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thebardyspoon posted:When they come to do a recap for Season 5 it should be Argyle doing the recap of the 4 seasons in character, possibly with Murray accompanying him. I hope Murray gets a karate showdown with the military guys coming for 11.
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The Awesomesaurus posted:Don’t we see Mindscape-Vecna writhing in pain the moment all of the Demodogs and Demogorgon get flamethrowered? It looked like more of a dramatic reaction than expected just from Eleven pushing him away from Max. Yeah after Mike says 'I love you El' and 11 mind-pushes Vecna away, there is a short moment where Vecna is immobilised and writhing. Presumably from Team Russia BBQ'ing the Demogorgons. But as said before, the show never really delved into this aspect of Vecna, so it came a bit out of nowhere. And it also seemed redundent because 11 just went Super Sayan and could take Vecna by herself (as far as the audience knows). The premise is cool: Vecna is confident in his victory because he can mindread Team Hawkins. But because of the help of 11 and Team Russia Vecna can be defeated (temporarily). But everything that should connect Team Russia to the other plots is missing or underdeveloped. Hell, just let 11 mindvisit a sleeping Joyce to give her a hint about what to do.
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Jul 7, 2022 19:47
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About Max and 11 at the end something I'm slightly bothered with, Eleven was specifically dealing with her mind/spirit, not her body. So however she saved Max, her mind should be the thing in tact, or at least there. Eleven didn't restore her heart or physical body, she saved her telepathically. Max's mind being gone at the hospital seems pretty backwards to me.
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Jul 7, 2022 20:00
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iamsosmrt posted:About Max and 11 at the end something I'm slightly bothered with, Eleven was specifically dealing with her mind/spirit, not her body. So however she saved Max, her mind should be the thing in tact, or at least there. Eleven didn't restore her heart or physical body, she saved her telepathically. Max's mind being gone at the hospital seems pretty backwards to me. Mind over matter.
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Clear_Blue posted:Yeah after Mike says 'I love you El' and 11 mind-pushes Vecna away, there is a short moment where Vecna is immobilised and writhing. Presumably from Team Russia BBQ'ing the Demogorgons. But as said before, the show never really delved into this aspect of Vecna, so it came a bit out of nowhere. And it also seemed redundent because 11 just went Super Sayan and could take Vecna by herself (as far as the audience knows). Yeah, I did not even make that connection, I thought he was just writhing because 11 was hurting him. Maybe it would have been clearer if he was smoking/burning. Back in season 2, they did establish that burning the vines was agonizing for the MF itself. But yeah, it seems like a leap to assume that affects Vecna too. I am disappointed that it does seem like the MF is subordinate to Vecna, but at least it was not outright created by him.
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CainFortea posted:Eddie doesn't have perfect knowledge of what else is happening. All he knows is that the longer he can keep the bats distracted, the more chance of success Steven, Nancy, and Robin have. He chose to do the risky thing to give them even more of a chance. I’ve not seen anyone else suggest this as a reason, so I’m likely wrong, but my take on why Eddie didn’t climb through the hole is because he realised that the bats would follow them through into the real world. I took his decision to be less about buying time for the team in the upside down and more about protecting Dustin / Max / Hawkins.
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Jul 7, 2022 21:29
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Just watched the pitch meeting for the season and glad I did after watching episode one and 50% of episode two.
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Man, I avoid those pitch meeting videos because the schtick is annoying and so are the thumbnails for the vids themselves. Season 4 was real good poo poo. Tell me there's a Pitch Meeting for the Pitch Meeting Channel and I'll watch it.
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AndyElusive posted:
I'm pretty sure there is but I'm too lazy to check.
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AndyElusive posted:Man, I avoid those pitch meeting videos because the schtick is annoying and so are the thumbnails for the vids themselves. Also i've noticed that as they got popular they got lazier and their "jokes" are straight up answered in the media.
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Jul 7, 2022 22:10
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According to an interview with the Duffers, season 5 will be shorter one and there will be a spin-off series. Lol.
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Jul 7, 2022 22:16
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It's a 3 camera comedy with a live audience, Steve and Robin move to San Francisco. She's works at a local free news paper and he is a nanny for a rich yuppie couple. Can these two make it in the big city?
