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Cyrano4747 posted:Apfelschorle and wine is my go-to for that. Apfelschorle is basically half and half apple juice and carbonated mineral water, and then you half-and-half that with white wine and it is INCREDIBLY refreshing while still putting enough alcohol in you that you'll catch a buzz after a couple pints. Oh, thank you. I always forget about Apfelschorle until august or something, but it's amazing. e: What a weird snipe. Drink Apfelschorle.
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Tetrabor posted:Sounds like your IT is behind by an entire generation because Single Sign-On services have been a thing for a while now. At least one critical system still runs on an AS400 and we have low single digit developers/etc actively working on our systems, and have for a long time. I'm completely unsurprised when this poo poo happens normally. The part that does surprise me is that it's loving Microsoft Teams that's locked down like this, while every other Microsoft software uses the unified login system tied to our 2FA. But Teams and only Teams is out of that ecosystem.
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I had to spend 20 minutes of my life (so far) explaining how to resize and copy/paste a table in PowerPoint to a 40 something year old who has been working in corporate offices his entire career and I would like someone to come over here and kill me please.
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Lazyfire posted:I had to spend 20 minutes of my life (so far) explaining how to resize and copy/paste a table in PowerPoint to a 40 something year old who has been working in corporate offices his entire career and I would like someone to come over here and kill me please. Why you and not him? A greater good would be done killing him.
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Jul 7, 2022 20:41
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Agents are GO! posted:What is it about upper-management brain that can't understand "people love WFH." I think it's a few things. 1) As was mentioned before, the whole "How am I supposed to be lord of all I survey if I step out of my office and there's nobody there diligently trying to look busy in front of me so I don't fire them?" 2) People who only had a social life because of forced work interaction suddenly finding themselves lonely. 3) The (false) impression that the Great Resignation is over and they can go back to bullying people to act how they want because they don't have a choice. 4) I base this on very little, but basically the idea that a lot of people do want a Return to Office, but are being bullied/pressured/are the silent majority compared to a handful of complainers.
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Jul 7, 2022 21:17
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Neito posted:I think it's a few things. 5) a persistent belief that you can't trust your workers and they will slack off every chance they get. See also: why cubicles have those low walls anyone standing up can see over, and why actual offices are reserved for the trusted managers. Of course the actual productivity of offices during WFH generally disprove this. Ignored in all of it is the fact that people just don't work effectively like robots, hammering away for 8 hours straight until the whistle sounds, and even in-office work has a FUCKLOAD of slack time where people are chatting with their neighbors or loving with their phones or browsing the internet on their work computer etc. There's also 6) the argument that spontaneous interaction with co-workers spurs cooperative collaboration and good ideas. This is the one that I'll kind of grant for specific industries. I could see a silicon valley office maybe working better as people bounce ideas off each other, but then again in my non-techie experience people do that plenty well via text chat and video calls too.
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Jul 7, 2022 21:37
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SkyeAuroline posted:Okay, we have a lot of computer touchers who are at least IT adjacent here, so maybe someone can explain a small bit of "the poo poo I have to clean up now after a new IT guy came by to fix a small problem and accidentally broke everything on my work computer": Your IT is likely run by someone who learned IT in the 90's, read way too much BOFH, and hasn't learned anything about cybersecurity since 2005. They aren't in the ballpark of current best practices.
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Jul 7, 2022 21:44
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Ive had plenty of hotel IT straight up tell me to not instal Windows updates because it breaks the hotel management app, because they dont pay the devs for tech support. Shits hosed.
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Jul 7, 2022 21:47
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Cthulu Carl posted:Some types of mezcal have a worm in them, there's some bar in like Canada or Alaska that has a drink that contains a mummified toe, why can't we have a bird beer?! I've had the mummified toe shot in Dawson city. It's a dumb gimmick but I did it anyway. Next stop cannibalism.
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We have a division all-hands quarterly meeting coming up. It's been virtual for a while but since voluntary return to office they reserved a bunch of conference rooms for people who are in office. Our department VP sent a message to all managers asking for us to share how we are motivating our teams to come in to experience this meeting in person. Here is the thing... even when it was fully virtual we never had anyone attend live* because we don't have the capacity. We need everyone to staff our busy hotline and process client requests. If we had people go we'd miss our daily service levels and piss off all our clients. Literally not a single manager has replied to this VP. Not even the suck ups. Because we all know that we aren't asking anyone to go into the office for this meeting because they won't be attending it. *It's recorded for people to watch later which is what some do but it's usually not worth watching anyway.
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Jul 7, 2022 22:50
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Zero One posted:We have a division all-hands quarterly meeting coming up. It's been virtual for a while but since voluntary return to office they reserved a bunch of conference rooms for people who are in office. My group is in the same boat. We send one person and have them summarize it in a future turbo for everyone else. And they can go virtually or in person, the content is the same either way.
