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Dr. Faustus posted:Steve Bannon is like a Nazi Grima Wormtongue. Whoah whoah hey now. Brad Dourif isn’t a conventionally attractive man, but we don’t have to be lovely. He’s kind of handsome in a haunted Lance Henrikson action figure kind of way.
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Dr. Faustus posted:Steve Bannon is like a Nazi Grima Wormtongue. Steve Bannon is Snoke from the Star Wars sequel trilogy. A meth-faced man who built a fake empire off the backs of a bunch of young angry nerds who he molded into Nazis and was then blindsided by the very monster he raised and abused. Now he mainly exists in a pickle jar, a convenient meat puppet for even eviler bastards to occasionally trot out to gently caress with people with.
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So what are the odds we hear them all whine about the  perjury trap the committee will have allegedly backed them into?
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snorch posted:So what are the odds we hear them trot out them all whine about the Tomorrow's contempt hearing is going to go poorly for Bannon. He's not going to testify before J6, and he has nothing to add that they don't already have corroboration for.
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Jul 10, 2022 23:21
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mdemone posted:Tomorrow's contempt hearing is going to go poorly for Bannon. He's not going to testify before J6, and he has nothing to add that they don't already have corroboration for. Oh, he has stuff to add. I expect some of this planning and intent goes back to before even 2016. He’s just not going to. This is all about delay for him as he expects to eventually win so even when he appears to be honestly answering questions to save his own skin he will be inserting BS to waste time and resources.
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Jul 10, 2022 23:46
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Murgos posted:Oh, he has stuff to add. I expect some of this planning and intent goes back to before even 2016. He’s just not going to. This is all about delay for him as he expects to eventually win so even when he appears to be honestly answering questions to save his own skin he will be inserting BS to waste time and resources. He expects to be pardoned after the next election. He knows he can't win a real trial.
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Jul 11, 2022 00:01
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Judge Schnoopy posted:He expects to be pardoned after the next election. He knows he can't win a real trial. Yes, that’s what I meant. Not that he has a legal basis, just that he expects the end of the United States as he’s been working for.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Whoah whoah hey now. Me, reporting you for lies: 
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Jul 11, 2022 01:29
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Pissed Ape Sexist posted:Me, reporting you for lies: I wouldn’t call that conventionally attractive, even if he makes it work.
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Jul 11, 2022 02:28
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BiggerBoat posted:getting one or two of them up there Benghazi hearings style and grilling them for 8 to 10 hours does have a certain appeal to it.
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Jul 11, 2022 02:37
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Glenn Kirschner addressed this Bannon issue today. He's painfully uncool but I suspect he is right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFLFicWRBs8&t=238s Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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Jul 11, 2022 02:45
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Bannon has already talked to Trump and told him exactly what he is going to say/lie about. He convinced Trump and such. They would be a fool to do anything with him unless it's to get for perjury.
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Jul 11, 2022 03:22
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Madkal posted:Bannon has already talked to Trump and told him exactly what he is going to say/lie about. He convinced Trump and such. They would be a fool to do anything with him unless it's to get for perjury. This is actually fine as long as the committee follows it's process with 'as long as it takes' recorded depositions under oath by trained and experienced attorneys. It's exactly how you force out the truth because lying consistently across multiple depositions across several people from multiple angles cross checked against documents is hard. Especially when they don't know what documents you have and who else you've talked to that you are cross checking them against.
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Jul 11, 2022 14:41
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Not sure how many people listen to cleanup on Aisle 45 or the Daily Beans, but the podcaster AJ today said that she thinks Trump released that BS statement about releasing executive privilege (which isn't a thing) in an attempt to cure Trump's own legal problem of Obstruction of Congress or Obstruction of Justice, if he was previously telling people not to testify.
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Jul 11, 2022 16:03
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Cimber posted:Not sure how many people listen to cleanup on Aisle 45 or the Daily Beans, but the podcaster AJ today said that she thinks Trump released that BS statement about releasing executive privilege (which isn't a thing) in an attempt to cure Trump's own legal problem of Obstruction of Congress or Obstruction of Justice, if he was previously telling people not to testify. If team Trump is paying for lawyers for people appearing at the J6C and they are actually using their position to protect Trump by coordinating testimony and funneling confidential transcripts back so that daddy can see whose been bad and spank them if they get out of line (as shown at the end of the last session) is going to be way more compelling evidence of witness tampering and obstruction of justice then non-existent claims of executive privilege.
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Jul 11, 2022 16:29
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DoJ to Bannon, "STFU and get in the court room": https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.237438/gov.uscourts.dcd.237438.105.0_1.pdfquote:According to public news reports, at midnight on July 10, 2022, the Defendant claimed to Also this is good: quote:that the Defendant’s attorney misrepresented to the Committee what the former Oh, dear. Mr Bannon's Attorney didn't you know that lying to congress is a crime?
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Tomorrow’s hearing has been moved to 1 P.M. Eastern, which is good for all of us not in the Eastern Time Zone.
