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Thank you. ...and bought. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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Omobono posted:I'm liking the supports, but I still have some misgivings at everyone, and I mean everyone, staring at their interlocutor's chest and/or abs. Not that I don't understand but faces and eyes are further upwards you know? Yeah, once I noticed it it's pretty hilarious every time a conversation is framed waist-up, the eyelines are a little suspect... 
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Jul 11, 2022 20:31
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Clawtopsy posted:But there was no way they were going to make the cover lord non-marriageable if you picked Boyleth. this is mostly besides the edelgard point you're making aside from generally reinforcing the het of it all, but worth noting that they in fact made a cover lord of this game non-marriageable for Boyleth. twice, even.
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Jul 11, 2022 20:49
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Valentin posted:this is mostly besides the edelgard point you're making aside from generally reinforcing the het of it all, but worth noting that they in fact made a cover lord of this game non-marriageable for Boyleth. twice, even. I think to continue the het themes here, it would be more akin to saying "likewise they wouldn't have allowed Claude/Dimitri to not marry Bylass". In Scarlet Blaze, I've found there is a story divergence where if you do not recruit Byleth, Claude betrays you at Aeleil which significantly alters the mission. If you recruit Byleth, he doesn't double-cross you. Is there a comparable consequence for Azure Gleam or Golden Wildfire? Is there any likewise unique followup apart from losing Rodrigue/Judith in place of Randolph, respectively? Clawtopsy fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Jul 12, 2022 |
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Jul 12, 2022 02:23
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Hargrimm posted:Yeah, once I noticed it it's pretty hilarious every time a conversation is framed waist-up, the eyelines are a little suspect... I thought maybe it's because ManShez is shorter but I think they're the same height.
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Jul 12, 2022 02:49
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Oh wow, I didn’t realize that there was an option for Claude not to betray you, it just seemed like something he would do naturally. That’s a pretty cool divergence, now I wonder what else is out there too.
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Jul 12, 2022 02:49
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so how does that work with the record keeper then?
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Jul 12, 2022 02:51
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Finally finished Scarlet Blaze, and after some deliberation I think I'm gonna run it again on Maddening before going to other routes. Regarding Arval like others have said their story seems incomplete but I can't really bring myself to give a poo poo about them so whatever. Also, just gonna get this out of my system: EPIMENIDES NUTZ
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Jul 12, 2022 02:52
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Clawtopsy posted:In Scarlet Blaze, I've found there is a story divergence where if you do not recruit Byleth, Claude betrays you at Aeleil which significantly alters the mission. If you recruit Byleth, he doesn't double-cross you. Is there a comparable consequence for Azure Gleam or Golden Wildfire? Is there any likewise unique followup apart from losing Rodrigue/Judith in place of Randolph, respectively? There is not, no. Each route gets a unique FMV of a tragic death, and a handful of lines in camp are altered to reflect this. You get the cutscene of Byleth submitting to Sothis, they show up at the end of chapter 14, you kill them, Arval is happy about it, and no Zahras interlude. These scenes are the exact same on all three routes. Only on Scarlet Blaze does Byleth think to affect the plot.
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Jul 12, 2022 02:55
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Tired Moritz posted:so how does that work with the record keeper then? They are separate maps. No matter what route you take, on CH14 there will be a missing map.
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Jul 12, 2022 02:56
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wtf, this is black eagles discrimination again!
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Jul 12, 2022 03:03
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An adventure mode would be easy. Just show the whole map and every area sub area that's available for each of the 3 sides and let us go hog wild. I know record keeper does that, kind of, but it's all in text in menus where a world map completely opened with all 3 sides and you go wherever would be pretty nice.
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Jul 12, 2022 04:43
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I just want them to bring back stuff like the "Rack up KOs" missions
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Jul 12, 2022 04:59
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I would play the poo poo out of Fire Emblem Warriors: Empires.
