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Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I thought you lived in London actually. Didn't you work at a big museum there?

I did. Moved up north to be with the love of my life. And to try and own a house ofc. It's not going badly atm, got a car, trying to get more work, that sort of thing! It's why I've not been posting as much.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Nice :)

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

peanut- posted:

Your mortgage application will still be instantly rejected if you disclose that any of the money you're buying the house with was earned in crypto. The banks are inconsistent at best about how they treat proceeds.

Hahaha can you blame them?

"I made my deposit money by betting on a ponzi scheme. Sure you can trust me with hundreds of thousands more"

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009

jiggerypokery posted:

Hahaha can you blame them?

"I made my deposit money by betting on a ponzi scheme. Sure you can trust me with hundreds of thousands more"

You might not get a mortgage but you'd get a job there

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

the sex ghost posted:



Nobody tell him

lol that two candidates came out with hilariously ill fitting graphics https://twitter.com/PeteFranklin/status/1546535311538282496

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
They know their audience.

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/12/mps-approve-controversial-plans-to-let-agency-workers-cover-for-striking-staff

Grimly predictable, though not sure where they are training up the agency workers to drive trains given you aren't allowed to do that on your own until you have completed a lengthy training course and weeks of supervised driving.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Tom Tugendhat A Nu Start

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

fuctifino posted:

My public vaping stunts

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

stev posted:

Shame he didn't go with A New Start.

He wouldn't get through the probationary period.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Bacon Terrorist posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/12/mps-approve-controversial-plans-to-let-agency-workers-cover-for-striking-staff

Grimly predictable, though not sure where they are training up the agency workers to drive trains given you aren't allowed to do that on your own until you have completed a lengthy training course and weeks of supervised driving.

quote:

Though agency workers can now replace strikers, questions remain over the numbers of spare teachers, nurses and train drivers who can step in as replacements.

With both the National Education Union and NASUWT threatening strike action in the autumn term, the Conservative MP Jonathan Gullis offered to return to the classroom should those threats materialise.

lmao ah yes, one oval office offering to scab, that'll solve the strike

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Imagining an MP subbing in for a teacher and just immediately being wedgied

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Z the IVth posted:

Very slowly and with great difficulty.

In the US the IRS would be demanding a cut as well. With how crypto goes you could owe the IRS on proceeds of that 100s of 1000s despite that investment cratering to :10bux:
Yeah, isn't it based on year-end value? So you 'make' 500k from investments in one year, and the next year the value of it craters, you still have to pay the higher tax on that 500k.

I'm sure if you have a fancy accountant you can offset those gains over the next 300 years or negate it by turning it into a shipping container full of art before turning in your spreadsheet; in the same way that I'm sure the average person losing 500k does not have access to those rules.

Every time I think of finance guys talking about 'democratising investment,' the problem is that traditional investment is funny because the con is usually extracting wealth from people rich and dumb enough they don't notice (or use weird tax schemes to write it off), whereas as Imagineer pointed out, crypto is fleecing your average desperate working man just trying to escape the rat race.

A lot of crypto bros were going on about how the superbowl ad was the beginning of the end and anyone 'sensible' cashed out before that, while still contributing to the public facing effort of telling the public to buy into a scam they knew was doomed (they'd have to, to cash out properly). Which then encourages the next generation of investors to be even more agressively scamstatic, since that's what they saw happen when they were onboarded, except they also know that conditions are tighter now.

Even people like Lord Sugar who claims to have made his money selling Amsteads out of the back of a van - he's not smart, he just knew where he could find people he'd be able to sell the machines to and outsmart them into selling the machines with a large enough margin. Every single prick who found a way to get rich under capitalism did so by finding someone they could convince to part with their money. And like I say, when that's rich kids who can take the loss because it's less than their weekly coke budget, it's always morrally correct. When it's desperate people remortaging their house because reddit is telling them to buy the dip, it's substantially less funny.

