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sebzilla posted:War never changes and Flamin' Hot remains the Correct flavour of Munch. ...See you in another 3 years
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Guavanaut posted:The Webb telescope is going to show that everywhere else is fine and it's just us that messed up. I hope that it accidentally proves the Zoo Hypothesis within the Fermi Paradox, and we find out that we're not alone in the galaxy/universe, we're just being kept at arms length and perhaps cared for. That would be very wholesome.
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Finding evidence of alien life is the absolute worst resolution to the Great Filter and basically means we are completely doomed.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/07/no-new-policies-under-my-leadership-boris-johnson-confirms Congrats UK, while they sort out this hissy fit you will have no government for several months.
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Lid posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/07/no-new-policies-under-my-leadership-boris-johnson-confirms Again the government goes on holiday over the summer anyway so that is quite normal.
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How mad must boris be knowing that if he could held onto power for a few more years he probably could have just ignored democracy altogether like the US conservatives are going to Must really burn him getting that close.
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OwlFancier posted:Again the government goes on holiday over the summer anyway so that is quite normal. They loving love not doing any work. The entire DWP is a monument to projection
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Brendan Rodgers posted:I hope that it accidentally proves the Zoo Hypothesis within the Fermi Paradox, and we find out that we're not alone in the galaxy/universe, we're just being kept at arms length and perhaps cared for. That would be very wholesome. Why should they? 'Aw lets take care of these creatures that happily kill each other due to anything different than themselves. They might accept us as equals in a few millennia.' Nah, there is a beacon somewhere in the solar system, obviously undetectable by us, with two messages on it. The first is to warn other space farers to leave us alone, as we will try to gently caress them, sell them poo poo, sell THEM as slaves, teach them our religions, and again kill them for any differences we perceive 5 mins after the 'welcome space brothers' aura fades. The second is for us, when we do get to detect it, and it will say 'This solar system is yours. You do not own anything else. When you are ready, you will be contacted.'
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happyhippy posted:Why should they? Well it would be like a Zoo, we wouldn't be a threat to them, and our containment would provide them with entertainment, and perhaps a sense of stewardship and thus a moral mandate for controlling the galaxy.
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I don't know if it counts as containment if humans just keep killing each other and doing stupid poo poo. It's like watching a wild animal scream at its own balls until it passes out and saying "yep, got that one contained" Containment in the sense that the habsburg monarchy was contained.
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How the hell could we recognize signs of intelligence outside Earth when we can't even define signs of intelligence on Earth
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gregday posted:Finding evidence of alien life is the absolute worst resolution to the Great Filter and basically means we are completely doomed. Do you mean in the sense that it would prove that we aren't the first sapient species? While knowing that we are the first would be very comforting for the Great Filter hypothesis, it would be unprovable, and the Dyson Dilemma is still there. Anyway sorry, I feel like I'm causing a weird derail on this holiest of nights.
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Pretty obvious that the Webb Telescope is going to reveal us to the rest of the Dark Forest and we’ll be blown to smithereens by hostile aliens soon Well deserved
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I thought the simplest answer is just that faster than light travel is impossible and so interstellar society (and quite probably interplanetary society, owing to the energy requirements) are practically impossible.
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Scientastic posted:Pretty obvious that the Webb Telescope is going to reveal us to the rest of the Dark Forest and we’ll be blown to smithereens by hostile aliens soon Carl Sagan doomed us when he sent out the golden record, at least it looked really cool 
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What is wrong with posh people https://twitter.com/shehabkhan/status/1545130286203260933?s=21&t=03_338E_mid1qgBURi1ikw
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OwlFancier posted:I thought the simplest answer is just that faster than light travel is impossible and so interstellar society (and quite probably interplanetary society, owing to the energy requirements) are practically impossible. The thing is if you give a species of say, expansionist hairless apes, just one million years to start colonising the galaxy, they don't even need FTL. When you factor in that the galaxy has had billions of years where it has had the heavier elements and the more mature star systems necessary for life as we understand it, the galaxy should be teeming with life.
