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bike tory posted:Yeah sorry I worded that question poorly. I want to know how that behaves. The second one. Though, my P1 Gen 2 does very slowly discharge the battery while plugged in (this doesn't really seem intentional and is not consistent, but this laptop has had a number of weird quirks).
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bike tory posted:Yeah sorry I worded that question poorly. I want to know how that behaves. Yeah, my thought there is that given this laptop will spend most of its life on charger and rechargable batteries all tend to have a limited number of charge/discharge cycles I thought it would be best if the charger didn't kick back in until the battery had significantly discharged, vs. constantly starting and stopping charge to keep it at the highest possible charge state all the time. I don't know if this helps much but it seems like it might to me. Also as has been said lithium batteries tend to last a lot longer if they don't spend a long time at their maximum charge state, so if the average state of charge of the battery over its life is lower it might last longer. Also I'm not kidding when I said that the screen colour balance is hilariously bad from factory, it's so visibly off (kind orange-green). I've made sure it's not night-light or any of those annoying 'features' that make the screen seem more orange at night. So if you're looking to get a Lenovo with the standard 1920x1200 IPS screen for anything involving accurate colours count on having to make a new profile with a calibrator.
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https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000E-101E0 Lenovo IdeaPad 5 15.6" Touchscreen Full HD Intel core i7-1165G7 NVIDIA GeForce MX450 16GB RAM 512GB SSD Windows 11 Home Hey gang! I'm replacing my laptop and this one is pretty comparable to my old one. I'm only looking for a 15" touchscreen and 16 gb RAM, most everything else is kind of irrelevant or pertains to things I'm ignorant of. I am going to use this for school and some sound editing stuff. Is there any reason why I should avoid this, though?
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credburn posted:https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000E-101E0 Ideapad's are ok but I probably wouldn't spend $1000 on one. If its for school I would recommend something with touch capabilities, allows you to make annotations or notes right on the screen. If you do like that one, here's basically an equivalent from Lenovo direct on ebay for $500 https://www.ebay.com/itm/175278592107 If you're ok with 14" and have a costco by you, here's a flex for $550: https://www.costco.com/.product.100794995.html or Amazon for $610 https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09BG96KFJ If you really want 15", then the HP Envy x360 is a good choice, here's one specced out for under $1000 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-env...p?skuId=6452998 You can even customize one on HP's homepage and get it under $1000 pretty easy, looks like a listed ship date of late July (may be earlier).
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Has anyone had success undervolting their laptop? This is with an i5 8250U. It would be less for battery life, more for the heat output. I didn't have a great experience using XTU on my desktop. It seemed buggy. When I did an overclock the revert command didn't actually do what it was supposed to. The only way to undo it was to force a crash.
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Undervolt ought to work, highly dependent on how your processor was binned. I haven't done it in forever though I vaugely recall undervolting not being very sticky, windows or UEFI reverting changes after N event, usually a software or "bios" update Modern CPU run at pretty low voltages these days so there's a lot less headroom to make improvements than 10 years ago
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Rinkles posted:Has anyone had success undervolting their laptop? This is with an i5 8250U. I've been using Throttlestop on my laptop with an 8250u for ~3 years now. I just have it set to start minimized when Windows starts since the undervolt doesn't persist between boots. With that era of CPU you should be able to undervolt 60-110mv.
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Throttlestop works well for me, actually decreasea stuttering since the thermal management on my laptop sucks
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this is the first time I'm monitoring temperatures, and holy hell does it get hot (no voltage changes yet) sits around 60-70C when browsing with a twitch stream in the background, occasionally spiking to over 90C, even hitting the thermal limit at 98C
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Rinkles posted:this is the first time I'm monitoring temperatures, and holy hell does it get hot (no voltage changes yet) This is an 8250? That seems warm. I'm guessing it's 4-5 years old? You might have clogged fans or your CPU needs repasting
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Lockback posted:This is an 8250? That seems warm. I'm guessing it's 4-5 years old? You might have clogged fans or your CPU needs repasting Possibly, but I think Dell hosed up the thermal design because it's always been toasty. I've had it 3 years, I think (bought new). This is a 2 in 1 Inspiron.
