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It’s like two supermodel parents having the worlds ugliest child I think that belt is adopted
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History Comes Inside! posted:It wouldn’t be so bad if the unified belt wasn’t the ugliest active belt in all of wrestling It was funny in the leadup to this year's Wrestle Kingdom showing the New Japan and NOAH top belts. The GHC Heavyweight TItle was a classic beauty, and the IWGP World Heavyweight Title was an overdesigned mess
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Jul 8, 2022 05:03
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Unperson_47 posted:This is cool, I've always wondered if there's ever been a champ who took no pride in the belt and treated it with their disdain publicly. not quite as bad, but there is the time that Tama Tonga chucked his newly-won ROH tag title in response to Enzo and Cass showing up without his knowledge, calling it "garbage" and a "piece of poo poo" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ6W1VyR6wc
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EdsTeioh posted:Bill Watts. This whole thing did lead to ONE really cool spot in a Rude/Steamboat match though. also, when they brought over Liger, I believe he ended up doing moonsaults off the middle rope, because gently caress it
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Barry Bluejeans posted:not quite as bad, but there is the time that Tama Tonga chucked his newly-won ROH tag title in response to Enzo and Cass showing up without his knowledge, calling it "garbage" and a "piece of poo poo" What'd he say about the belt, though?
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Unperson_47 posted:This is cool, I've always wondered if there's ever been a champ who took no pride in the belt and treated it with their disdain publicly. While it's clear on the surface that Naito hates the belt, he also cares for it a whole lot--he keeps on challenging for it! The finish to his WK13 match with Jericho heavily involved the belt as well.
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SG Bamboo posted:The story was that Naito hated the Intercontinental belt as it symbolised his failure to become a true main eventer as the Stardust Genius before he went to Mexico and reinvented himself (as well as Tanahashi, who was holding the belt when the main event of Wrestle Kingdom 8 was stolen from Naito). So when he actually won the belt he treated it with contempt, kicking it around as well as throwing it directly into the ring steps. Naito did the most damage to the belt since he literally broke the thing multiple times That angle is what made me a huge Naito mark.
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Jul 8, 2022 12:59
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bartok posted:That angle is what made me a huge Naito mark. I like to consider myself a small part of Naito's story since I was one of the 25000 people that voted for Tanahashi Vs Nakamura to main event over Naito Vs Okada. Because of course I did, Shinsuke Nakamura was the coolest motherfucker on Earth in 2013 and deserved all the main events
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Lily Catts posted:While it's clear on the surface that Naito hates the belt, he also cares for it a whole lot--he keeps on challenging for it! The finish to his WK13 match with Jericho heavily involved the belt as well. Part of his winning the Double Dash was that he had to win the IC title back, and even when he finally beat Okada for the big belt, he showed respect to the IC belt. Tetsuya Naito v the NJPW Intercontinental Title is the greatest love story of a generation.
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Venomous posted:also, when they brought over Liger, I believe he ended up doing moonsaults off the middle rope, because gently caress it Yeah that's correct. It was REALLY loving stupid to ban top rope moves and then bring in Liger to work with Pillman and also I think Muta was still there at the time. The Steamboat/Rude spot was this though, and I still think about it and think someone should use an updated version of it: They were doing an ironman match (I can't remember the exact show; may have just been on TV). Rude was down a fall or 2, so decided to hit a top rope knee drop, knowing that it would cause him to lose a fall by DQ. However, since they'd built up that top rope moves were so devastating, the logic was that he'd drop a fall to the dq, then get multiple pins in succession since Steamboat was so hurt from the top rope move. IIRC, Rude hit the knee, lost a fall, pinned Steamboat, then went for a quick re-pin but Steamboat kicked out of the subsequent one, so Rude's gamble kept the score where it was.
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Watts’ top rope ban was the stupidest thing in the world and pissed off eight year old me quite a lot. I don’t understand how he didn’t see that people were paying money to see their favorites jump off the ropes! He was never destined to hold that job for long.
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EdsTeioh posted:Yeah that's correct. It was REALLY loving stupid to ban top rope moves and then bring in Liger to work with Pillman and also I think Muta was still there at the time. HHH did a clever variation of this in his Iron Man with Rock: he clobbers Rock with a chair, loses a fall, but Rock is out of it so he pins him twice.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:HHH did a clever variation of this in his Iron Man with Rock: he clobbers Rock with a chair, loses a fall, but Rock is out of it so he pins him twice. Oh no poo poo? When was that?
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Deathlove posted:Part of his winning the Double Dash was that he had to win the IC title back, and even when he finally beat Okada for the big belt, he showed respect to the IC belt. Tetsuya Naito v the NJPW Intercontinental Title is the greatest love story of a generation. The Wrestle Kingdom the year before is the big payoff IMO. Naito uses the belt to beat Jericho for the title, finally shows it respect on his way out, and in his post-match says something about how no matter how badly he treated it, it always came back to him until he accepted it. There's also his challenge to Ibushi last year when Ibushi announced he was going to unite the titles: Naito asked for one more shot, but not at the Heavyweight title (Ibushi beat him fair and square and Naito didn't feel he deserved a rematch), at the IC title, because he wanted to be the one to hold it last. quote:Naito: It’s strange. I’ve always questioned the purpose of the IWGP Intercontinental Championship, but if you look back on my career, it’s been the belt I’ve been most connected to. I’ve never understood the significance of *it*, but *it’s* always had a significance for *me*.