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Jul 12, 2022 05:11
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:There is not, no. Each route gets a unique FMV of a tragic death, and a handful of lines in camp are altered to reflect this. You get the cutscene of Byleth submitting to Sothis, they show up at the end of chapter 14, you kill them, Arval is happy about it, and no Zahras interlude. These scenes are the exact same on all three routes. Only on Scarlet Blaze does Byleth think to affect the plot. “The outcome of this mission will severely alter the story*” “*in Scarlet Blaze suck it other losers”
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Jul 12, 2022 06:36
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Clawtopsy posted:“The outcome of this mission will severely alter the story*” As befits all enemies of Lady Edelgard.
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Jul 12, 2022 06:38
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I always assume when a Japanese game tells me that my decision will affect the story it's lying to me anyway
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Jul 12, 2022 07:19
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unlike western games, like walking dead or mass effect 3
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Jul 12, 2022 07:25
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:Yeah I know there's at least one paralogue I missed from flubbing picking up Byleth on a playthrough but I think I'm pretty done with this until DLC unless redoing a route you've already done lets you interact with your "Other" roster in a meaningful way As far as I know, only one Renown character can actually be used in the story, only for one battle, and only by fulfilling a very particular set of circumstances. You must have Arval unlocked on a run where you also kill Byleth, and that unlocks a paralogue later on where the only usable playable character (until you beat it) is Arval.
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Jul 12, 2022 13:55
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ImpAtom posted:I would play the poo poo out of Fire Emblem Warriors: Empires. That's always been my favourite iteration of Dynasty Warriors. A randomized dynamic campaign with all the different Three House characters would be awesome
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Jul 13, 2022 19:49
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Edelgard may or may not have done anything wrong, as the RNG decides.
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Jul 13, 2022 19:57
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DarkAvenger211 posted:That's always been my favourite iteration of Dynasty Warriors. A randomized dynamic campaign with all the different Three House characters would be awesome God, now I’m imaging doing a randomised campaign as Constance taking over the land IN THE NAME OF HOUSE NUVELLE! I didn’t touch the DLC so this is my first time having any meaningful interaction with the DLC characters but I loving love Constance. It also helps that her in Gremory + Essence of Light pretty much makes her a walking death machine with orbital light lasers shooting down from the skies while she laughs manically (if she is in shade mode).
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Jul 13, 2022 22:52
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Randomized would be a trip. Hubert declaring 'for lady edelgard' while invading her lands and laying waste to her armies.
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Jul 13, 2022 23:49
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The thing is, Three Hopes is very much 'Empires, but with a plot'. Or possibly the build up mode from 7 and 8. All these random, empty battles.
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Jul 13, 2022 23:52
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The gold grind sucks
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Jul 14, 2022 00:03
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I just got Hapi and Constance in my GD run. They show up pretty late, but I'm excited to see that they have supports with some other characters that they didn't in 3 Houses! I tried them out in a mock battle, and I already like their special abilities. They're maybe not as broken as some others, but they're easy to understand and visually easy to see when they can be activated.
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Jul 14, 2022 02:43
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Clawtopsy posted:The gold grind sucks It stops eventually, I have like 400k gold at the end of my second route and can't do anything with it other than convert it to smithing stones that I don't need because my weapons are good enough
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Jul 14, 2022 03:58
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Cross-posting myself. Detective No. 27 posted:
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Zwingley posted:It stops eventually, I have like 400k gold at the end of my second route and can't do anything with it other than convert it to smithing stones that I don't need because my weapons are good enough I guess it depends on if you want to go into Maddening, since that takes 350k to max out one weapon.  There's plenty of places to dump money.
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Jul 14, 2022 06:18
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Endorph posted:unlike western games, like walking dead or mass effect 3 You have more agency than you do in all but the most experimental jrpgs and they're derided for being on rails. Acting like they are really comparable in that sense is pretty disingenuous there.
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Jul 14, 2022 07:55
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what's really disingenous here is acting like "japanese games" (a ridiculously wide net, btw) have a history of touting a reactive story that changes based on your choices and not living up to it actually name a single one that does
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Jul 14, 2022 09:04
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There's a lot of reactive VNs. It's primarily RPGs where you see the big difference in narrative styles.
