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Convex posted:Whats the deal with this game? Is it ‘real gore’ inspired like Brutal Doom? drawbot posted:I tried the demo out some time ago and it was a pretty neat concept but I couldn't get past the crying loli guro aesthetic
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Convex posted:Whats the deal with this game? Is it ‘real gore’ inspired like Brutal Doom?
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Mordja posted:It's dismembered anime girls that the creator beats off to. Archer666 posted:really enjoyed the aesthetic and the heavy mood the game set up, along with the very nice spritework 
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Jul 11, 2022 16:03
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Convex posted:Whats the deal with this game? Is it ‘real gore’ inspired like Brutal Doom? Basically Brutal Doom but with anime girls. Every time you kill an enemy they explode in a shower of mechanical parts, entrails and the (part of a )head of an anime girl. Its overly brutal and I totally get why it gets the reaction it gets. I personally don't really mind it but I also don't mind overly gorey movies so I totally understand if I'm the odd one out here.. It's over the top hyper gore like those 90's anime ovas made explicitly to shock people. Artistically the spritework is high-quality and has a distinct look, even if what it portrays is incredibly hosed up. Mordja posted:It's dismembered anime girls that the creator beats off to. One of the weirder things was the creator coming out and writing that this is actually false. His reasoning is that he's trying to make a modern version of DOOM's gore, except Japanese. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Archer666 posted:One of the weirder things was the creator coming out and writing that this is actually false. His reasoning is that he's trying to make a modern version of DOOM's gore, except Japanese.
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Jul 11, 2022 16:12
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Jul 11, 2022 16:13
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Thanks for the explanations!
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Archer666 posted:It's over the top hyper gore like those 90's anime ovas made explicitly to shock people. Artistically the spritework is high-quality and has a distinct look, even if what it portrays is incredibly hosed up. yes i absolutely 100% believe this
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Jul 11, 2022 16:27
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if you like playing that stuff you're a sick freak imho
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Jul 11, 2022 16:30
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i'm through two episodes in Adaca, which is all that's available in the beta prior to launch (at least, I'm assuming the third episode is gonna be in the 1.0....) and it's a neat lo-poly half-life 2 (mixed with halo guns) tribute for a one-person effort with some issues. there's some unevenness with the level designs, some levels are extremely linear and some are open to the point of needing some signposting so you know what the hell you're supposed to be doing. the gunplay is a little weak, particularly the shotguns (though the art style probably contributes to this) and AI often is pretty dumb or enemies will just stand completely still until you get within X feet of them. some stuff can be tweaked after launch I imagine while other stuff might just be not fixable. there's no voiced dialog as well, it's all text. so the launch price of $20 might be considered a bit steep for the presentation and these issues. but the gravity arm is just on point. if you liked to throw things at enemies rather than shoot them in HL2, this game fulfills the brief excellently. plenty of ragdoll so you can chuck a traffic cone at a person on a roof and they'll fling off. if an enemy is stunned you can grab their gun away from them which of course causes them to run away if they have no other weapons mostly though i was glad i got it for free (itch.io queer games bundle 2022) so i don't have to be annoyed at the flaws that much. there's a neat setting with a society that's built itself around a giant crashed military ship, though the storytelling is a bit generic. the end of episode 2 is similar to the end of HL2 where you get a killing orb, and that's fun. i don't know if episode 3 not being available is actually meant to be a joke about Half Life 2 Episode 3 never coming out, or if it is coming but just not available in the beta
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Jul 11, 2022 16:36
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Definitely "just like Doom" lol ? Tag yourself, im the perfectly preserved kidney laid out on the floor.
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Jul 11, 2022 16:37
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im the booby
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Archer666 posted:It's over the top hyper gore like those 90's anime ovas made explicitly to shock people. Artistically the spritework is high-quality and has a distinct look, even if what it portrays is incredibly hosed up.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:if you like playing that stuff you're a sick freak imho it's insanely gross
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Mordja posted:Definitely "just like Doom" lol I like over the top gory games but this is weird.
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Archer666 posted:It's over the top hyper gore like those 90's anime ovas made explicitly to shock people. Artistically the spritework is high-quality and has a distinct look, even if what it portrays is incredibly hosed up. gonna have to check my sources but i feel like japan in the '90s had plenty of examples for inspiration that weren't "turbomurdering small girls"
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I was gonna say, every time The Citadel is brought up we always have that one guy who's defending it, I think last time around I bowed out of the discussion after a screenshot was posted and they said "I don't see any guro in that". Questionable artwork aside, most reviews of the game don't really have a lot of praise for it. With newer, actually-good retro shooters available there's no point even dwelling on the mediocre stuff.
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Yeah I'll like, defend Soldier of Fortune or whatever, but this is clearly the developer's fetish and we shouldn't be supporting it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvb04gU_UmU
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Weird, I'm certain IcarusLIVES had a video on The Citadel but its gone now.
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Jul 11, 2022 17:46
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Never get more questionable than Hitler getting nut shot.
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I'm glad it is dead.
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Fashion Police Squad releases August 15th Gloomwood Early Access starts August 16th Scathe on August 31st ASKE, Selaco and Cultic also have August dates in SteamDB but we'll see if they release (likely Early Access for all) or if those dates get changed
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Mordja posted:I'm glad it is dead.  I’m really thankful that they went a new direction rather than make a generic shooter with a Doom skin over it.