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Lockback posted:Ideapad's are ok but I probably wouldn't spend $1000 on one. If its for school I would recommend something with touch capabilities, allows you to make annotations or notes right on the screen. If you do like that one, here's basically an equivalent from Lenovo direct on ebay for $500 I just picked up the Ryzen version of that HP Envy with a few lower specs for less than $500. Mine comes with 8GB of RAM but it looks pretty easy to upgrade, and if I really need more than a 256GB SSD in it then that seems replaceable, too. I figure I'll see how it feels with the lower RAM amount before committing to the upgrade, although knowing me I might pre-emptively order more RAM because I like having an excess (my desktop has 32GB).
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I generally think 13-14 inch devices are a good bet for school because they blend portability with actually being pleasant to use with a decent sized keyboard. I can't imagine the user experience being enjoyable with those low power windows machines. Combination of older CPU architecture, small RAM, and slow eMMC storage is really going to drag those machines down. A 400 dollar budget will buy you a massively more capable machine like this (or this -although I'd still want more than 4GB of ram in a windows machine). As for Chromebooks, Amazon is awash with a lot of older models (especially the celeron N3xxx models). Google only officially supports Chromebooks for so long and I personally would want to get the newest model available. I have this particular model which offers the performance of around a Celeron N4020/4500, but has an insane battery life (I get around 16 hours a charge). This is also a really solid deal for a Chromebook. This is actually really tempting to me even if I didn't already have the Acer. Those sub-200 dollar devices might cut it, I can't be sure. If all you're doing is opening a google docs page and typing away they could fulfill that role. You said you'd probably go for a Chromebook, will any of the classes require you to have a windows machine? Is that still a thing? Of the devices you linked, I think this one would be the only one I'd be comfortable with, the 14in HP chromebook with the N4120. Kind of a low resolution screen for a 14incher but that's the tradeoff I suppose. Looks like it has USB-C charging which is a definite bonus imo. https://www.amazon.com/HP-Chromebook-Graphics-Keyboard-14a-na0226nr/dp/B09SVSBVP1?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_D_eb5c7348_61&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER Mental Hospitality fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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i am an old fart but 100% of my meaningful experience is in windows and i know all my software works there, so chromebooks had no appeal to me really. it will be different as there are a ton of kids who have used chromeOS for education for awhile now due to broader school integration when they were younger.
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CoolCab posted:i am an old fart but 100% of my meaningful experience is in windows and i know all my software works there, so chromebooks had no appeal to me really. it will be different as there are a ton of kids who have used chromeOS for education for awhile now due to broader school integration when they were younger. There was no ChromeOS when I was in college so I have no way to determine how it would fair personally either. Hell, the computer I took to school ran WinXP, and it had wifi, which was just wild at the time. I'd probably take a windows machine if I were going back today as well, but I don't think the 200 dollar-ish machines would cut it personally. I'd want an actually SSD over eMMC and probably a pentium, i3, or ryzen 3 and if not 8gb of ram from the factory, an accessible dimm slot to upgrade it.
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For a generic workhorse laptop I would generally recommend just getting a refurbished Thinkpad T-series at whatever your budget will reach, like this one (you could probably do better, this is literally from just a 2 minute search). It's not super amazing but it'll do the same poo poo a chromebook at the same price point does, and also let you run windows software in case you need to, and also has relatively good quality construction. I guess the downside versus a chromebook is the battery life won't be great, but really, how much time are you going to be using a laptop not near a socket?
