|
Raenir Salazar posted:Do they have to be that big in space? I thought they're only that big on Earth due to interference. If so, maybe that could be another use for asteroid mining and space processing/fabrication of materials in the long term, aseembling large sensor arrays for deep space telemetry. For radio astronomy their telescopes do have to be big just because of how large the wavelengths are, though as said bigger is obviously better, to get around interference theyre located in places where there either isnt a lot of radio broadcasters or enforce a radio silence zone around (usually both). But the only serious space radio telescope proposal I'm aware of would be to place one on the far side of the moon which would block pretty much all interference from Earth
|
# ? Jun 15, 2022 21:53 |
|
|
# ? May 24, 2024 20:21 |
|
JWST will be releasing first full color images on 2022-07-12 starting @ 10:30 EST. You'll be able to watch the press event here: nasa.gov/webbfirstimages.
|
# ? Jun 23, 2022 04:35 |
|
Neat videos: Asteroid Impact Comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyyrfB8s5cY I kinda like how the presentation is almost at Final Fantasy 7 "nova" levels of spectacle. Kurzgesagt: The Last Human: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEENEFaVUzU
|
# ? Jul 7, 2022 19:04 |
|
Dameius posted:JWST will be releasing first full color images on 2022-07-12 starting @ 10:30 EST. You'll be able to watch the press event here: nasa.gov/webbfirstimages. https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1546290906046816256 Spoilers!!
|
# ? Jul 11, 2022 16:12 |
|
why not just release them this is some bullshit
|
# ? Jul 11, 2022 18:44 |
|
If this is part of some strategy to get more space telescopes, I am for it. Feels like it would have worked better on trump to tell him he gets to tell people about important space photos and get applause and then tell him that if there are more telescopes, there will be more photos.
|
# ? Jul 11, 2022 18:49 |
|
Heck Yes! Loam! posted:why not just release them this is some bullshit Because we live in late-capitalist dystopia even NASA has to do this "teaser trailer" garbage trying to hype up their space photos like it's the next season of Stranger Things or AAA game sequel.
|
# ? Jul 11, 2022 19:35 |
|
I would bet a reasonable sum that the impetus for the presidential early release came from the White House, not NASA. At most, NASA might have suggested it first to curry presidential favour, but I haven't heard of Biden having a particular grudge against or really any strong opinions about NASA.
Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jul 11, 2022 |
# ? Jul 11, 2022 20:09 |
|
Has it been released or what my stream says starting soon but this news live blog is saying it’s been released.
|
# ? Jul 11, 2022 22:44 |
|
Live streams on now
|
# ? Jul 11, 2022 23:13 |
|
|
# ? Jul 11, 2022 23:24 |
|
Tag yourself, I am the dragon shaped galaxy towards the bottom quarter.
|
# ? Jul 11, 2022 23:27 |
My God. I do see the ring!
|
|
# ? Jul 11, 2022 23:28 |
|
can someone smart explain how this picture compares with the Hubble deep field picture
|
# ? Jul 11, 2022 23:36 |
|
Boris Galerkin posted:can someone smart explain how this picture compares with the Hubble deep field picture
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 00:16 |
|
I AM GRANDO posted:If this is part of some strategy to get more space telescopes, I am for it. Feels like it would have worked better on trump to tell him he gets to tell people about important space photos and get applause and then tell him that if there are more telescopes, there will be more photos. Maybe don’t tell him the part about the 20+ year development time for Hubble and James Webb telescopes.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 00:21 |
|
The
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 00:32 |
|
https://twitter.com/jason4short/status/1546633395643432961?t=3MkdrrFdqcOm9-0cko-jEw&s=19 https://twitter.com/ianlauerastro/status/1546625603641790465?t=Yx0jfvA4wBSCx1ne-FRuMQ&s=19 Unormal fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jul 12, 2022 |
# ? Jul 12, 2022 00:40 |
|
Holy poo poo that's incredible
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 00:47 |
|
Unormal posted:https://twitter.com/jason4short/status/1546633395643432961?t=3MkdrrFdqcOm9-0cko-jEw&s=19 The closeup really sells it. Weird smudges pop into fully formed galaxies, pixels turn into full structure and I bet even more detail than I can notice. Take me to space already.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 01:06 |
|
Raenir Salazar posted:Tag yourself, I am the dragon shaped galaxy towards the bottom quarter. I'm the at the northeast point of the biggest star.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 01:13 |
|
We're all goons sooooo we're all the dark matter that no one can see but nevertheless are so massive we distort light.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 01:15 |
|
God drat, that is truly amazing.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 01:17 |
|
Dameius posted:We're all goons sooooo we're all the dark matter that no one can see but nevertheless are so massive we distort light. Is that what's happening with all the swirly looking galaxies and the elongated ones?
