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aphid_licker posted:Someone in another thread posted Russian milbloggers complaining about himars doinking command posts etc real good and I wonder if that's really bad opsec, if they're attempting some reverse psychology, or if the success of those strikes is so obvious that you don't need to be opsec about it and can complain about them on telegram as much as you like I don't know why, but this reminds me of how the Canadians keep bombing American celebrities in the South Park movie.
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aphid_licker posted:Someone in another thread posted Russian milbloggers complaining about himars doinking command posts etc real good and I wonder if that's really bad opsec, if they're attempting some reverse psychology, or if the success of those strikes is so obvious that you don't need to be opsec about it and can complain about them on telegram as much as you like A lot of newly popular Russian milbloggers on telegram (retired officers, people from volunteer units and close to Wagner or just nobody experts riding hype) are not directly controlled and dont follow the approved playbook (unlike a lot of established accounts who operate under networks and have salaries) and some tend to be extremely emotional so they divest from party line. Some of them tend to believe themselves as part of a new civil society of true patriots which mostly means believing that loud whining would result in millitary taking significant steps to solve issues (yeah man nobody thought of searching and hitting HIMARSes before you wrote a freaking POST). Of course they forget that they are in Russia and so, serf should not give advice to the lord, so it is mostly theater for their thousands of followers. fatherboxx fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Jul 8, 2022 |
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M_Gargantua posted:Treetops are still good-ish against modern AAA, its just not a reliable defense. There is only so much advanced hardware can do about physics. An A-10 with a modern ECM pod at treetops? Good odds on the A-10 Strong disagree. Edit: I think there are some situations where A-10s would be useful and survivable for Ukraine in this war. Those situations are few and far between; as mentioned these jets require a bunch of logistics and training, and they're an extremely limited commodity. Any significant battle damage stands a good chance of being just as effective as a kill, given the lack of ability to easily ship it to depot to be rebuilt. Godholio fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Jul 8, 2022 |
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I'm starting to suspect that the Russian doctrine of 'treat minefields as if they don't exist' might not be sound https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1545351615703556096
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Treetop flying is neat and all, but it also means the pilot has really limited to zero SA on targets. It's hard to sling a Maverick from anything close to max range when you can barely see a mile down your nose due to terrain obstructions. This kinda works with a fast jet doing JDAM drops where you can actually go fast, loft them, and run the gently caress away (like a guided version of what we're seeing the VKS and UAF do with lobbed rockets). There was one video of a similarly high risk but at least apparently effective SU-24 pass dropping time delay ordnance along a Ukrainian fortification line from extremely low, but to do that you have to have a very good idea of where the enemy is and a rather quick aircraft like the SU-24 for it to be remotely survivable. And even then "remotely" is the operative term. The SU-25, post-improvements from Afghanistan, has been very impressive in taking a beating and getting its pilot back to base. Multiple examples between Georgia, Syria, and Ukraine of an engine getting absolutely shredded and the pilot coming home. Plane almost certainly is a write-off, but impressive none the less. Apparently they added a beefier armor separation panel between the engines after Afghanistan.
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Alchenar posted:I'm starting to suspect that the Russian doctrine of 'treat minefields as if they don't exist' might not be sound Realizing the minefield had a pre-set kill limit, I simply sent wave after wave of my own tanks at it until it reached the limit and shut down.
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How does self preservation not kick in there? Being fifth in line and then being first in line I would think a few seconds of situational analysis would occur, if even just because it took time for things to repeat down to your position.
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 This is a general warning, nothing in the embed image itself, but lots of switchblades making RF forces having a very bad day. You do see people highlighted and the switchblade diving, but I don’t think any gore, but obviously I wouldn’t want to spring that on anyone randomly. The craziest thing is how much like a video game it looks like. Like a drone perk in some BF or COD game. These things seem extremely easy to operate (with proper training of course) and work quite well. https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1545404160438329346?s=21&t=9TD4500H-Oj6Wh8t0dgSmA
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Alchenar posted:I'm starting to suspect that the Russian doctrine of 'treat minefields as if they don't exist' might not be sound That is soooo beyond stupid. 
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Marshal Prolapse posted:
Switchblades so far have not a very good reputation in UA forces, they prefer homemade grenade+drone combo. Main issue is that using those is very difficult and they are not very reliable for their cost and they have impact of a small grenade.
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Just Another Lurker posted:That is soooo beyond stupid. Engineers can only carry 3 mines so the odds were in their favor!