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009
If you can drive a car you can drive a train. Easier even since you don't have to turn

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Tesseraction posted:

lmao ah yes, one oval office offering to scab, that'll solve the strike

Do not let Tory MPs in to a class full of children

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
You won't get taxed on anything unless you sell. The problem a lot of the crypto guys have is they sold, crystalised a massive tax bill on their gain, then reinvested the money in other crypto that has since collapsed in value.

So now what they own isn't worth enough to cover the taxes they owe on the original sale.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

fuctifino posted:

Just over a week ago, I noticed a promotional email from my cannabis clinic, and at the end it mentioned a competition where they were asking patients to upload videos of their experiences with the clinic to help break the stigma of cannabis use. My public vaping stunts, including the recently adopted open vaping in the pub beer garden, have been all about breaking the stigma, so it seemed right up my alley. I quickly pieced together a rambling video and managed to submit it before the deadline. It didn't really fit the competition brief, but brushed upon it.

https://twitter.com/stuwyatt/status/1542465352461914113

The result? I won the loving competition, and at around midday today, I'm going to be the proud receiver of a £400 Volcano Medic 2:



:420: is awesome as a coping mechanism for [wildly gesticulates at everything], and it looks like I'm going to have the perfect tool to consume it

:smug:

Congrats on winning. But I've got to say I'm not sure taking bongs and other large glass vaping devices out in public is the best way to fix the stigma. It makes it come across as something you're doing for fun rather than for medicinal purposes. If you're doing it more for getting rid the stigma of cannabis for recreational use I still think it's not the best way.

Kinda of like the image differences between someone sitting on a park bench sipping with a can of cider compared to sipping from a bottle of vodka. It has different conatasions.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

peanut- posted:

Your mortgage application will still be instantly rejected if you disclose that any of the money you're buying the house with was earned in crypto. The banks are inconsistent at best about how they treat proceeds.
TBH if I had £525k sat around I’d probably skip the mortgage and just buy a house with a big sack of cash

Mega Comrade posted:

Congrats on winning. But I've got to say I'm not sure taking bongs and other large glass vaping devices out in public is the best way to fix the stigma. It makes it come across as something you're doing for fun rather than for medicinal purposes. If you're doing it more for getting rid the stigma of cannabis for recreational use I still think it's not the best way.

Kinda of like the image differences between someone sitting on a park bench sipping with a can of cider compared to sipping from a bottle of vodka. It has different conatasions.
I think you’re rather proving his point here

TACD fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Jul 12, 2022

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Mega Comrade posted:

Kinda of like the image differences between someone sitting on a park bench sipping with a can of cider compared to sipping from a bottle of vodka. It has different conatasions.
That's what the juice boxes are for.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Mega Comrade posted:

Congrats on winning. But I've got to say I'm not sure taking bongs and other large glass vaping devices out in public is the best way to fix the stigma. It makes it come across as something you're doing for fun rather than for medicinal purposes. If you're doing it more for getting rid the stigma of cannabis for recreational use I still think it's not the best way.

Kinda of like the image differences between someone sitting on a park bench sipping with a can of cider compared to sipping from a bottle of vodka. It has different conatasions.

It's all about the associations though isn't it. Imagine a man ripping a bong in a pub, but he's wearing a suit and is on the phone to his mum talking about what she's doing on her birthday.

The connotations come from things that are not the delivery method

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

It's all about the associations though isn't it. Imagine a man ripping a bong in a pub, but he's wearing a suit and is on the phone to his mum talking about what she's doing on her birthday.

The connotations come from things that are not the delivery method

If its something formal like a captain Tom memorial bong yea. If its a big gently caress off glowing green alien bong maybe not.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Mega Comrade posted:

Congrats on winning. But I've got to say I'm not sure taking bongs and other large glass vaping devices out in public is the best way to fix the stigma. It makes it come across as something you're doing for fun rather than for medicinal purposes. If you're doing it more for getting rid the stigma of cannabis for recreational use I still think it's not the best way.