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 01:18 |
|
Raenir Salazar posted:Is that what's happening with all the swirly looking galaxies and the elongated ones? Don't quote me on it but yeah I assume its distortion from lensing.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 01:50 |
|
Unormal posted:https://twitter.com/ianlauerastro/status/1546625603641790465?t=Yx0jfvA4wBSCx1ne-FRuMQ&s=19 Wow why didn’t they just show this on the stream E: I meant to quote the tweet with the closeup gif holy poo poo that’s insane. That’s like in tv when they go “enhance and tighten up the graphics” except this time it’s real
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 01:53 |
|
It's worth noting as well that the JWST image was exposed over a matter of a hours, whereas Hubble deep field images take at least a week, sometimes more. If we expose JWST images for longer, we can potentially take even more mind-boggling photos. It also means that we get more science out of it in general - there are a lot more people who want to use the telescopes for science than there is time for the telescope to stare at stuff. Being able to take images faster means more people get to do more research.Raenir Salazar posted:Is that what's happening with all the swirly looking galaxies and the elongated ones? Yes. There is a cluster of galaxies at the center on the ripples (note how the swirls sorta resolve into circles if you extend and connect them) and the dark matter that is clustered there is so dense that this mostly-invisible mass is bending light around it, acting like a lens.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 08:59 |
|
aniviron posted:
What the gently caress! That’s wild!! So cool.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 14:18 |
|
Unormal posted:https://twitter.com/jason4short/status/1546633395643432961?t=3MkdrrFdqcOm9-0cko-jEw&s=19 That's neat but why not just put it into Dall-E and have it upscale the picture
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 14:34 |
|
aniviron posted:It's worth noting as well that the JWST image was exposed over a matter of a hours, whereas Hubble deep field images take at least a week, sometimes more. If we expose JWST images for longer, we can potentially take even more mind-boggling photos. From what I was reading these are the difference of Hubble at 240 hours vs JWST at 24 hours exposure times.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 14:39 |
Man, NASA doesn't have a lot of experience with streaming (I think?). This stream is a mess and it's kinda funny. Let's see the pics!
|
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 15:37 |
|
Dameius posted:From what I was reading these are the difference of Hubble at 240 hours vs JWST at 24 hours exposure times. It's not. This is the HST image (with different color balance). That cluster took a total of Possibly someone added up the total time for that entire survey, which was 270 hours, but that was for 41 clusters, not just that one. Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Jul 12, 2022 |
# ? Jul 12, 2022 15:49 |
|
eravulgaris posted:Man, NASA doesn't have a lot of experience with streaming (I think?). This stream is a mess and it's kinda funny. Let's see the pics! They're streaming directly from L2.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 15:53 |
|
eXXon posted:It's not. This is the HST image (with different color balance). That cluster took a total of Awesome, thanks for the correction. Amazing regardless the difference because it's still incredible.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 16:01 |
|
aniviron posted:Yes. There is a cluster of galaxies at the center on the ripples (note how the swirls sorta resolve into circles if you extend and connect them) and the dark matter that is clustered there is so dense that this mostly-invisible mass is bending light around it, acting like a lens. How do the like, three remaining guys that still believe in modified Newtonian Dynamics explain that? Just a bunch of black holes chilling all together without a wisp of hydrogen?
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 16:06 |
|
I wonder how you'd go finding out about that, outside of keeping an eye on Arxiv. Is there a MOND newsgroup around, or something?
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 16:53 |
|
Is MOND in crackpot territory now? I thought there was a publication a little while ago that gave it a little credibility back, but I can’t remember what or why. If you’re a MOND guy, how easy is it to switch to something else? I assume that it would be easy, since you’re still studying gravity and probably a lot of the same things dark matter people study.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 17:53 |
|
I AM GRANDO posted:Is MOND in crackpot territory now? I thought there was a publication a little while ago that gave it a little credibility back, but I can’t remember what or why. I don't think it's crackpot, just running on inertia. You can probably contrive a lot of perfectly valid scenarios to explain what we see, but Occam's razor at this point is cutting so deeply in the other direction that even if your heart leans MOND you do have to acknowledge it looks pretty bad for the theory.
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 18:16 |
|
MOND believers generally spend most of their time on galaxy rotation curves and/or galaxy cluster dynamics with an occasional foray into specific modified gravity theories. Most other astrophysicists pay them little attention because there's no MOND theory I know of that works at multiple scales (a random paper I found on that topic if you care to delve further), so... why bother? Anyway, JWST's view of the Carina Nebula is pretty nice: https://twitter.com/NASAWebb/status/1546877197583060993 ... but I like Stephan's Quintet more: https://twitter.com/NASAWebb/status/1546874376351612930?cxt=HHwWhIC8qZaDzfcqAAAA
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 18:30 |
|
|
# ? May 24, 2024 20:21 |
|
https://twitter.com/chevronsauvages/status/1546878138768138241
|
# ? Jul 12, 2022 19:06 |