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Dr. Faustus posted:We are all just speculating right now, none of us know exactly what Bannon is trying to do (though I think we are in the right ballpark for sure). Remember Oathkeeper leader Stewart Rhodes appears to be making the exact same play, saying he will testify but only if he can do it live because "they will edit my testimony to make me look guilty otherwise." the thing is, if the chuds had equel push on the comitte, he could actual do damge. instead he either sells trump out to save himself or lies/pleads the 5th a bunch and they can make just use him as a "well he lied about this and this and this" and such. if he fucks around, it doesn't change much, if he tells the truth then they have his word probably backed by other poo poo and he still gets hosed and jailed.
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https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1546490871423635456?s=20&t=z05BQoeJnV2GwY6zBs5aJQ O poo poo
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mdemone posted:https://twitter.com/JordanOnRecord/status/1546552500333039621?s=20&t=VNhIdwiM48NkoYEvXQogWw This forecloses basically all of Bannon's paths to claim this wasn't contempt, right?
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Fuschia tude posted:This forecloses basically all of Bannon's paths to claim this wasn't contempt, right? His only remaining defense is to argue that he good-faith believed his date could be extended. Which he can't, because any number of public statements bely that.
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Murgos posted:The criminal contempt statute is not intended to procure This sounds like an extremely good and normal and relevant thing you always want to hear from a judge about the circumstances in which you currently find yourself.
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mdemone posted:https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1546490871423635456?s=20&t=z05BQoeJnV2GwY6zBs5aJQ I’ve read this a couple times and im curious how they’re going to pull that off.
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FizFashizzle posted:I’ve read this a couple times and im curious how they’re going to pull that off. They have comms between PB/OK and the White House, through an intermediary. And they've flipped several of them. But still I see what you mean. Whew....
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FizFashizzle posted:I’ve read this a couple times and im curious how they’re going to pull that off. Perhaps some sort of collaborating information that indicted that Trump was going to signal to his followers with a tweet? It’s a serious claim, and I would hope that they have some sort of proof - but it might difficult since Trump tends to eat his paper notes.
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It's going to be something real dumb like a first hand conversation of somebody telling trump "you can't tweet that, it will signal to far right militia groups that they should storm the capital on Jan 6 and you'll be implicated as the leader" and trump throws his big Mac at the wall while he hits the button
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Edward Mass posted:Tomorrow’s hearing has been moved to 1 P.M. Eastern, which is good for all of us not in the Eastern Time Zone.  I'll have to try to catch up Wednesday.
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Ringo Star Get posted:Perhaps some sort of collaborating information that indicted that Trump was going to signal to his followers with a tweet? They've always been able to provide enough corroborating evidence before that lawyers are going, "Yep, that's what that shows alright" so far so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Murgos posted:They've always been able to provide enough corroborating evidence before that lawyers are going, "Yep, that's what that shows alright" so far so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Federal prosecutors, man, who knew
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Murgos posted:DoJ to Bannon, "STFU and get in the court room": https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.237438/gov.uscourts.dcd.237438.105.0_1.pdf Ha. Basically they just said "What we know now isn't going to be helped by anything you can provide us at this point. You had your chance, you told us to go gently caress ourselves, so now we get to tell to suck it. Bubye."
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FizFashizzle posted:I’ve read this a couple times and im curious how they’re going to pull that off. Unless the witness is someone close to Trump who can speak to his state of mind idk how either. Speaking of which, do we know who the witness is yet?
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Unless the witness is someone close to Trump who can speak to his state of mind idk how either. Imagine if it’s Barron. Or Eric.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Unless the witness is someone close to Trump who can speak to his state of mind idk how either. If it was a conspiracy, then texts from the other parties to the conspiracy would do it.
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Ringo Star Get posted:Imagine if it’s Barron. Or Eric. We know that meeting was "Team Crazy" which was Sydney Powell, Giuliani, Flynn and 'other outside lawyers'. My guess is 'other outside lawyers' is going to be 80%-90% of it with the rest being comments from team crazy where they corroborate some part of it.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Unless the witness is someone close to Trump who can speak to his state of mind idk how either. From what I've read, they have not released the witness list yet. On the 12th of December the Proud Boys had many marches in DC, and vandalized several churches. Bill Barr had resigned as Attorney's general on the 14th. Five days later, Trump made the referrenced tweet, saying "Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!" Apparently this was a signal to various groups to begin planning? I think thats the case the Jan 6th committee wants to make.
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Tayter Swift posted:Neither did Hutchinson. As far as I know everyone who has testified so far is an irredeemable ghoul, except Lady Bird and her daughter. It's even run by ghouls apart from Mr. Thompson! most of the dems involved are fine. its just Cheney and kingzinger who suck there. Cimber posted:Ha. exactly. he doesnt have dick to offer and others more trustworthy will provide.
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The committee has delivered thus far. They'd better have some ironclad poo poo to prove intent.
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