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Smeef posted:How did HK gently caress up so bad that it went from being the epicenter of Asian film, music, entertainment, etc., to basically nothing in about 10-20 years? I can imagine scenarios where HK is today what South Korea is, or at least somewhat still in the conversation. Seems like the CCP did it
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Smeef posted:How did HK gently caress up so bad that it went from being the epicenter of Asian film, music, entertainment, etc., to basically nothing in about 10-20 years? I can imagine scenarios where HK is today what South Korea is, or at least somewhat still in the conversation. The PRC controls it. Same reason China is the biggest country on Earth and has basically zero cultural exports. It's not coincidental that the only real period of notable art in the PRC's history was the 80s. The government eased off people after Mao and culture flourished. Then the boot came back in 89 and it went away again. Similar thing occurred in the Soviet Union during the Khrushchev Thaw.
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Jul 10, 2022 06:14
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There’s decent cultural exports from China. I know the store I work at has sold a lot of copies of Heaven’s Official Blessing by Mo Xiang Tong Xiu
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Smeef posted:How did HK gently caress up so bad that it went from being the epicenter of Asian film, music, entertainment, etc., to basically nothing in about 10-20 years? I can imagine scenarios where HK is today what South Korea is, or at least somewhat still in the conversation. As their neighbors developed, there was more competition. I remember watching japanese drama's in the late 90's and then boom korean invasion happened. Yes it was planned by korea giving out free copies of the dramas to their neighbors etc. I remember again in one of these threads that the basical difference between ether a korea/japanese drama and american absurd comedy is basically the music. But another point is that you have the chinese censors that basically dont want to feel any emotion. I m sure other goons can list all the weird rules but for example you cant have ghosts, you cant have time travel, and NO GAINT ALIEN ROBOTS THAT CHANGE SHAPE. This dudes youtube channel does fun summaries of a bunch of movies and he does alot of asian films his take on "you are not alone" was fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrtAQLB8fpc Also spoke with an old taiwanese friend today, She said inflation and energy costs giving people the squeeze.
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Jul 10, 2022 06:22
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Vegetable posted:The answer is China This is all said while HK movies like "Dream Home," which feature a pregnant woman's stomach getting stomped to jelly are still showing on streaming services abroad, lol.
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Jul 10, 2022 06:27
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Blistex posted:Is that the one where the guy with the donkey dick is given some sort of toxic Spanish Fly and cums a geyser of blood? You might be onto something!
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Grand Fromage posted:The PRC controls it. Same reason China is the biggest country on Earth and has basically zero cultural exports. That said, it is true that for a country of their size this footprint is remarkably underwhelming. Pop music from China is a hot pile of garbage and has next to no cultural impact in the broader Mandarin-speaking world. The judging panel of their music competitions always include some laughable local “legend” alongside actual titans of industry from Taiwan. It’s funny. Their mainstream movies are unwatchable, but the same applies to Hong Kong and Taiwan. Their arthouse films are superior though. Jia Zhangke’s Mountains May Depart has my favorite use of the Pet Shop Boys song “Go West” and Behemoth was a literally hellish documentary of coal mining in Inner Mongolia. Extremely pro watches.
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Jul 10, 2022 09:20
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 is a cultural export of the gbs china thread
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I don't know about you, but I could really go for another Three Kingdoms or Journey to the West adaptation!
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Vegetable posted:
There was definitely a shift in the early 2000s when way more great films were coming out of the mainland than HK, but I can’t imagine a lot of it — stuff like A Touch of Sin — getting made anymore.
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Jul 10, 2022 11:54
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Blistex posted:Hong Kong cinema was so crazy/funny/awesome. Chinese Ghost Story is still great! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0dpajscuPo
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There's at least some millions of kids for whom Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf will be their Tom and Jerry cultural reference equivalent It is painfully bland though, even for basically Peppa-Pigesque fare
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Smeef posted:There was definitely a shift in the early 2000s when way more great films were coming out of the mainland than HK, but I can’t imagine a lot of it — stuff like A Touch of Sin — getting made anymore. Yeah the early/mid 2000s was not 80s level, but things loosened up a bit until 2008, and then full force boot when Xi came along.
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Stink Billyums posted:I don't know about you, but I could really go for another Three Kingdoms or Journey to the West adaptation!  
