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Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Yeast posted:

Army painter make excellent washes.

Paints? Eh.

But washes, yeah they're good at that.

The few army painter paints I have went from compete loving garbage I can't believe anyone uses this poo poo, to actually pretty good after getting a mixer.

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Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Eediot Jedi posted:

The few army painter paints I have went from compete loving garbage I can't believe anyone uses this poo poo, to actually pretty good after getting a mixer.

Yes, their paints range from trash to mediocre to decent with very inconsistent quality from batch to batch, but their washes are consistently great

VVV: I really hope so, I just bought their big set in a vain hope of painting my boardgame poo poo.

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Jul 10, 2022

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Their speed paints are excellent too, except for reactivating in water/wet paint on top to some degree. I’ve been testing a few colors and they disperse the pigment much more evenly and without tide marks compared to contrast paints used in GWs advertised method

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

My Spirit Otter posted:

Be careful with the cheap spray paints. Always spray one model first. I did not heed that advice and sprayed a squad of second hand chaos space marines with some beautone paint and it took way too many coats anf i lost some detail
Trip report:


Also I went shopping today, check out my new paints! :v:

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
since 2013 I've wanted this model and I finally got around to painting one. taking one model off my pile of shame at a time.



Bored Online
May 25, 2009

We don't need Rome telling us what to do.

Spanish Manlove posted:

since 2013 I've wanted this model and I finally got around to painting one. taking one model off my pile of shame at a time.





I really like how the hide turned out. This is awesome.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

Spanish Manlove posted:

since 2013 I've wanted this model and I finally got around to painting one. taking one model off my pile of shame at a time.






Bored Online posted:

I really like how the hide turned out. This is awesome.

:same: It's all great, but that pelt is outstanding.

wins32767
Mar 16, 2007

Spanish Manlove posted:

since 2013 I've wanted this model and I finally got around to painting one. taking one model off my pile of shame at a time.





How did you do the pelt? It looks much better than my space wolf pelts.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

wins32767 posted:

How did you do the pelt? It looks much better than my space wolf pelts.

Makeup brushes and drybrushing.

Base a tan color then drybrush the gradient. I look at pictures of timber wolves and try to emulate the colorings, with darker parts on the dorsal bits and lighter parts on the ventral bits. On this pelt the darker paint didn't penetrate through the fine cast fur so I had to use some brown contrast (skeleton horde) to darken some parts once I finished.

Also I bought some of those fancy drybrushes and they suck rear end compared to my cheap makeup brushes.




GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Spanish Manlove posted:

Also I bought some of those fancy drybrushes and they suck rear end compared to my cheap makeup brushes.

which ones?

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Some AP ones

Gunder
May 22, 2003

I saw a review of the AP ones. They certainly didn’t like them anymore than you do. I think the good, but expensive, ones are the Artis Opus D series.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
The bristles are too floppy and fell out almost immediately

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

the AP paints came with a free "monster brush" and I hate it and never use it

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
It lost the point in almost an instant once it got wet. I now use it for snow

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Crossposting. I at least want to show off these guys today. Having a whole army painted up was one of the things I thought was so cool but never thought I could do. So it's so cool to me to see them like this

Spanish Manlove posted:

A friend of mine is a photographer and we did a little photo shoot with the stuff I've painted. Here's some space wolves









Group Photo

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Those are sick, congrats!

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

I painted some warcry orcs over the last few weeks! Unfortunately, I really dislike them and they're destined for a bath.

Then I painted this guy in like an hour and quite like him lol


Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
I just finished up some Ratkin for kings of war and I'm dead proud of them on their custom bases.




Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Well this got out of hand quickly, I'm now baking sand because I'm too cheap to buy a tub from Army Painter.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Full album finally if anyone wants to see them all

https://imgur.com/a/qPgAmVP

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

I finished another Heavy Intercessor late last night!

This one hails from Alan Bligh's homebrew Blood Angels successor chapter The Charnel Guard:

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Hell yeah. Love each one of your dudes. What camera do you use for pictures?

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Thanks and right back at ya! I just use my ol' Samsung Galaxy 10 and take a lot of pictures and then image stack to remove any depth of field blurriness.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

AndyElusive posted:

Thanks and right back at ya! I just use my ol' Samsung Galaxy 10 and take a lot of pictures and then image stack to remove any depth of field blurriness.

Awe, thank you. I gotta try that method. Any tips on a resource to check out to learn how to use it effectively?

BaronVanAwesome
Sep 11, 2001

I will never learn the secrets of "Increased fake female boar sp..."

Never say never, buddy.
Now you know.
Now we all know.

AndyElusive posted:

Thanks and right back at ya! I just use my ol' Samsung Galaxy 10 and take a lot of pictures and then image stack to remove any depth of field blurriness.

I'd also love to learn about this process - I have a samsung phone also but no idea what software to use or how!

Ghosts!
Jan 6, 2004
What do you use to seal your weathering pigments? I've been meaning to try some out, but usually I use matte varnish to seal things when I'm done and that seems like it would cover up the dusty effect.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

I'm on my phone at the moment but if you guys Google for tutorials on Focus Stacking for macro photography there's a bunch of videos and how tos that will help.

It boils down to taking a lot of pictures of your model with various focal points so that you can load them all as an image stack of layers in something like Photoshop. Then have PS combine all the layers together and it'll select the sharpest focal points from each image and essentially mask out the blurry and out of focus areas. This ends up blending the image into one fully focused picture of your mini made up of all your images that you can merge into one image and then color correct as needed before you export it into a JPG or whatever.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
You will, of course, need a tripod or something that will hold your camera/phone steady for focus stacking to work.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Ghosts! posted:

What do you use to seal your weathering pigments? I've been meaning to try some out, but usually I use matte varnish to seal things when I'm done and that seems like it would cover up the dusty effect.