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bird food bathtub posted:How does self preservation not kick in there? Being fifth in line and then being first in line I would think a few seconds of situational analysis would occur, if even just because it took time for things to repeat down to your position. I have no idea how survivable anti-tank mines are for the crew, and I really wouldn't volunteer for testing it, but if Russian tankers know more than I do, this looks like one possible way to sabotage the war effort through malicious compliance and maybe sit out the next few weeks in a hospital.
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What's the crew survival rate on a pressure triggered AT mine? Gotta be better than a top attack PGM, right? Could this be a calculated tactic by those crews to get themselves out of combat? E;fb
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fatherboxx posted:Switchblades so far have not a very good reputation in UA forces, they prefer homemade grenade+drone combo. Main issue is that using those is very difficult and they are not very reliable for their cost and they have impact of a small grenade. My understanding is that some of this may be true, but there's also a degree of Russian propaganda going on since the weapon is very much seen as an icon of American influence. So just as they immediately wanted to push back on the effectiveness of the HIMARS, they also wanted to push back on the effectiveness of the Switchblade. One of the very real problems is that the Switchblade 600 is in extremely short supply because it hasn't entered into production yet and they're literally built by hand. There's a fair number of the Switchblade 300s around, but they lack the range or firepower for artillery duels. The current phase of the war doesn't feature a lot of nearby infantry or light vehicles for them to target.
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A.o.D. posted:What's the crew survival rate on a pressure triggered AT mine? Gotta be better than a top attack PGM, right? Could this be a calculated tactic by those crews to get themselves out of combat? Given the fact the turrets are all still attached, it looks like it's mostly mobility kills.
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Anecdotally, semiconductor manufacturing for military stuff tends to be the exact opposite of state-of-the-art in terms of both processes and density. I'm sure there's some  stuff out there, but there's also places running ancient poo poo like 'our cleaning step is a guy with a spray bottle of HF' on 10cm wafers. You don't necessarily want 5nm transistors in a missile either, you want something robust enough to survive acceleration and cheap enough to not care when it explodes. Semiconductor fabs also make a lot more than the CPUs people tend to think of when they read computer chips. Russia already has some native manufacturing of the kind of less profitable but ubiquitous bits that made the chip shortage so bad for the auto industry, etc. If they were to try crash development of their own semiconductor industry, I suspect they'd start by there by building a couple dozen separate industries just to provide sufficiently high quality feedstocks to run their existing lines
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Is an A-10 more survivable than what they’re currently using? If so, seems like a winner
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pygmy tyrant posted:Anecdotally, semiconductor manufacturing for military stuff tends to be the exact opposite of state-of-the-art in terms of both processes and density. I'm sure there's some From what I've read, this more or less tracks in that semiconductors for military stuff tend to be older, proven commodity CPUs, microcontrollers, etc... ...which are at the very heart of the current supply crunch. Especially since fabs are pressuring customers to update their designs to use chips built on more recent nodes so they can dump their old equipment and commit their floorspace to more recent (read: profitable) nodes. Anyways, Russia building microcontrollers & cpus domestically seems like a nonstarter for the time being. No equipment or consumables from western semiconductor manufacturing supply chain means they need to spin up alternate suppliers. I'd imagine the Kremlin is putting all their eggs into the "import substitution" basket for this one. My guess is they're scouring the world's secondhand market/junkyards for consumer products that contain the semiconductors they need.
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fatherboxx posted:Switchblades so far have not a very good reputation in UA forces, they prefer homemade grenade+drone combo. Main issue is that using those is very difficult and they are not very reliable for their cost and they have impact of a small grenade. Weren't they used with little issue by US grunts in Afghanistan?
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Trying to go Full Juche is technically possible I guess, and honestly probably the best option left when you refuse the "Stop being murderous invading assholes" one, but I don't see it working out well for like a solid decade under the best, most coordinated circumstances lacking corruption and bribery problems. You could probably build a semiconductor factory in a few years, but what about the factories that supply those factories and so on down that chain plus all the people that know how to run every step of the process?
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Isn't the only reason NK can go full juche because they have china and russia quietly propping them up?
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https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1545454489674678272?s=20&t=sjsj7eI-ZxKf6TzkOowoUw No freedom, no fries
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Hannibal Rex posted:https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1545454489674678272?s=20&t=sjsj7eI-ZxKf6TzkOowoUw The deep-fried turnips are delicious, though.