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We have a robot colony on mars. I'm yet to be jaded enough not to think this is the coolest poo poo.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:The thing is if you give a species of say, expansionist hairless apes, just one million years to start colonising the galaxy, they don't even need FTL. When you factor in that the galaxy has had billions of years where it has had the heavier elements and the more mature star systems necessary for life as we understand it, the galaxy should be teeming with life. That still doesn't mean that there are any places people would like to live near us, or that we would know if anyone was living on them if there were. Even if the galaxy is full of life there probably are not going to be very many space ships flying around or people blasting radio transmissions all over the place. Also as different planets would have no meaningful contact with each other, it begs the question of why anyone would bother after maybe the first one. There's no centralization of resources over that sort of distance, barely any communication, no cohesive society or governance or ability to project power. You would just be firing off colony ships into the void for the sake of it. And even theoretically habitable worlds are likely to be vastly more hostile than anywhere on earth due to entirely alien biospheres we are completely unadapted to. Considering that space exploration is a quite low priority now because of the lack of utility it offers, it seems pretty reasonable that nobody would bother with it on a large scale. It's a lot of resources for almost certainly zero gain for the people doing it. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jul 7, 2022 |
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peanut- posted:What is wrong with posh people When money is no object and you're incredibly removed from the day to day struggles of existance, you'll buy any old mad poo poo.
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OwlFancier posted:There's no centralization of resources over that sort of distance, barely any communication, no cohesive society or governance or ability to project power. You would just be firing off colony ships into the void for the sake of it.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:I hope that it accidentally proves the Zoo Hypothesis within the Fermi Paradox, and we find out that we're not alone in the galaxy/universe, we're just being kept at arms length and perhaps cared for. That would be very wholesome. the intergalactic equivalent of sentinel island
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It's like if columbus set off for america except there was literally no chance he could ever return, or that there would be any natives he could murder and steal gold off of, because if there were any he would be outnumbered a billion to one and completely cut off from support. Probably wouldn't have bothered.
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Lid posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/07/no-new-policies-under-my-leadership-boris-johnson-confirms Welcome to Northern Ireland... forever!!!  
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Rarity posted:We've been blinkered on trying to recruit a Brit for too long, it's time to get in the best talent in the world Technically the last chap was a yank.
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The tedious pragmatism of goons. The actual reason to colonise other planets is it would be super loving cool and definitely bragworthy
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OwlFancier posted:It's like if columbus set off for america except there was literally no chance he could ever return, or that there would be any natives he could murder and steal gold off of, because if there were any he would be outnumbered a billion to one and completely cut off from support. Probably wouldn't have bothered. Salt by Adam Roberts explores this and is well worth reading if you like scifi. I sometimes wonder if settling other planets is a bit like the original settlement of some of the remote islands of the south pacific like Easter Island. Polynesians were excellent navigators and sailors given what they had, but what would you have to be escaping for it to be a rational choice to put your family and entire material possessions in a flimsy little vessel and head out into the emptiness.
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peanut- posted:What is wrong with posh people trolleys and rugs and chairs and poo poo aren't a renovation... theyre just 20k of expensive poo poo you buy to put in a flat whether its renovated or not? wtf?
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I would assume they probably discovered and explored the islands before setting out with all the stuff, and already living on small islands presumably the want is "some loving space"
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I'm more surprised by how staggeringly ugly it all looks. Even though I'm sure it was arranged to looks so intentionally.
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Private Speech posted:I'm more surprised by how staggeringly ugly it all looks. The government, the planet, the universe.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Carl Sagan doomed us when he sent out the golden record, at least it looked really cool It did have a message from a member of the SS though so plusses and minuses to the golden record definitely
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learnincurve posted:We have a robot colony on mars. The Mysterons? Brendan Rodgers posted:Carl Sagan doomed us when he sent out the golden record, at least it looked really cool yeah I've got megatron holding mine. I say holding, it's tucked behind between his head and the dino kibble on his back like a halo
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OwlFancier posted:I would assume they probably discovered and explored the islands before setting out with all the stuff, and already living on small islands presumably the want is "some loving space" In the case of Easter Island the king had a dream and sent a bunch of people out in a random direction where there was no record of land. Not recorded: how many other times he pulled that stunt.
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Lid posted:https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1545109628870168578?t=5UN-J9Dor6HWTMIw3KeJ_w&s=19 Ah good, Johnny Mercer, the guy who thinks you shouldn't be allowed to prosecute soldiers who do war crimes is in the cabinet. Fucksake, Boris's supporters really are the worst
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I wish Boris Johnson well on finding his next mistress to impregnate. I too, am a gentleman who refuses to pull out.
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