to a chain in your entrance it will enter combat with any vampire that walks by.
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Pretty sure that’s bullshit
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M_Gargantua posted:If you capture and train a Giant Bat as a hunting animal and tie it to a chain in your entrance it will enter combat with any vampire that walks by. this is a post a vampire would make
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Jul 6, 2022 18:58
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If you import or grow garlic and use stockpile manipulation to ensure it gets used for prepared meals then vampires will start bleeding from the gums in your dining hall, thus exposing them.
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Jul 6, 2022 19:02
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M_Gargantua posted:If you import or grow garlic and use stockpile manipulation to ensure it gets used for prepared meals then vampires will start bleeding from the gums in your dining hall, thus exposing them. i's there some informal law about things that sounds plausible in dwarf fortress, but it's impossible to know for sure without rigorous testing.
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Spanish Matlock posted:It's hard to justify an iron dwarf mode because of how easy dwarf fortress is on its face. Even without traps or drawbridges or moats or whatever my fortress has beaten three forgotten beasts and a hill giant with minimal military investment, just a ragtag single squad of random weapon users. This definitely is not the case for non-veterans--there's a reason the tagline is "losing is fun." And there are plenty of states other than "game over" that might make you want to restart. The first few times you face a siege or megabeast or cavern breach, or try messing with moving water or magma, or even just keeping your basic agriculture balanced with big migrant waves, can lead to major death spirals, since it can be hard to even tell that a problem is happening until it's too late to fix, assuming you even know the solution.
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Jul 6, 2022 19:29
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When I started playing I died an awful lot to "I tried to make an aquifer but instead instantly flooded my dining hall"
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Jul 6, 2022 19:47
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Ah yes my several embarrassing fortress wipes due to terrible attempts at breaching the underground river for irrigation.  Sometimes I kinda miss the straightforward deeper-into-the-mountain progression of Pre-Z dwarf fortress, to be honest.
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Jul 6, 2022 19:49
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I have accidentally ended so many forts via water physics
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Jul 6, 2022 21:33
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Arrath posted:Ah yes my several embarrassing fortress wipes due to terrible attempts at breaching the underground river for irrigation. I would love a psuedo-2d mode where he sticks you on a 1 z level map configured to have the dig-too-deep into the walls and somehow bring back menacing monkeys and elephants. He's gonna get a ton of players who have been playing shallow DF-lites and the 1z format might be more familiar to them.
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Is there any known way to edit the raws in such a way that goblins are still... y'know, goblins, but don't inevitably conquer the world in 150 years every time?
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Khanstant posted:I would love a psuedo-2d mode where he sticks you on a 1 z level map configured to have the dig-too-deep into the walls and somehow bring back menacing monkeys and elephants. He's gonna get a ton of players who have been playing shallow DF-lites and the 1z format might be more familiar to them. That's a fair point, it would be a good way to let players dip their toes into the game while keeping it a bit simpler. God knows I still build my Rimworld bases that way, finding a nice big mountain to cozy up against and dig into.
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VideoWitch posted:I have accidentally ended so many forts via water physics My favorite horrible disaster was when I embarked on what I thought was a permafrost tile. I dug a shallow fort in the ice, thinking everything was fine and dandy. Then came summer and it turned out I dug all my rooms centered on a very not-frozen and very active river. Everyone died immediately except one dwarf. That dwarf, Urist McSmith, spent his final days locked in his submerged bedroom like some doomed Pearl Harbor sailor. What he thought was a transient accommodation in the topsoil became his eternal resting place. Godspeed, Urist. 
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haha i do that with dwarf forts too, Sure, you can dig down anywhere, but in my head I'm still visualizing the place in 3d like minecraft, and carving into a natural looking landscape beats building walls around a staircase i dig to hell and back.
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VideoWitch posted:I have accidentally ended so many forts via water physics The result: 168 dwarves drowned, 12 survived on the workshop floor, and my stockpiles were washed out the front door of the fort and into a very large walled off area that became a lake. The twelve surviving dwarves subsequently went insane and murdered each other. The most memorable bit was the moment I noticed that a dwarf had failed to construct that one bit of wall and the job had been automatically flagged "do not do" or forbidden or whatever it was and I realised that there was no hope in hell of me stopping the disaster about to unfold and I just covered my face with my hands and went "gently caress".
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I intentionally breached an aquifer on one of my first forts because I hadn't prepared for goblins and got a siege. I like to imagine the lone dwarf with his pickaxe singing a song at the top of his lungs as he smashed down the wall and drowned everyone, dwarf and goblin alike. It felt like an appropriate end to that game.
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I hope the steam version ships with some different audio tracks because I just started playing this again a couple of days ago for the first time in a few years and jfc that guitar has been haunting my brain constantly since then
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M_Gargantua posted:If you import or grow garlic and use stockpile manipulation to ensure it gets used for prepared meals then vampires will start bleeding from the gums in your dining hall, thus exposing them. Thanks dickhead, Toady just stopped all Steam DF development to implement realistic horsehair toothbrushes. This toothbrush menaces with spikes of plaque.
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goatsestretchgoals posted:Thanks dickhead, Toady just stopped all Steam DF development to implement realistic horsehair toothbrushes. This carving is of a Dwarven Breadmaker brushing his teeth. The toothbrush is made of chicken bone and horse hair. The toothbrush menaces with spikes of Andesite. The Dwarf's gums are bleeding. The Dwarf is screaming. The Toothbrush is screaming. The Bleeding gums are screaming.
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Lemon posted:I hope the steam version ships with some different audio tracks because I just started playing this again a couple of days ago for the first time in a few years and jfc that guitar has been haunting my brain constantly since then Grab the lazy newb pack, it comes with Soundsense and there's a ton more music in there that really fits the game. It gets repetitive too eventually, but then anything is going to given how long games of DF can last
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I wonder if they'll record more music for the steam release. It would be kind of odd if they put all this effort into sprucing the UI and graphics up and just left in the same single guitar track. I love that track though, just give me more of that and I'd be happy.
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That singular track is really great, and learning that Toady composed it himself made it even greater!
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oh yeah just to clarify I do like the track it was just driving me slightly mad
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Well just the other page had a roadmap posted https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/975370/view/3099043827445055732 And a quote from that: quote:1. Finish the menus that haven't been upgraded yet. These include the graphics and layout for justice, health, diplomacy, and hauling. These aren't small tasks; each will take weeks. I'll also be working with Jacob during this period on the sprites we need to update throughout the project. He submitted the new weapons recently, for instance, and I also got a new batch of music from the composer. It's important to get these things incorporated in a timely fashion so everybody can keep working.
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Lemon posted:oh yeah just to clarify I do like the track it was just driving me slightly mad That just means it's working. Keep playing it.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Well just the other page had a roadmap posted Oh nice, didn't realize they had someone working on that. Kinda bummed it won't be Tarn just jamming out though. Hopefully it's more acoustic guitar.
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Holy smokes steam workshop support! I didn’t know that was in the plan, that’s awesome.
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I imagine Matt Uelman remastering Tarn's music would have been incredible. Do we know who the new composer is? Do they have any previous work?
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Mzbundifund posted:Holy smokes steam workshop support! I didn’t know that was in the plan, that’s awesome. Congrats to the first person to make a "no aqueducts" mod
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You mean aquifers? That's also one of the things that are supposed to be fixed/improved in the upcoming version, making them less difficult to get past.
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