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Cheery story that, he finds out a division of his company is experimenting on homeless people because he's been so hands off focused on his I AM THE NIGHT shtick. Those responsible set him up as a patsy and he's taken out of commission in an assassination attempt, so he has to use the tech on a former employee to unravel it all. Ends up getting them and the bad guy killed, then Gordon - in full 'I don't know but I do know really' mode - chews him out for it.
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Sentinel Red posted:Cheery story that, he finds out a division of his company is experimenting on homeless people because he's been so hands off focused on his I AM THE NIGHT shtick. Those responsible set him up as a patsy and he's taken out of commission in an assassination attempt, so he has to use the tech on a former employee to unravel it all. Ends up getting them and the bad guy killed, then Gordon - in full 'I don't know but I do know really' mode - chews him out for it. There is a moment is the story after Bruce is nearly killed and Bruce is in the hospital now paralyzed after surgery that Gordon shuts off the batsignal and says Batman isn't coming. It is a pretty definitive moment showing that Gordon now knows in all certainity Bruce is Batman. The story ends with a paralyzed Bruce wayne having just been told by Gordon that Batman needs to stay gone contemplating what he will do with his life. I don't think the story is in continunity. Both batman books are weird at this point in history. Gordon knows Bruce is Batman is all but says so, Barbara has been paralyzed by the joker, and Gordon knows something bad happened to robin/Jason. Gordon constantly asks Batman "where is robin?" and Bruce ignores him or just ghosts. Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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I think it is in continuity though as it's Ducard's first appearance and goes into how he trained Bruce as a detective before their falling out. But yeah, Bruce is crippled, recovers only to have it happen all over again a year or two later in Knightfall. Talk about careless, tsk.
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Siegkrow posted:They really think a billionaire is a friggin communist spy? Imagine what they'd do now with Wayne Enterprises giving out free scholarships to employees.
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Sentinel Red posted:I think it is in continuity though as it's Ducard's first appearance and goes into how he trained Bruce as a detective before their falling out. Wasn't the badguy in that also someone who looked a lot like Bane. Bonesmasher or something. I think the issue was written by one of the writers of the 1989 Batman movie too.
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The Question IRL posted:Wasn't the badguy in that also someone who looked a lot like Bane. Yes.
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Jul 12, 2022 01:23
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Okay so apparently a comic from last year, Damian reads shojo manga, saying “it’s something he didn’t get from either of his parents”, however, Batman was famously able to tell a person was actually the Martian Manhunter in disguise because he had the same last name as Sailor Mars from Sailor Moon. Where’s the comic where the two bond when they both discover the other likes shojo
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thetoughestbean posted:Batman was famously able to tell a person was actually the Martian Manhunter in disguise because he had the same last name as Sailor Mars J'onn quietly hoping no one connects the dots between his little homage and Sailor Mars's flame powers.
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thetoughestbean posted:Okay so apparently a comic from last year, Damian reads shojo manga, saying “it’s something he didn’t get from either of his parents”, however, Batman was famously able to tell a person was actually the Martian Manhunter in disguise because he had the same last name as Sailor Mars from Sailor Moon. that sounds like a future issue of Wayne family adventures
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Speaking of Wayne family adventures, the recent Jason 2 parter was really good.
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Chip Zdarsky is writing Batman now and has a podcast about experiencing manga for the first time so expect the scene soon
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Batfam who'd read shoujo manga: Damien - yes and canon Dick - only if recommended Jason - tells everyone no, but secretly thinks it's okay Tim - everyone assumes he does, but he doesn't Babs - maybe, but preferred something denser Steph - doesn't care for it but will enjoy it for other people Cass - yes Duke - no Bruce - only for academic purposes
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Xelkelvos posted:Batfam who'd read shoujo manga: Bruce doesn't read shoujo but commits TvTropes pages to memory, just in case the Riddler decides to commit some anime crimes someday.
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Jul 12, 2022 17:52
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You know Bruce only refers to series by the original Japanese name.
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Thranguy posted:Bruce doesn't read shoujo but commits TvTropes pages to memory, just in case the Riddler decides to commit some anime crimes someday. TvTropes was established in 2004. So going by a compressed timescale we are at the stage now where a pre-Batman Bruce Wayne would have had to search the world for InuYashaGoku420 and get him to teach Bruce how to be a master of Anime in a span of two weeks, just in case it might come up during his war on crime.
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Thranguy posted:Bruce doesn't read shoujo but commits TvTropes pages to memory, just in case the Riddler decides to commit some anime crimes someday. Also because of that otaku Toyman. (Last seen in Deathstroke, Inc.)
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Lord_Hambrose posted:You know Bruce only refers to series by the original Japanese name. Batman refers to it by their Japanese name, but knows every localized version of the title
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The Question IRL posted:TvTropes was established in 2004. Bruce in his anime year, journeying around the Western world to conventions until he's defeated everyone at the trivia contest panel
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Okay yo look...I'm no Tom King so what do I know, really? But the idea that Superman is not only able but also constantly hearing the cries of suffering from other planets, literal light-years away, is a bit hmmm uhh much.
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BrianWilly posted:Okay yo look...I'm no Tom King so what do I know, really? Be thankful for this.
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Jul 13, 2022 09:05
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Mr. Unknown (Batman Japan) operated out of a manga shop.