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UFOTacoMan posted:Also, I like how they pro-actively showed that electricity worked in the upside down by using corded drills before the electric guitar comes out. I immediately noticed that, too. My detail oriented brain does not allow me to enjoy anything. I am telling myself that they had extension cords going through the portal. also, the guitar Eddie solos on is the UpSide Down version of his guitar. He rocks out Master of Puppets on a hell-axe.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:It's a 3 camera comedy with a live audience, Steve and Robin move to San Francisco. She's works at a local free news paper and he is a nanny for a rich yuppie couple. Can these two make it in the big city? Dustin must be with them.
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fartknocker posted:Dustin must be with them. Dustin is the mid season surprise roomate.
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Jul 7, 2022 23:04
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Dustin will appear in every episode of season 1 but at the end, talking to Steve over a CB reflecting on the day and the lesson learned. He moves to San Francisco to attend Berkeley on season 2 and becomes a series regular.
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In true 80s style, the spinoff is about a character introduced in the final season in a backdoor pilot unconnected with the main plot and featuring only Argyle and Mr. Clarke in a wraparound at the beginning and end.
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not a bot posted:According to an interview with the Duffers, season 5 will be shorter one and there will be a spin-off series. Lol. Eight lives.
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I would genuinely like to see a spinoff that is about Steve and Dustin, now in their 70s or something and still bickering their way through dealing with supernatural poo poo.
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live with fruit posted:Eight lives. come on now, eight is enough
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god the dialogues in this show suck still fun to watch, though. they're seriously making another one though? I thought this was gonna be the end for some reason.
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Yeah basically everything is resolved at the end of s4 so idk why they are bothering
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Avasculous posted:Yeah, I did not even make that connection, I thought he was just writhing because 11 was hurting him. Maybe it would have been clearer if he was smoking/burning. If it started out as a collective consciousness, and Vecna entered its mind, then it wouldn’t be able to identify him as an intruder and would think that his thoughts are its thoughts. Vecna absorbed the people he cursed, so they’re in his mind but not the collective. It’s unclear with the S2 & S3 content. But I’d wager that Will was hooked straight into the collective, meaning that if he can get plugged back in he might be able to wrestle Vecna for control. Vecna despises Hawkins, and I suspect Will loves it even if it has treated him poorly.
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UFOTacoMan posted:He was listening to Master of Puppets on a walkman while learning to play it on an acoustic in the boat house. Clear_Blue posted:Yeah after Mike says 'I love you El' and 11 mind-pushes Vecna away, there is a short moment where Vecna is immobilised and writhing. Presumably from Team Russia BBQ'ing the Demogorgons. But as said before, the show never really delved into this aspect of Vecna, CainFortea posted:Also i've noticed that as they got popular they got lazier and their "jokes" are straight up answered in the media. Marsupial Ape posted:I immediately noticed that, too. My detail oriented brain does not allow me to enjoy anything. Out of nowhere metaphor, but It's a lot like being polyamorous. Jealousy is actually expected, fine, and normal at times and it's okay to ask for help or limited accommodation with it so long as you accept that it's your problem and don't lay the blame on the other people involved or anything they've done.
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sebmojo posted:Yeah basically everything is resolved at the end of s4 so idk why they are bothering Resolved everything!? You know that Hawkins has a giant tear through it now, right??
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tazjin posted:god the dialogues in this show suck I honestly can't see the rationale for a spin-off given how they've bottled up the story. Best guess is that at the end of S5 there's some ongoing Upside Down stuff that acts as the foundation but idk the story overall feels pretty threadbare at this point.
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LividLiquid posted:You're awesome and I super appreciate this because too often people take their noticing a thing for a thing being a problem, then game that out to thing being reason show bad. I also notice tons of things like that, used to be unable to let them not ruin things, and I super worried going to film school would make me way more insufferable about it, but while I'm about as insufferable as I was before, it's about different stuff. It actually made me care a lot less about things like this, because fiction does not and should not live and die based on people like you and me having a weird brain thing. My actual thought process, "Huh. Corded power tools. Does the UpSide Down have a working electrical grid? You know from a book you read 15 years ago that nuclear power plants can actually run autonomously for several days before going into shutdown, but this is ye--shut the gently caress up, they threw some extension cords through the portal into Eddie's house. This is fine." During the climax of Eddie's guitar solo: "Wait a minute. There is an abrupt gravitational reversal upon passing the event horizon of the portal. Would that effect how electrons flow along a circuit? Would the extensions cords work? Would the circuit be broken? Is gravity even a factor?" Then I pause the show and go down a wikipedia hole on my phone.