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If your budget can go up your options increase considerably. A Macbook Air is like a perfect school-machine in that you can run it all day and not have to plug in at all, and it can fit in any bag. But that's like ~$800.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I just picked up the Ryzen version of that HP Envy with a few lower specs for less than $500. Mine comes with 8GB of RAM but it looks pretty easy to upgrade, and if I really need more than a 256GB SSD in it then that seems replaceable, too. I figure I'll see how it feels with the lower RAM amount before committing to the upgrade, although knowing me I might pre-emptively order more RAM because I like having an excess (my desktop has 32GB). Is this the one you got? My wife has been limping along on a decade old laptop forever and needs to do work zoom calls next week, and would need to plug in an external mic to do so which is a problem since she uses the laptop while moving around 5 different rooms constantly. Nothing more taxing than zoom + office + web browser all at once https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-env...8&skuId=6502184 Any reason not to just grab this for $499+tax?
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Mental Hospitality posted:I generally think 13-14 inch devices are a good bet for school because they blend portability with actually being pleasant to use with a decent sized keyboard. Thank you very much for this, you helped me realize the crappy processors/storage in these was too much to deal with for $50 additional savings.
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roomforthetuna posted:For a generic workhorse laptop I would generally recommend just getting a refurbished Thinkpad T-series at whatever your budget will reach, like this one (you could probably do better, this is literally from just a 2 minute search). It's not super amazing but it'll do the same poo poo a chromebook at the same price point does, and also let you run windows software in case you need to, and also has relatively good quality construction. I guess the downside versus a chromebook is the battery life won't be great, but really, how much time are you going to be using a laptop not near a socket? Thank you very much for this, I researched refurbished ThinkPads and this is the model I want and it's the lowest price in Amazon's price history. It has quality construction/keyboard and a much better processor than the others on my shopping list. Hopefully the 90 day warranty doesn't bite me. FistEnergy fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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Still trying to figure out what laptop to get for my daughter. I have a $250 best buy gift card that would bring This this down to 1049. It seems like it'll handle most modern fps games well - the only thing I've found is it can get pretty hot when gaming. But she's likely to just leave it on her desk when she's gaming anyways. So, is there anything about this that makes this a bad deal at that price? Thanks.
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Frankenfinger posted:Still trying to figure out what laptop to get for my daughter. Nah, the Legion is pretty good, that's a decent price. The slim isn't ideal if your not really moving around with it but it's still pretty good. Depending on the desk a cooling pad might help but you probably won't need it.
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mastershakeman posted:Is this the one you got? My wife has been limping along on a decade old laptop forever and needs to do work zoom calls next week, and would need to plug in an external mic to do so which is a problem since she uses the laptop while moving around 5 different rooms constantly. Nothing more taxing than zoom + office + web browser all at once Yeah, that's the one. It's supposed to be delivered tomorrow so I'll have a better idea then, but just going from the specs the machine should have absolutely no problem doing the Zoom/Office/browser combo.
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Frankenfinger posted:Still trying to figure out what laptop to get for my daughter. If you can drop the overwatch requirement I'd say hands down m2 MacBook Air
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Hadlock posted:If you can drop the overwatch requirement I'd say hands down m2 MacBook Air I've been surprised the macbook handles more games than I thought, but if gaming is a use case I wouldn't count on mac at all.
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Lockback posted:I've been surprised the macbook handles more games than I thought, but if gaming is a use case I wouldn't count on mac at all. Yeah that’s an absurd recommendation for the use the poster described. I get that people like the laptop but come on. I think the Legion gets top marks for being able to handle games without being a chonk and/or turning into a loud inferno so that seems like a good deal.
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Frankenfinger posted:Still trying to figure out what laptop to get for my daughter. you dont want to use any laptop on your lap when running something intense as a video game, it will burn you. proper airflow, like on a desk and i think it should be okay. you will see that a lot of manufacturers are going away from the laptop name for that reason.
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Frankenfinger posted:Still trying to figure out what laptop to get for my daughter. That laptop would be fine, but it has been cheaper before. It used to regularly go to $1100 on sale. Best Buy might just be clearing out existing inventory though since it's about a year old now.
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Based on the benchmarks today, I would not rely on the M2 Macbook Air for anything that leans on the GPU for anymore than 2-3 minutes at a stretch.