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EdsTeioh posted:Oh no poo poo? When was that? Judgment Day 2000. It's not that he pinned him twice, it's that he got DQed for the chair shot but immediately got that fall back by pinning him, and now Rock's at a disadvantage for the remainder of the match because Hunter brained him with a chair. And, indeed, HHH wins the next fall after that with a sleeper because the Rock just hasn't recovered yet.
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AEW ran the same spot in the PAC/Omega Iron Man match.
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Integrated Houston posted:Watts’ top rope ban was the stupidest thing in the world and pissed off eight year old me quite a lot. I don’t understand how he didn’t see that people were paying money to see their favorites jump off the ropes! He was never destined to hold that job for long. I always remember hearing the intention was the ban wasn't a long-term thing, he was trying to get people out of the habit of doing it all the time. With the idea being that high spots stop being high spots if they are just routine. Which makes some degree of sense but the other thing is Watts seems to have entirely tuned out of wrestling after selling the UWF, so when he came back 5 years later to run WCW he just wasn't willing to accept it wasn't 1976 anymore. Definitely a man who, even without his pro-segregation comments, shouldn't have been in the job, wrestling had passed him by, Vince McMahon is out there telling everyone that wrestling is a work & Watt's still wants legit heel & face dressing rooms.
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The main memory that sticks out with the "no top rope" rule was watching a match where the heel tried to throw the face over the top rope and the face skinned the cat to get back in. Commentary pointed out that if he didn't pull himself back in, he would have won by DQ. The face went on to lose because of course he did.
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History Comes Inside! posted:AEW ran the same spot in the PAC/Omega Iron Man match. Well drat I was gonna say that AEW should jack that, but now I'm gonna have to go back and watch this match. Gavok posted:The main memory that sticks out with the "no top rope" rule was watching a match where the heel tried to throw the face over the top rope and the face skinned the cat to get back in. Commentary pointed out that if he didn't pull himself back in, he would have won by DQ. The face went on to lose because of course he did. No that's a different top rope rule. Throwing someone OVER the top rope was a rule in most wrestling going back to like the 50's. WWF I don't think ever did it, but I specifically remember at some point in Nitro the announcers stating that they were removing the over the top rope rule. Bill Watts banned people jumping OFF the top rope, so you couldn't do top rope splashes, moonsaults, dropkicks, etc. EdsTeioh fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Jul 8, 2022 |
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bartok posted:That angle is what made me a huge Naito mark. It also shows how great a booker Gedo can be when he's firing on all cylinders. He wanted to push Naito to the moon and make him a main eventer, the fans rejected it, so he and Naito course corrected and made him an even bigger star than he would've been had they just muscled through with the originally planned WK main event.
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forkboy84 posted:I always remember hearing the intention was the ban wasn't a long-term thing, he was trying to get people out of the habit of doing it all the time. With the idea being that high spots stop being high spots if they are just routine. Which makes some degree of sense but the other thing is Watts seems to have entirely tuned out of wrestling after selling the UWF, so when he came back 5 years later to run WCW he just wasn't willing to accept it wasn't 1976 anymore. Definitely a man who, even without his pro-segregation comments, shouldn't have been in the job, wrestling had passed him by, Vince McMahon is out there telling everyone that wrestling is a work & Watt's still wants legit heel & face dressing rooms. Everything about Watts' tenure does make sense... in the right and place and time. Giving Sting and Jake the Coal Miner's Glove match would have been super over in, say, Louisiana where Mid-South was located because everybody at least probably knew a coal miner and knew what a coal miner's glove was. In the wider WCW, who cares. Gavok posted:The main memory that sticks out with the "no top rope" rule was watching a match where the heel tried to throw the face over the top rope and the face skinned the cat to get back in. Commentary pointed out that if he didn't pull himself back in, he would have won by DQ. The face went on to lose because of course he did. That sounds like a Brad Armstrong match.
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what should i know about potentially bringing a sign to a wrestling show
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Captain Foo posted:what should i know about potentially bringing a sign to a wrestling show What is your strongest video game opinion?
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Maxwell Lord posted:What is your strongest video game opinion? Undertale has a better story than metal gear solid
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Maxwell Lord posted:What is your strongest video game opinion? i have never played a souls-series game
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but more seriously do you just walk into the arena with a posterboard or what
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Captain Foo posted:but more seriously do you just walk into the arena with a posterboard or what Yeah. That's literally all. You make a sign and then take the sign and hopefully is funny
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titties posted:Yeah. That's literally all. You make a sign and then take the sign and hopefully is funny it's gonna be a joke for 2 people probably, maybe 3
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Captain Foo posted:it's gonna be a joke for 2 people probably, maybe 3 That's more than most signs
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Captain Foo posted:what should i know about potentially bringing a sign to a wrestling show Draw your favorite wrestler as a South Park character.
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Or people peeing on a flag. Maybe on one of those blue lives matter flags
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When I was 12 or 13 my friend and I got tickets to a WCW house show. He brought a sign calling himself Medium Sexy and held it up for Nash while we both did a Too Sweet. I'll never be that cool again.
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Captain Foo posted:but more seriously do you just walk into the arena with a posterboard or what When I brought my video game opinion sign to the last local AEW taping security checked it to make sure it didn't say anything horrible and that was it.
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AlmightyPants posted:When I brought my video game opinion sign to the last local AEW taping security checked it to make sure it didn't say anything horrible and that was it. cool thanks
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Make the sign say Fart Owens Fart!
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You didn't think they brought those signs from home, did you? 
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A stunt granny...
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Shard posted:Or people peeing on a flag. Maybe on one of those blue lives matter flags With the Punisher logo of course
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