Kinda of like the image differences between someone sitting on a park bench sipping with a can of cider compared to sipping from a bottle of vodka. It has different conatasions.

There's also the stigma against smoking in general which is actually very good and needs to be reinforced constantly.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

TACD posted:

I think you’re rather proving his point here

But if the goal is to normalise medical and recreational use you want to separate it from 'stoner culture' as much as possible.

Getting people to be ok with ripping on a bong in the park is gonna be way way harder than doing the same with a vape pen.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Heat chat:

Who else remembers The Hot Summer of 1976?

I was a stroppy teen and my folks insisted on me going on holiday with them to a Welsh beach somewhere. I spent the whole holiday in heavy jeans, heavy purple cardigan, reading Dead Souls by Gogol and listening to Night at the Opera by Queen. At the end of the holiday, just before leaving for the 4hr drive home, my dad picked me up (fully dressed) and threw me in the sea. I think he regretted having a very wet, very stroppy teen in the car (with several other siblings) chuntering and complaining all the way home. They never made me go on family holiday again!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_British_Isles_heat_wave

The 1976 British Isles heat wave led to the second hottest summer average temperature in the UK since records began. At the same time, the country suffered a severe drought.[2][3] It was one of the driest, sunniest and warmest summers (June/July/August) in the 20th century, although the summer of 1995 is now regarded as the driest. Only a few places registered more than half their average summer rainfall. In the CET record, it was the warmest summer in that series. It was the warmest summer in the Aberdeen area since at least 1864, and the driest summer since 1868 in Glasgow.[4]

Heathrow had 16 consecutive days over 30 °C (86 °F) from 23 June to 8 July[5] and for 15 consecutive days from 23 June to 7 July temperatures reached 32.2 °C (90 °F) somewhere in England. Furthermore, five days saw temperatures exceed 35 °C (95 °F). On 28 June, temperatures reached 35.6 °C (96.1 °F) in Southampton, the highest June temperature recorded in the UK. The hottest day of all was 3 July, with temperatures reaching 35.9 °C (96.6 °F) in Cheltenham.

I remember the tar on the road melted, that was a new one to 8yr old me. :magical:

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Happy twelfth of July to all the Irish goons, top of the morning to you and tiocfaidh ár lá :guinness:

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I smoke weed all the time in public - I hate to do it but my levels of solidarity with fuctifino are so through the roof I barely leave the house for recreational reasons without lighting a fatty

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Mega Comrade posted:

Congrats on winning. But I've got to say I'm not sure taking bongs and other large glass vaping devices out in public is the best way to fix the stigma.
It makes it come across as something you're doing for fun rather than for medicinal purposes. If you're doing it more for getting rid the stigma of cannabis for recreational use I still think it's not the best way.

I'm in an electric wheelchair, in possession of a legal prescription from a private pain clinic, and I'm using the medicine in a way that has been discussed with and agreed upon with both the specialist and pharmacy. I often use ice cooling due to covid scarring on the lungs. I took the big ice bong out that one time to break my own PTSD from prior arrests etc, and it worked. I now only take the mini globe bubbler out with me.

quote:

Kinda of like the image differences between someone sitting on a park bench sipping with a can of cider compared to sipping from a bottle of vodka. It has different conatasions.

And this comment highlights the stigma associated with cannabis use, and the stigma that I'm trying to break. Thanks. This is why I do what I do :420:

Hint: People aren't normally prescribed cans of cider or bottles of vodka by licensed medical specialists

Z the IVth posted:

There's also the stigma against smoking in general which is actually very good and needs to be reinforced constantly.

Just for the record, I don't smoke. I always vape.

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Jul 12, 2022

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

StarkingBarfish posted:

If its something formal like a captain Tom memorial bong yea. If its a big gently caress off glowing green alien bong maybe not.