Everything I've tried to use to seal pigments (and full disclosure, I've not tried any specialist products, mainly stuff I've already got to hand, so varnishes really) has more or less eradicated the dusty effect, yes. In one case it turned it into a kind of muddy effect I didnt hate, but usually just made it disappear or become way way way more toned down. So now I simply dont seal them. I only put them on the base and the bottom third or so of the figure anyway, those parts arent going to get handled much under normal circumstances.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 16 days!

SiKboy posted:

Everything I've tried to use to seal pigments (and full disclosure, I've not tried any specialist products, mainly stuff I've already got to hand, so varnishes really) has more or less eradicated the dusty effect, yes. In one case it turned it into a kind of muddy effect I didnt hate, but usually just made it disappear or become way way way more toned down. So now I simply dont seal them. I only put them on the base and the bottom third or so of the figure anyway, those parts arent going to get handled much under normal circumstances.

If I get a chance, I'll get some pics of some 30k-era Iron Warriors I painted up recently, that I'd used some pigment powders (from ground-up soft pastel sticks) on. I sealed the pigments down with some very light passes with a matte varnish spray. When I say light, I mean barely flicking over the mini on the first couple of passes. After doing that a few times and letting it dry just to be sure, I then sprayed varnish over the minis like I normally would and the pigments stayed fixed in place.

One thing I did read when looking up how to use the pigments, is that you want to go a shade or two lighter when applying them than you might have originally planned to. This is because no matter what method you use to fix them in place, when you apply a final varnish coat, it's going to end up darkening the pigments down regardless (obviously you can skip this bit of advice if you're doing a display piece that won't be handled and so doesn't need to be sealed, instead of a gaming model).

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

AndyElusive posted:

I'm on my phone at the moment but if you guys Google for tutorials on Focus Stacking for macro photography there's a bunch of videos and how tos that will help.

It boils down to taking a lot of pictures of your model with various focal points so that you can load them all as an image stack of layers in something like Photoshop. Then have PS combine all the layers together and it'll select the sharpest focal points from each image and essentially mask out the blurry and out of focus areas. This ends up blending the image into one fully focused picture of your mini made up of all your images that you can merge into one image and then color correct as needed before you export it into a JPG or whatever.

Thanks dude, that's just enough information to get me started on searching it up on my own. Awesome.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Focus stacking is what I tried for one of my first minis I ever painted

Ghosts!
Jan 6, 2004
Thanks for weathering powder tips. I'll probably mess around with with both lightly applying some varnish and seeing if I can live with them being unsealed. I really like the way they look when applied. My test models will be Orks, so even if it ends up a bit muddy they will still look fine.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Did some painting over the last couple of weeks.

Stormsires Cursebreakers for Warhammer Underworlds. This is what I mean by not worrying too much about sealing weathering powders; The powder is over the top of the base and up to maybe the top of the figures knees, in normal gameplay that'll basically never be touched again. Instead these figures will probably be touched by their wand/staff/mace dealies which have broken before and I guarantee will break again.


Some Malifaux stuff, odds and sods filling out crews I already have the backbone of.

Izamu the Armour (2e), basically a suit of armour possessed by the spirit of a long dead samurai. Fun to paint, but an absolute bastard to get a good angle to photograph him from because of the angle of the weapon he has held out in front of him stealing focus and/or blocking most of his face depending on the angle. My solution to this was to give up and take a picture from a terrible angle. No regrets.


Arcane Effigy (1e). I was going to do some OSL from the candles but... I'm doing him on a desert base scheme to match my other Effigies, doing OSL when the figure would be in sunlight felt weird so I didnt. As a happy coincidence, not doing it turned out much easier than doing it would have been.


A Necropunk (1e). He was fun. Hes joining one of the first Malifaux crews I painted so I had to try and work out what the hell shade of green I'd done their lab bases so he matched. I have a rule that I always write down my basing scheme colours, but unfortunately I didnt institute that rule until a while after the Leviticus crew.


And a pair of Gatling Gunners which... I'll level with you, I hate the muzzle flash on that one figure. I'm absolutely fine with magical flames and whatnot, but for some reason the muzzle flash being modelled irrationally irritates me and I have no idea why. These were mainly speed paints and metallics.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
One thing you have to consider is that pigment powder looks dusty is because it's producing an uneven surface on your model and is effectively the same thing as dust. Sealing it in with varnish means you're just deleting the effect of physical particles sitting on top of your paint (ie pigment powder darkens when you seal it because light is no longer bouncing off the tiny surfaces of the powder particles). If you're using pigment powder as a sort of dusty stain I'd recommend matte varnishing first then putting the powder on because then the powder particles will get stuck in the uneven matte surface and more or less stay there until the end of time. If you're using enough powder that it can be brushed off by touching it then the only way you're gonna keep that effect is if you don't put anything on top.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

Which cheap ones did you get? I tried getting a pack on Amazon but the bristles are too... I dunno, plasticy? Paint barely stays in the bristles so they barely work as drybrushes.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Count Thrashula posted:

Which cheap ones did you get? I tried getting a pack on Amazon but the bristles are too... I dunno, plasticy? Paint barely stays in the bristles so they barely work as drybrushes.

These work really well for me but I wish I could just buy 20x of a single size as about half of the brushes are useless

https://www.amazon.com/NEJLSD-Eyeliner-Eyeshadow-Blending-Foundation/dp/B07FFMGYFY/

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case














Hydra dominatus, motherfuckers

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Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Oooh yeah, love that teal/green. What paint did you use over metallic for that?

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