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Jul 7, 2022 23:07
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Cyrano4747 posted:Apfelschorle and wine is my go-to for that. Apfelschorle is basically half and half apple juice and carbonated mineral water, and then you half-and-half that with white wine and it is INCREDIBLY refreshing while still putting enough alcohol in you that you'll catch a buzz after a couple pints. Whiskyschorle bitte
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Jul 7, 2022 23:16
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Escape From Noise posted:I think helles and lemonade (European lemonade, so lemon soda to Americans) and hefeweissen with lemonade is a Ruß. Hefeweissen with coke is a slur. Or was. Considering that the current beer hotness is inventing soda from first principles this could be your breweries viral meme beer. Hefe with coke wtf....
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Jul 7, 2022 23:41
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Cyrano4747 posted:There's also 6) the argument that spontaneous interaction with co-workers spurs cooperative collaboration and good ideas. This is the one that I'll kind of grant for specific industries. I could see a silicon valley office maybe working better as people bounce ideas off each other, but then again in my non-techie experience people do that plenty well via text chat and video calls too. When everyone at my office got sent home for COVID, the people I sat near started up a Slack thread to resume our usual conversations about the news, what people are up to, quick questions to see if someone else knows the answer, etc. which we would normally have just stood up or walked to the next cube to discuss. We’ve since added people that we can tolerate who are in different departments or different parts of the world, and I’d say at least 50% of the projects that the IT teams represented in the chat need to work together on involve some level of collaboration through our little shitpost/gossip-replacement channel. If we all went back to the office, everyone outside of the main site, and even people who sit in a different part of the building would find themselves excluded. Office water cooler bullshit has been measurably improved by working from home. The managers who want us all back in the office want us there so they can watch and micromanage the work being done, even though they get to take credit for higher-quality work today. It’s never been about improving the actual end product; it’s about making sure upper management gets to see middle management doing something.
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Jul 8, 2022 00:02
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Tetrabor posted:Sounds like your IT is behind by an entire generation because Single Sign-On services have been a thing for a while now. I have a SSO behind another SSO behind 2FA behind a login screen that connects to the company intranet. So I definitely do that every time instead of saving passwords in chrome on my personal device.
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Jul 8, 2022 00:04
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evilpicard posted:I have a SSO behind another SSO behind 2FA behind a login screen that connects to the company intranet. So I definitely do that every time instead of saving passwords in chrome on my personal device. Get bitwarden, its pretty good.
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Jul 8, 2022 00:46
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Cyrano4747 posted:There's also 6) the argument that spontaneous interaction with co-workers spurs cooperative collaboration and good ideas. This is the one that I'll kind of grant for specific industries. I could see a silicon valley office maybe working better as people bounce ideas off each other, but then again in my non-techie experience people do that plenty well via text chat and video calls too. The younger generations do this just fine with messenger programs. Just casually talking poo poo at their workstation or adding their $0.02 from their phone while getting a coffee on the other side of town, which is all behavior the boss likely would see as goofing off anyways. It really is a desire for control and abject rejection of how the work market and world itself is changing. Oh and lots of companies being stuck with massive piles of commercial real estate they either own or are trapped in a lease for that's now sitting empty.
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My MegaCorp had a bad parking situation pre-pandemic and without being management/having two decades of seniority it meant getting there earlier and earlier to avoid a long shuttle ride. Was poorly handled, as you might imagine when those with power aren’t impacted. We’d sometimes get patronizing auction offerings of being able to use a VP’s spot for two weeks while he was on vacation. Pandemic fixed the issue as so many folk are WFH there are plenty of good spots any time of day, but it’s weird they still haven’t freed up the usually empty assigned spots. I’d guess it’s because having an assigned spot used to be a status symbol and they don’t want to give that up.
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Jul 8, 2022 01:12
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dervinosdoom posted:Why you and not him? A greater good would be done killing him. My wife works for the same company and deals with him on occasion. Thankfully, her reaction was the same as yours.
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Just had a "training" (which wasn't training, it was a presentation/info dump) for the new timesheet system. Timesheets for the whole week are due at 1400 Thursday "for finance". I asked how it helps finance when they can't bill the client with estimated numbers. No answer. You can retroactively adjust last week's timesheets on Friday evening/Monday morning to reflect reality. So why is it due so strictly on the Thursday? No answer.
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Jul 8, 2022 02:59
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It's because someone has a report due on Fridays
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They redid our timekeeping system at work a few years ago and The jerk who ran that department stress to all of us that we had to log in at the end of each day and put in our time for that day not to put it in advance. No one in our office works hourly. She would go in the system and report to managers if employees were putting their time in ahead of schedule. Talk about someone who didn't have anything to do. Of course just like you they wanted us to have time done on Thursday even though we had to work Friday and it pissed that manager off to no end that employees got to put their time in for Friday on Thursday. Like everyone was going to take Fridays off or something. It was ridiculous. Now at the beginning of the pay period I just put in my time for the whole pay period and then sign off on it. I'm salaried anyway so who cares. Received word about return to the office. And now we all have to wear masks in the building the entire time we're there because COVID is high. Management doesn't want to hear that maybe we should just stay at home... So now we're going to have one unproductive day a week in the office just to make the bigwig happy that butts are in seats. It is absolutely ridiculous. I brought up to my supervisor that we should just have tuberculosis Tuesdays or something and just stay home.