Exactly! The fact it's a bong doesn't matter, it's the appearances.


Relatedly, my wife and I went to Amsterdam a couple weeks ago and it was incredibly disappointing how every coffeeshop (i.e. cannabis dispensary) adopted this certain aesthetic: dark, grungy, green lighting, street art, general "hehehe weed" vibe.

In portland, the vibe of weed dispensaries was more like an opticians. Clean, white, professional. It was a way better experience and definitely goes a long way to making cannabis seem more acceptable to the pearl clutching middle classes. Good luck finding that kinda place in Amsterdam though. If weed becomes legal here, I really hope the industry follows in Portland's style.


Cannabis has an image problem and even if you think that shouldn't matter, it does.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I always wondered if I'd have taken up smoking if my lungs weren't dogshit from childhood.

Either way I do love the smell of fresh second hand smoke. Once it's settled though it's nasty.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Even people like Lord Sugar who claims to have made his money selling Amsteads out of the back of a van - he's not smart, he just knew where he could find people he'd be able to sell the machines to and outsmart them into selling the machines with a large enough margin. Every single prick who found a way to get rich under capitalism did so by finding someone they could convince to part with their money.

This is broadly correct, but if you gave Alan Sugar your money, you at least got an Amstrad out of it. Crypto isn't a lovely scam because it's convincing people to part with their money, it's a lovely scam because it's not actually selling anything.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

keep punching joe posted:

Happy twelfth of July to all the Irish goons, top of the morning to you and tiocfaidh ár lá :guinness:

Congrats on pissing off BOTH sides at once. lol :downsbravo:

It's muggy with grey skies here in Northern Ireland, didn't hear a single Lambeg Drum last night and the local bonfire has been forbidden for some reason (probably fed up with them burning the trees, grass and the main road every year and it's a Loyalist council to boot).

Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Jul 12, 2022

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
Why are Labour pushing for this no confidence vote?

No-one is going to expect the Tories to vote for an election when they have no leader.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Didn't someone die recently building one of the bonfires? That sounded funny.

peanut- posted:

Why are Labour pushing for this no confidence vote?

No-one is going to expect the Tories to vote for an election when they have no leader.

Because Labour have the political instincts of a dead fish

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

peanut- posted:

Why are Labour pushing for this no confidence vote?

No-one is going to expect the Tories to vote for an election when they have no leader.

Because they’re idiots who don’t know what they’re doing. Their current leader is the architect of the 2019 ‘second referendum’ strategy, remember.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

peanut- posted:

Why are Labour pushing for this no confidence vote?

No-one is going to expect the Tories to vote for an election when they have no leader.

Its purely for appearance. They know it wont pass.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Excited to celebrate Prime Day by piling all my packaging in a big heap.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

Mega Comrade posted:

Its purely for appearance. They know it wont pass.

Yeah but it's obviously poo poo appearance. No-one is going to think it's unreasonable for the Tories to vote down a GE when they have no leader. If they were going to do this it needed to be on like, the day Sunak and Javid resigned - doing it now just looks like petty games.


Also, christ this country is mental
https://twitter.com/camillahmturner/status/1546793200978911232

Tigey
Apr 6, 2015

forkboy84 posted:

Do not let Tory MPs in to a class full of children

This was the one thing we didn't want to happen

Chinese Gordon
Oct 22, 2008

Really hope one of the more insane candidates makes it to the members vote. The frothing base are not going to pick Sunak over anyone who is explictly promising to enrich the rich, murder the poor and make being trans illegal. Not that any of those things are good, obviously, it's just that PM Truss/Braverman/Patel/Badenoch would be so incompetent and widely hated that it would destroy the Tories for a generation. Hopefully.

Probably not.

Oh well.

Chinese Gordon fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Jul 12, 2022

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Gendermen, you can't shite in here, this is the Culture War room!

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