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BrianWilly posted:Okay yo look...I'm no Tom King so what do I know, really? But the idea that Superman is not only able but also constantly hearing the cries of suffering from other planets, literal light-years away, is a bit hmmm uhh much. a lot more things make sense if you just assume that in comic books like in dungeons and dragons, aether theory is actually correct
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The contrast between that Superman story and that Aquaman story is so stark. The first one is just utterly depressing while the other is almost sweet
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I had this thought over in the Art thread, but I figured here was better. Back in the 90's these costumes were awesome. I loved them. I loved Azrael. He was cool.   What I never thought was cool was this guy, Jean-Paul Valley. I don't know why but outside the costume he was just.. nothing. I hated it in a book when we had to deal with Jean-Paul and not Azrael.  Was that intentional? Was he supposed to be a lump of nothing outside the costume? Is JP better now? I see there's an Azrael limited series coming up, but I don't want to read it and get bogged down with this Jon Arbuckle dude half the time.
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Joe Fisto posted:Was that intentional? Was he supposed to be a lump of nothing outside the costume? Is JP better now? I see there's an Azrael limited series coming up, but I don't want to read it and get bogged down with this Jon Arbuckle dude half the time. In the original Sword of Azrael there's a moment where Alfred reflects on how JP changes into a completely different person when he puts on the costume, so I assume it's intentional to a degree. I will admit, I'm not too familiar with him in the current continuity so I have no idea how he's been portrayed over it.
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catlord posted:In the original Sword of Azrael there's a moment where Alfred reflects on how JP changes into a completely different person when he puts on the costume, so I assume it's intentional to a degree. I will admit, I'm not too familiar with him in the current continuity so I have no idea how he's been portrayed over it. It’s been so long since I read that I’d forgotten.
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When Jean Paul was Batman he had short hair, and looked like more of a hard rear end.
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I don't know why but a character design with round glasses that are completely white/opaque is like, The Most 90s Character Design to me, even more than the biggest shoulderpads and the most pouches you can think of
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I want to say there was some story recently that sorta touched on Valley's own insecurities with and without the costume and how he's nothing without it. I forget if it was in or out of canon though.
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I much prefer this jRPG reject Jean Paul than his look as batman (A Guile Cut)
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If I remember the original story introducing Azrael, Jean-Paul was pretty explicitly just some vaguely nebbish university student who gets kidnapped by cultists who casually drop that his freshly-dead dad was a secret assassin who's stuffed his head full of murder moves and brainwashing. And later on the end of Knightfall comes not by Batman physically beating Jean-Paul up but just by getting him to take his bathelmet off, which helps him escape from the giant pile of insane mental programming he's got influencing him, so I'd personally say that the root concept of 'this is literally just Some Boring Guy who's been hosed with and gets subverted by awful brain problems if he wears helmets' was always there.
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Drakyn posted:'this is literally just Some Boring Guy who's been hosed with and gets subverted by awful brain problems if he wears helmets' if I had a nickel...
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Bring back azreal and orpheus.. Get rid of Bruce wayne
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So the Artemis one shot explains her motive in killing Hippolyta and it's dumb. It was to get Hippolyta to ascend into godhood so she could work that side to protect the Amazons for a greater threat. But she had to bind Artemis to secrecy until things settled down or else the plan wouldn't work. Meanwhile in Catwoman, we see the other side of some stuff from Catwoman's perspective and while I guess it's the readers' fault for assuming she might've slept with someone on their her break with Bruce (like I did), it feels kinda like a cheap jab meant to deliberately stir up bullshit. Also she seems to be falling into some of the same emotional pitfall beats Batman has previously tread upon about not trusting other people to help her do the things she thinks are necessary to solve the problem. The Young Justice Dark Crisis thing is definitely a bit of a love letter/commentary on the original series which I don't really have strong opinions on. The Flash one is similar in its own way as a love letter to the Flash family, but also includes a Fury Road pastiche. The Black Adam book seems weird and dumb atm since it reads like a passing of the torch book, but since he's getting a movie soon, he won't get axed or replaced and whoever the new person is, who's probably gonna be his sidekick feels a lot like the new Dr. Fate in that they're both med school students of Middle Eastern descent and have a family relation to the hero they're connected to.
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Just to be clear, both Dark Crisis YJ issues definitely read far less like "love letters" and more like they were written by someone who hates Young Justice and every character in it lol  Like I've completely flip-flopped on picking up Fitzmartin's upcoming Tim Drake series because of this book.
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Yeah that Young Justice book definitely reads like the writer hates the old Young Justice and they hate the new Young Justice and that they really, really hate Cassie
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BrianWilly posted:Just to be clear, both Dark Crisis YJ issues definitely read far less like "love letters" and more like they were written by someone who hates Young Justice and every character in it lol As someone who is completely unfamiliar with the original, I wasn't sure.
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I really enjoyed the Dark Crisis: Superman book. Superman’s paradise is seeing his son grow up without a time skip. I like that the universe seems harsher than the one he came from, but it’s in the service of making Jon grow into a Superman with a sweet superbike. The Aquaman backup was your typical paradise dimension thing, and the (Future State?) Flash was the main character for some reason.
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah that Young Justice book definitely reads like the writer hates the old Young Justice and they hate the new Young Justice and that they really, really hate Cassie
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