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What would y'all reccomend for someone who is looking for a 2 in 1 laptop that is 11-14 inches, lightweight, extremely durable, and has a touch screen I could use a stylus on? I'd like to spend around 500, but I could be talked into more if it's a good deal. The use case would be to have a more traditional laptop alongside my steam deck, so I'm not worried about gaming. I'm going to be doing a bit of traveling, so I'd like it small and light for that, but I also want to tinker with some digital art, so something able to handle that would be great. I took a look at the prime day deals, and none of them jumped out at me, so I'm hoping ya'll might have some ideas. Even if there's no good deal now, I'd like to know what I should keep an eye on. I'm going to be traveling at the end of august, so I've got time if needed.
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Beast Pussy posted:What would y'all reccomend for someone who is looking for a 2 in 1 laptop that is 11-14 inches, lightweight, extremely durable, and has a touch screen I could use a stylus on? I'd like to spend around 500, but I could be talked into more if it's a good deal. This guy and at some point I'd get an extra 8GB of ram. I believe there is an open DIMM https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-env...p?skuId=6502184 Or from Costco: https://www.costco.com/.product.1588914.html Already 16GB but I like the x360 better with the better CPU and build quality, even if you gotta put in more ram.
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bull3964 posted:Based on the benchmarks today, I would not rely on the M2 Macbook Air for anything that leans on the GPU for anymore than 2-3 minutes at a stretch. can you link please
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Lockback posted:This guy and at some point I'd get an extra 8GB of ram. I believe there is an open DIMM I just popped down to the best buy to take a look at the HP, and it's enormous. I think I probably should've said 11-13 inches instead of 15. I saw this while I was there, how does this stack up against the costco one? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo...p?skuId=6502221 Beast Pussy fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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bike tory posted:can you link please https://youtu.be/gqYaqBVT5vM To be clear, it's still a good bit faster than the M1 version, but it does throttle pretty good compared to the M2 MBP after it heat soaks. Its sustained performance is about 15% slower than the 13" M2 MBP. It really sucks that they didn't update the chassis for the 13" MBP, because there is a clear advantage of active cooling if you are doing sustained tasks. The MBA chassis is thermally limited. Other thing to be aware of is storage is a lot slower if you go with the lower end 256 config as they went with a single chip SSD this time for 256. Here's the thing. The MBA M2 with 512gb storage that only has 8gb of RAM is $1499. The 512gb 14" M1 Pro MBP with 16gb of RAM is $200 off right now so it's only $1799. For that $300 you get much higher performance, ports, and mini-LED screen (along with double RAM.) Right now, it's hard to justify the new models with the discount on the old MBA and discounts on MBP 14". The entry M1 MBA is killer for $899 right now. Anyone will likely be happy with any of the machines, but I think the MBA M2 is a hard sell while the M1 MBA is still in stock.
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Gosh I feel so dumb. Please help this almost-hardware-illiterate out. I recently bought this HP Pavilion 15 Business Laptop Computer, 10th Gen Intel Core i5-1035G1, 15.6" HD IPS Touchscreen, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Win 10 Pro, Wi-Fi 5, Bluetooth, Webcam, B&O Audio, HDMI | 32GB USB Card. I already hate how much the screen reflects, the keyboard is atrocious, it's noisy and hot and I really just want to use my Thinkpad. But anyway, what's frustrating me right now is that I can't get it to 1920x1080 resolution. It's stuck at 1366x768. I updated the graphics drivers but it still won't get there. So I'm looking around and I'm seeing that HD may be different from FHD and the U in UHD means gently caress-all nothing, but the Amazon breakdown does indicate it can do 1920x1080 pixel resolution, so I don't know what the gently caress. Also: find the Intel graphics drivers from Intel's website took way more effort than one would think jfc
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Yeah I'm seeing one review from March saying it's not a full hd screen. Simplest explanation is really that the product information is wrong and the screen can't do 1080 at all. You should return it if at all possible.
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