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Didn't they have a surplus of onions at the beginning of the war? So many that they left kitchen trucks full of them for Ukrainians to find after they ran out of fuel? Onion rings, bitches.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Didn't they have a surplus of onions at the beginning of the war? So many that they left kitchen trucks full of them for Ukrainians to find after they ran out of fuel? Have Russian not-McDonald's troll everyone who remembers these and wants them back: https://mcdonalds.fandom.com/wiki/Onion_Nuggets
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Have Russian not-McDonald's troll everyone who remembers these and wants them back: https://mcdonalds.fandom.com/wiki/Onion_Nuggets yo what the gently caress
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Never really thought about it until now but mcdonalds is one of the few places that doesn't have onion rings.
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It was a sad day when Burger King started making you specifically request the onion ring sauce.
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https://twitter.com/gerashchenko_en/status/1544694036216389632?s=21&t=c8IgUO1ugw77HuFqgFh2nA Same person from this video https://twitter.com/gerashchenko_en/status/1544694086229282818?s=21&t=lHmBeGoG6_QqoNWQp0n89Q
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psydude posted:It was a sad day when Burger King started making you specifically request the onion ring sauce. Bad news there, friendo - supposedly they've gotten rid of the "Zesty" sauce for good. Of course, maybe that's just down here in Freedomland.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Bad news there, friendo - supposedly they've gotten rid of the "Zesty" sauce for good. Cayenne pepper is considered spicy here, so I'm gonna assume it never caught on.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Bad news there, friendo - supposedly they've gotten rid of the "Zesty" sauce for good. Whoa. Dark times indeed. 30 years from now maybe Rick and Morty can get it to come back
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Bad news there, friendo - supposedly they've gotten rid of the "Zesty" sauce for good. Also, today I learned that Burger King is still operating in Russia, but apparently, they're giving all their profits to Ukrainian humanitarian aid organizations.
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Is this the first big conventional war where one side is operating mixed sex combat units? (not really counting Israel)
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Alchenar posted:Is this the first big conventional war where one side is operating mixed sex combat units? (not really counting Israel) Those foxholes ain't gonna repopulate themselves!
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GD_American posted:Is an A-10 more survivable than what they’re currently using? If so, seems like a winner Roughly on par, but without the ability to be repaired/replaced, and the further problem of having to teach the pilots to fly it, how to use the weapons because the ones they know aren't compatible, and the equivalent training for the ammo troops, and maintenance. And during that time, you're pulling all those people out of the war. BIG HEADLINE posted:Bad news there, friendo - supposedly they've gotten rid of the "Zesty" sauce for good. I had it this week.
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Alchenar posted:Is this the first big conventional war where one side is operating mixed sex combat units? (not really counting Israel) It was probably WW2, though I'd be curious as to the relative numbers. See: Aleksandra Samusenko (who was convinced to let Joseph Beyrle fight along side her u nit) It's hard for me to find from simple googles who else was in Maria Oktyabrskaya's tank crew, but I assume the crew of that tank was probably mixed and not all female. Manshuk Mametova dominates searches for the 100th Khazakh Rifle Brigade. Not sure what the prevalence was, but there was at least some.
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Probably a double post for a bunch of people who monitor several threads, but resposting my summary from yesterday's Senior Defense Official briefing.mlmp08 posted:Here's the tl;dr from the DOD today. SDO press briefing excerpts - full in link above posted:The United States first initiated a training program for Ukraine in 2015 -- yes, 2015 -- on helping Ukraine with its capacity to man, train, equip, deploy and sustain combat arms units. It is this background that's important for understanding how early in the war, Ukraine was able to face a larger, more capable Russian force, able to stay nimble, empower subordinates, achieve commendable successes, already be trained on certain capabilities that the United States as well as other countries had provided -- notably Javelins but not only Javelins -- and therefore, Russia was walking into a battle back in February with a far more capable military than it expected and that it -- it had frankly faced back in 2014.
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mlmp08 posted:Probably a double post for a bunch of people who monitor several threads, but resposting my summary from yesterday's Senior Defense Official briefing. Thanks for doing these!
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Godholio posted:And during that time, you're pulling all those people out of the war. I would say Ukraine has passed the point of this war being an immediate existential battle for national survival. Unless they just plan on running their pre war pilot cadre into the ground until they are all dead you will eventually have to pull them off the "front lines" to train new pilots and/or retrain on new aircraft. They also can't exactly replace their SU-25 losses either. I don't think the A-10 is the aircraft that the UAF should prioritize adding to their fleet, but they will, at some point have to transition away from ex-soviet aircraft.
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