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Stink Billyums posted:I don't know about you, but I could really go for another Three Kingdoms or Journey to the West adaptation! I prefer the one where the baddie is a lady with extra long white hair, and she battles the hero warrior monk over a bunch of craggy rocky islands in a storm for the films big climax.
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Stink Billyums posted:I don't know about you, but I could really go for another Three Kingdoms or Journey to the West adaptation! Nah it's time for another WW2 period peice where the KMT are always jussst out of shot, honest.
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Chinese Ghost Story is still great! It's an amazing movie and also has a fantastic score by the late James Wong. DAO DAO DAO!!! The best part was Hong Kong wasn’t even just the big budget movies, it was often small ones featuring a triad played by Shing Fui On. I could probably go on forever about Hong Kong cinema.  Edit: has anyone heard anything new about North Korea‘s Covid pandemic? Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1546111050080206850
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Before getting into details, let it be known that the thing we are reporting on is real
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I get what they’re going for but oof, “Chinese people are not sophisticated in general”
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thetoughestbean posted:I get what they’re going for but oof, “Chinese people are not sophisticated in general” Imagine what they'd be saying if other media posted that. Lol.
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Jul 11, 2022 04:47
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The chinese people should apologise for hurting the feelings of China.
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Grand Fromage posted:Imagine what they'd be saying if other media posted that. Lol. It’s amazing when the official government policy is say as often as possible that it's people are stupid. Also Jesus Christ they absolutely would lose their poo poo if anyone else said that.
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Jul 11, 2022 04:50
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It's ok when the CCP say it to justify one-party rule or ugly nationalistic outbursts.
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thetoughestbean posted:I get what they’re going for but oof, “Chinese people are not sophisticated in general” New thread title.
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Smeef posted:How did HK gently caress up so bad that it went from being the epicenter of Asian film, music, entertainment, etc., to basically nothing in about 10-20 years? I can imagine scenarios where HK is today what South Korea is, or at least somewhat still in the conversation. hello，have you introduce country of CHINA？together let's have a look
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Grand Fromage posted:Imagine what they'd be saying if other media posted that. Lol. China state-affiliated media with Chinese characteristics
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my head canon is that everyone celebrating abes death is in a roundabout way wishing for xi next
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so uh, bank runs now or ponzi schemes crumbling depending on who you ask
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bad_fmr posted:New thread title. Please make this happen!
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url posted:Please make this happen! Booty Pageant posted:my head canon is that everyone celebrating abes death is in a roundabout way wishing for xi next There wasn't much 'roundabout' to it, Friday saw heavy weibo mention of the mando-pop song "shame its not you / "可惜不是你“ following Abe Shinzo's death referring to Xi.
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Booty Pageant posted:my head canon is that everyone celebrating abes death is in a roundabout way wishing for xi next idk, i wouldn't read into it too much. asians celebrating shinzo abe's death is pretty justified and understandable at face value
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bad_fmr posted:New thread title. Oh god, how many reports would that title generate from the bootlicking brigade?
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But Abe was retired. Its like asking for Jiang Zemin to be killed.
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Ups_rail posted:But Abe was retired. when thatcher died people were happy. when kissinger finally dies people will be very happy. how is this any different? also it's not like he completely retired from political life, he just wasn't PM anymore. he was literally shot while campaigning
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a7m2 posted:when thatcher died people were happy. when kissinger finally dies people will be very happy. how is this any different? Wasn't he helping someone else campaign, and not actually doing it as a politician? That seems to be a little bit different than trying to regain a seat actively.
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Kchama posted:Wasn't he helping someone else campaign, and not actually doing it as a politician? That seems to be a little bit different than trying to regain a seat actively. Yes. Like i said he's still politically active. Anyway even if he was fully retired, people would still have been fully justified in being happy. It'd be like if Europeans celebrated the death of a retired far-right nationalist German politician who denied the holocaust/Nazi war crimes, tried to re-militarize Germany, and also happened to be the grandson of a high ranking Nazi. Not surprising and completely justified. a7m2 fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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a7m2 posted:. when kissinger finally dies people will be very happy. how is this any different? *if
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I'm sure one day he'll accidentally be exposed to sunlight or get staked through the heart but yes it might take a while
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Kchama posted:Wasn't he helping someone else campaign, and not actually doing it as a politician? Well sure except that is literally a thing that is logically impossible? e: Do you think politician only means someone who is drawing a monthly salary out of a political job? Because if you do, you're alone in that.
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