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Jul 14, 2022 09:33
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most video games in general don’t have very reactive stories because those are hard to design without the scope of the game ballooning to uncontrollable levels
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Jul 14, 2022 10:15
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Yeah, the best ones are games like Alpha Protocol where player choices impact how various levels play out vut the plot beats broadly speaking remain the same, just with different characters slotted into different scenes and the order in which you do the levels impacting dialogue and level design to some extent. Easier to design (nothing is really “skippable” so not a lot of lost work from the dev side) but the choices you *do* get are tactical or personal in nature
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Jul 14, 2022 10:33
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I'm doing Black Eagles and I'm on chapter...19 now I think? We're finally in the Kingdom after dealing with the rebellions and while I'm liking it man I do feel like this is a bit drawn out. Starting to find myself getting tired of the repetativeness of the missions and spending time faffing around making sure I've killed enough enemies. And I've run out of classes to mess with too. I also kinda feel like if I'd not played Three Houses I'd have no connection here, it's very shallow with the way it portrays the characters. I know that's part and parcel of a warriors game and story isn't normally much of a thing but it's a shame. As someone who loved three houses I am really enjoy getting more from the characters though. And getting to see ones we didn't see before like Holtz! Spoiler here for the special thing in black eagles 14 I think the way they show the strategy as ??? makes it feel like you missed something. If someone hadn't told me how to get Byleth I'd have just assumed I'd hosed up and not got the strategy for some reason
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Jul 14, 2022 11:38
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very shallow? they've exactly replicated the writing style and feel of three houses if you ask me (in fact they may literally just have the same writers), nobody feels out of character and they're exploring fun new interactions and angles with them that we didn't get to see there. i have 0 problems with this game's writing in general, in fact i like it more than three houses because the main story is way better instead of all the weight being carried by supports and worldbuilding.
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Jul 14, 2022 13:42
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Amppelix posted:very shallow? they've exactly replicated the writing style and feel of three houses if you ask me (in fact they may literally just have the same writers), nobody feels out of character and they're exploring fun new interactions and angles with them that we didn't get to see there. i have 0 problems with this game's writing in general, in fact i like it more than three houses because the main story is way better instead of all the weight being carried by supports and worldbuilding. No you misunderstand They don't feel introduced well enough. I get them because I know them already, but you don't get the introduction you get from the real game. So if you don't know them already it doesn't hit as well
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Eh I can get where they are coming from on some level. While the plot is better written I think the game doesn't land the emotional beats anywhere near as 3H. Part of it is Shez's mercenary attitude as a character, part of it is who they choose to focus on, and I feel that part of it is also just a consequence of the shift to musou gameplay, at least for me. SB for example is better plotted but that plot is essentially about running around and putting out fires. The best stuff is with Duke Aegir but he should've been more present instead of only a three chapter type deal. In general with how the Slitherer's are dealt with is also through showing a bunch of them individually instead of focusing on one as a main villain, and well the general weaknesses of the Slitherers as compelling antagonists to me. Hell even Arval isn't in the game enough to really form an emotional connection to them. And Rhea, the best part of CF is largely absent until you just kill her. The supports at least have more to play with because they aren't as shackled to the typical support structure since they assume you know the character, but some characters kind of suffer for that, like Bernadetta. However that also allows some characters to be incredibly expanded upon in great ways like Hubert and Petra. I'm not sure if I feel alone on this but when characters die it can feel very arbitrary thanks to the gameplay. Like why does this person I'm running laps around get to magically teleport away and why do they die? I know FE can have people just flee even when it doesn't make the most sense, but it feels less arbitrary because it's a turn based game at the least. I'm not literally running circles around them as they 'flee'. Overall I love how the game added to the politics of Fodlan, but CF had a lot of emotional moments that hit me and I love while SB just felt like 'oh neat a chance to spend more time with my friends.' Though part of that could be how the game handles it's ending, but I don't think that is entirely it as I hopefully explained.
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Eimi posted:SB just felt like 'oh neat a chance to spend more time with my friends.' Though part of that could be how the game handles it's ending, but I don't think that is entirely it as I hopefully explained. Yea exactly this. For example Ingrid died in my game. But in the game I'd never met her. She's nobody. It made a big deal of it and if I'd never played Three Houses I'd be going ???
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I agree but I also don't necessarily think it's a fault of the game that it's a sequel?
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