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The 7th Guest posted:so the launch price of $20 might be considered a bit steep for the presentation and these issues. I don't mean to be a dick $20 bucks is not steep at all. There's a baller rear end campaign full of bangin' tunes, hard hitting weapons, with a free episode 3 update in production afaik. Then there's the zone patrol mode, which I recently beat, which took me a solid 12 hours. I don't think not having voiced dialogue is a presentation issue either, it just doesn't need it. It's all made by one person who, having followed development for about a year and a half now, works their rear end off. I was gonna make a big post about the game once the 1.0 launches this month but I figure I'll just do it now. Adaca is this interesting cocktail of Half-Life 2, Halo, and Stalker, with some genuinely cool worldbuilding and lore that makes me think of Marathon quite a bit. The weapon sandbox is really satisfying, and there was a recent update that bumped the weapon inventory up to three instead of two (1 sidearm and 2 long guns). No, the AI is not complex but again, managing the expectations is important. I'm a total braindead moron and I never got stuck or confused or lost in the campaign. The Zone Patrol is a whole different beast. It's like a semi-open world exploration/mission based bonus game that takes place after the events of the campaign, and I'm pretty certain the story that goes on there is going to set up episode 3. What's interesting about Zone Patrol is that it goes very old school with the design, in that you really, really gotta put the work in to figure out where to go and what to do next. You have a journal that you can jot down notes in, but I ended up getting one in real life for easier access, I took tons of screenshots of interesting landmarks and whatnot. You really do have to pay attention to clues and signposts. Again, I'm a dimwitted poo poo for brains, and even I figured out where to go and completed the zone patrol mode with only 2 unfinished side quests. It's not without issues, but no game is so v  v There's a ton of heart and soul poured into this thing and it's really fun and charming and engaging and deserves support.It's absolutely worth $20 (or whatever it's going to be honestly, support hard working indie devs). Main theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swuNeN4xKUc
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The 7th Guest posted:Fashion Police Squad releases August 15th Fabulous!
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:I don't mean to be a dick $20 bucks is not steep at all. And yeah $20 is not steep for a full HL2 campaign, I just wonder if the AI issues with lo-poly style will be a turnoff for people. I thought it was fine, similar to something like Wild West & Wizards (another one-person game I recommend). Although it could be a little better optimized, as it ran on Steam Deck with settings turned down but still had framerate drops to the 30s during larger firefights. Oh one bug I noticed is that if you quicksave beyond a checkpoint, any enemies you haven't killed will still be on the map IN ADDITION to respawning. I got pinned in one spot and kept reloading my quicksave, only to discover the area was now crawling with a dozen dopplegangers. Luckily bailing and running away is a valid strategy to get out of a nasty fight. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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The 7th Guest posted:Oh one bug I noticed is that if you quicksave beyond a checkpoint, any enemies you haven't killed will still be on the map IN ADDITION to respawning. I got pinned in one spot and kept reloading my quicksave, only to discover the area was now crawling with a dozen dopplegangers. Luckily bailing and running away is a valid strategy to get out of a nasty fight. I haven't had this bug, might be worth reporting on the discord, that could be gnarly.
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SeANMcBAY posted:I like over the top gory games but this is weird. Yeah this turns the gross fetish dial harder than a lot of things. Nobody is ever obligated not to kinkshame.
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Jul 11, 2022 19:35
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Trying to play that off like "nah guys it's not my fetish" is so loving funny lmao
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Mordja posted:Tag yourself, im the perfectly preserved kidney laid out on the floor. This is kind of veering into the direction of dogpiling a specific goon, and it's probably better to just drop the topic by this point; but seriously, pretending that this is anything else than a fetish game about explicitly sexualized hyperviolence is something of an insult to everyone's intelligence. And that kind of matters, because anyone curious about that game should at the very least know what sort of stuff they'll be confronted with.
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Hahahaha cum
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RE: The Citadel, the creator got pretty upset when they were accused of being a guro artist and claimed they were just making.. uh anime gibs I guess. But also when your gibs are attached to weird anime body horror space Nuns I don't really think you're tip toeing along a line any more, you've like danger rolled over it. It defo makes me feel weirdly sad the way most guro does instead of like a lizard trooper's leg flying off in Duke 3D. Edit: Though I'm not sure I'm fit to comment of gore because I too lovingly render ludicrous gibs https://twitter.com/Shoehead_art/status/1528775192465625092?t=2kkEvyXts6tGTXNpPdFJog&s=19 Shoehead fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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Feel like the loli gore poo poo was just litigated in QCS and the moral of the story is it can gently caress off forever imho
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RyokoTK posted:Feel like the loli gore poo poo was just litigated in QCS and the moral of the story is it can gently caress off forever imho You know it's going to be something really bad when the thread poster is being extremely coy about what it is they feel got punished too harshly
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I don't even think Citadel is a game entirely without merit there's some cool Geiger rear end poo poo in there but yeah nah that's a guro fetish game no thanks. Taking this to a constructive conversation about video game gore I'm of two minds about it because there's plenty of games with extremely gory poo poo in them that's great, with limbs and guts sprayed everywhere but like, I feel as if there's not exactly a line but definitely a tonal quality that can kill it. A key one for me is I hate the direction gore has taken in Mortal Kombat. I dunno exactly how to describe it but it's just gross now. Too much fidelity? Not enough silliness?
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Current MK is a great example of taking things too far because a heap of Neatherrealm artists ended up looking at real corpses in the name of accuracy and were super disturbed by it. In the series where you could punch like 6 entire ribcages out of someone.
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Glagha posted:I don't even think Citadel is a game entirely without merit there's some cool Geiger rear end poo poo in there but yeah nah that's a guro fetish game no thanks. I think "not enough silliness" is a big part of it. See also TFC's cl_gibcount 200, where you can headshot someone and produce a gigantic meat fountain containing, like, 30 skulls. But it also helps that the individual gibs are relatively cartoony and low-fidelity.
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