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sebmojo posted:Yeah basically everything is resolved at the end of s4 so idk why they are bothering I forget where I heard this, it might have been about that John Ritter sitcom he was making when he died or about Newsradio after Phil Hartman died or about Game of Thrones, but basically it was a producer saying that r feels really lovely to throw hundreds of people out of work because you feel the show is getting stale or that the story has a natural endpoint. You are creating something that feeds people’s kids and keeps a roof over their heads and you want to keep it going for that reason even if it is weak or tired.
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not a bot posted:there will be a spin-off series. Lol. As if we had any doubt.
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I AM GRANDO posted:I forget where I heard this, it might have been about that John Ritter sitcom he was making when he died or about Newsradio after Phil Hartman died or about Game of Thrones, but basically it was a producer saying that r feels really lovely to throw hundreds of people out of work because you feel the show is getting stale or that the story has a natural endpoint. You are creating something that feeds people’s kids and keeps a roof over their heads and you want to keep it going for that reason even if it is weak or tired. This was definitely not about game of thrones because those showrunners rejected HBO's repeated offers to make the show 10 seasons. Apparently they were bored of producing the most popular TV show ever and eager to move on to their show about a hypothetical America in which the Confederates won the Civil war.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:This was definitely not about game of thrones because those showrunners rejected HBO's repeated offers to make the show 10 seasons. Apparently they were bored of producing the most popular TV show ever and eager to move on to their show about a hypothetical America in which the Confederates won the Civil war. They actually refused the 10 seasons and demanded that the last season be shortened because they wanted to duck out early to work on Star Wars (that eventually fell apart and they had to leave the project). The confederate show (which also fell apart and got cancelled right after the lost their jobs to go start it.) was after their Star Wars deal blew up. They got the last laugh because Netflix gave them a $300 million contract to work exclusively for them for a few years.
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Ah, thanks for the clarification. I remember now that they were set to do SW then that fell apart on them LOL I have no doubt they have all the money in the world but along with that comes the reputation for dual-handedly ruining the biggest show in TV history. I'd much rather be a Vince Gilligan or David Chase than one of those guys. Not nearly as much money, but way more respect from fans.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They actually refused the 10 seasons and demanded that the last season be shortened because they wanted to duck out early to work on Star Wars (that eventually fell apart and they had to leave the project). The confederate show (which also fell apart and got cancelled right after the lost their jobs to go start it.) was after their Star Wars deal blew up. Don't remind me, they're adopting a super awesome sci fi series called the Three Body Problem. Must be nice to just fail upwards, and then when that doesn't work out, someone else gives you $300 million
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Away all Goats posted:Don't remind me, they're adopting a super awesome sci fi series called the Three Body Problem. Must be nice to just fail upwards, and then when that doesn't work out, someone else gives you $300 million I misremembered and it was actually "only" $200 million. They have to split it between two of them, part of it goes to their production company costs, and it is a 3-year deal. After taxes and spread out over 3 years, that is only about $25 million a year for each of them. They are practically being punished for blowing up the last season of Game of Thrones.
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Five episodes in. For the love of GOD just get to the loving point already.
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Technowrite posted:Five episodes in. For the love of GOD just get to the loving point already. You have so many Vecna monologues ahead of you, you don't even KNOW.
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Technowrite posted:Five episodes in. For the love of GOD just get to the loving point already. Listen to this to get hyped: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcdZLTn8LD4
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Technowrite posted:Five episodes in. For the love of GOD just get to the loving point already. Man how did people make it through the days when shows had 24 episodes a season...
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well usually those episodes would have a beginning, middle, and end, and would take a reliable amount of time.
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I AM GRANDO posted:I forget where I heard this, it might have been about that John Ritter sitcom he was making when he died or about Newsradio after Phil Hartman died or about Game of Thrones, but basically it was a producer saying that r feels really lovely to throw hundreds of people out of work because you feel the show is getting stale or that the story has a natural endpoint. You are creating something that feeds people’s kids and keeps a roof over their heads and you want to keep it going for that reason even if it is weak or tired. I don't know if this is something that any of those people said too, but that precise answer was what Vince Gilligan said when asked about the x files and why it stayed on so long and whether he should have set a final date for breaking bad. His more specific claim what that a tv show employs 180-200 people and when the show is over they are out of a job, and that for him it is easy to find a new one but for them this might be it, so that its hard to make 200 people lose their jobs because of the creator's artistic vision. Of course, I don't know how applicable this is to stranger things, given its erratic shooting schedule. Old school tv shows had fall to spring seasons and shot like 10 months out of the year, I don't know if stranger things has people permanently on staff like that.
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