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Jul 8, 2022 03:08
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Billable timesheet creep is 50% reports of revenue realizing this week, 50% having an extra day to ask hey where's your time sheet before realizing whatever is in the system Friday COB, estimate or not. I don't know why they'd be so cagey in training unless the trainer also thinks it's dumb which they probably do. An accountants entire job description is figuring out how to realize revenue sooner and delay costs as long as possible. Spelling this out about why your timesheet system has dumb due dates isn't exactly going to gain support from normal people
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Jul 8, 2022 03:10
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The Something Awful Forums > Main > General Bullshit > Dumb poo poo your work does - tuberculosis Tuesdays
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DreadUnknown posted:Ive had plenty of hotel IT straight up tell me to not instal Windows updates because it breaks the hotel management app, because they dont pay the devs for tech support. Shits hosed. I've seen what Oracle charges for Opera and I almost might not blame them if I also didn't know how much money hotels make.
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I joined a consulting firm. They sent me to a big ranch where everyone is very nice. This is definitely a fuckin' cult but the benefit plan is baller.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I joined a consulting firm. They sent me to a big ranch where everyone is very nice. Game the system. Avoid HR like the plague. Smile and accuse Gary from accounting of subversive thoughts. You'll be fine.
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Helter Skelter posted:I've seen what Oracle charges for Opera and I almost might not blame them if I also didn't know how much money hotels make. I actually like Opera for the most part, but yeah given what I know about the greed of hotel owners I can believe it. Those fuckers would rather have a high front desk turnover than spend money on getting the desk like good equipment.
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ultrafilter posted:The Something Awful Forums > Main > General Bullshit > Dumb poo poo your work does - Tuberculosis Tuesdays And Malaria Mondays!
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I joined a consulting firm. They sent me to a big ranch where everyone is very nice. Are we sure this is really Rent-A-Cop, and not someone just telling us they've gone to a nice sunny place they can run free and be happy upstate somewhere? 
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zedprime posted:Billable timesheet creep is 50% reports of revenue realizing this week, 50% having an extra day to ask hey where's your time sheet before realizing whatever is in the system Friday COB, estimate or not. The Husband is the only non-engineer in his office and pretty much handles everything that's not sales or engineering. This includes payroll. Timesheets are due on Fridays. However, invariably, on processing day, Tuesday, there are always several missing, Also, invariably, there are at least one or two that will NOT be turned in for processing and have to be estimated for a correction in the next week. He tried once to implement natural consequences (No timesheet, no pay) that most other businesses use and there was such a hue and cry over it (from the people who didn't turn in their timesheets) that it was decided to just estimate for payroll. Overall, his company is a good place to work. He has flexible hours, the bosses try to be fair to their workers, but, at the end of the day, they are still engineers. Getting them to do something is like herding cats.
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On the topic of timesheeting software, we just got a new one that is meant to save time and cut down on the amount of emails created by our back and forth review process. I'm holding judgement on whether this actually makes timesheeting easier once I've gotten used to it, but the replacement review system is like... The previous system was sending the document attached to an email with REVIEW in the title that allows it to be filtered. Get doc, look at it, send amended version back. Now the 'streamlined' system involves me uploading documents directly to a OneDrive, getting a sharepoint link, sharing it on the 'job page' of this timesheeting app, then leaving a comment on this page that @'s the relevant people. This makes no noise beyond a silent app notification (it only works on desktops, not mobile either) so you have to enable email notifications that you've been tagged if you actually want to see this. Then they have to comment and tag me when they're done, sending a separate email, and I have to go in and make the changes to this online only version of the document, then re-download it back to my PC and save it manually onto the server anyway. How to turn a 30 second process into a 10 minute headache 101.
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I was all set to hate my companies time keeping software because its called "King of Time" but its genuinely the best Ive ever used and takes about 30 seconds a month to close out my teams timesheets
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... and here we just keep time with vague estimates in a shared Excel sheet. (They're always ridiculously off.)
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BrideOfUglycat posted:He tried once to implement natural consequences (No timesheet, no pay) that most other businesses use and there was such a hue and cry over it (from the people who didn't turn in their timesheets) that it was decided to just estimate for payroll. I am somewhat empathetic to the financial controllers who needs timesheets inputted to do their jobs, but for a salaried employee it's probably illegal to link payroll to timesheets and justifiably so.
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Tetrabor posted:Sounds like your IT is behind by an entire generation because Single Sign-On services have been a thing for a while now. At a former employer I had three different SSOs
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Barudak posted:I was all set to hate my companies time keeping software because its called "King of Time" but its genuinely the best Ive ever used and takes about 30 seconds a month to close out my teams timesheets Is that name accompanied by the sound of thunder?
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Super Waffle posted:At a former employer I had three different SSOs How is this possible? Did you have three email accounts?
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