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is there any way to help optimize stamina/resting usage? really hard to figure out if im killing myself once you start getting any stamina upgrades
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Jul 11, 2022 19:06
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Coworker of mine is doing an Idler as a side project, and this is the only place other than a really bad Reddit that I know to talk about Idlers. Anyone mind talking with a new goon about them and maybe trying things out in the future?
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Jul 11, 2022 22:59
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Do you ever get an improvement to the autosell? Like I'd rather not sell ALL my rice, just like, more than one stack of it. I just want to be able to grow enough rice passively to feed myself. Edit: I guess autoselling is the same as holding onto one per day since you buy and sell rice for the same cost. Falcon2001 fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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Jul 11, 2022 23:23
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protip: unless you're growing something significantly better than rice from several thousand farms you're wasting your time and money farming.
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Jul 11, 2022 23:53
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So I finally made progress in this, decided to spam begging for a few lives until I could afford the speed upgrade manual and the "jobs stay post death" manual, then turned pause on death off, set Odd Jobs 9 and Rest 1 and let it go for a few hours, it's not efficient but over many many lives it finally got all my base skills to where I actually have options at the start of a run.
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socialsecurity posted:So I finally made progress in this, decided to spam begging for a few lives until I could afford the speed upgrade manual and the "jobs stay post death" manual, then turned pause on death off, set Odd Jobs 9 and Rest 1 and let it go for a few hours, it's not efficient but over many many lives it finally got all my base skills to where I actually have options at the start of a run. That's basically what I do at the start of every ascension.
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Jul 12, 2022 00:25
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Also each and every reincarnation gives you one more day to your base lifespan, up to 70 years (from the original 30), and those added years are crucial to killing enough monsters to get the grade 16 gem for the Reinforce Meridians Ascension. Makes it a good plan to ascend just before bed/work so you can start fresh with 10k multipliers in all your base stats and a few extra years of lifespan when you can get back to actively playing!
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Jul 12, 2022 00:46
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Hughlander posted:Coworker of mine is doing an Idler as a side project, and this is the only place other than a really bad Reddit that I know to talk about Idlers. Anyone mind talking with a new goon about them and maybe trying things out in the future? Yeah when they have an alpha ready post it for sure. But also understand that this thread is filled with people who've played A LOT of these kinds of games. That means a lot of the feedback will help in avoiding the most common pitfalls when making an incremental game, but also that the criticism may be a lot more harsh than the reaction an ordinary person or the intended audience might have.
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SynthesisAlpha posted:Also each and every reincarnation gives you one more day to your base lifespan, up to 70 years (from the original 30), and those added years are crucial to killing enough monsters to get the grade 16 gem for the Reinforce Meridians Ascension. Makes it a good plan to ascend just before bed/work so you can start fresh with 10k multipliers in all your base stats and a few extra years of lifespan when you can get back to actively playing! I was wondering what the deal was. I'm up to 233 years on life 214, and my math is showing I need around 250 years lifespan to get to grade 16, as grade 13 gems start dropping at about year 240 (2^13*10 days) Guess I need to self destruct for a little while. Edit: Pyromania + auto-buying land is a good way to last 7 days in the world. This shouldn't take long at all! This would be a weird chapter in a book about this character's life. Edit: I think my math's off or something, maybe hunting is screwing me over? Edit... again: New ability to get more lifespan, should finally be able to get this stupid grade 16 gem. Dr. Arbitrary fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jul 12, 2022 |
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:This would be a weird chapter in a book about this character's life.
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In Immortal how do you do more advanced stuff at the start? The only things i can do is Odd Job and Begging. I have unlocked the first 3 books so things go fast. Am i meant to just use the auto rebirth to grind multipliers with Odd Job or have i missed a method to start out with being avle to do more advanced stuff?
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Ineptitude posted:In Immortal how do you do more advanced stuff at the start? It's the first but the best way to blow out your skill multipliers is to go all in on alchemy. Have a couple of days of fishing because Alchemy only increases water lore (the alchemy skill that increases your likelihood of producing a potion from herbs) when you successfully produce a potion. Eventually, you'll be producing a tonne of potions which produce more potions which all boost your skills and then longevity pills which blow out your lifespan which makes it easier to tack on a few skill increasing jobs to your schedule. You'll also get a boat load of cash which you can spend on house upgrades that boost your skill acquisition.
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Evolve chat: I've pillared once so far, just with my custom race. 16k plasmids, 3.2k antiplasmids, 16 dark energy, 33 harmony crystals. Dark energy farming doesn't seem to be even remotely worth it, so I haven't bothered. I'm about to start my final Technophobe run in antimatter. After that, I'm going to do truepath (not in antimatter). For pillaring, I assume the general approach is: Find a nice planet in heavy universe 0* ascend with custom for the bonus Do a 4* pillar ascension with each genus, inheriting slaver from my custom race every time At some point when I get bored with ascensions, start pushing for the next reset tier? I haven't touched the inflation or ooze scenarios, and I haven't done any of the valdi feats like bioseeding.
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Dang, dying repeatedly to increment your base lifespan for an evening certainly trivializes the time management aspect of Immortality Idle. Having 500+ years from a fresh Ascension lets you quickly slam through the first few breakpoints, jump into lucrative alchemy and blaze your way towards cultivating your body enough so you can keep winning battles when looking for trouble. Is there anything more beyond ever-rising requirements for Ascensions or actions after Infuse Body?
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It caps at 70 for death spamming now if you refresh, it's on v 1.0.16
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:Evolve chat: I'm not doing that yet, but that's exactly what I would do if I was pushing it. There's at least one person in the discord who has done everything the last time I checked, so it might be worthwhile to ask there. ImmortalityIdle: what's the best way to increase spirituality apart from the prayer shrine? I feel like there's some way that I've overlooked.
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Chakan posted:discord ... so it might be worthwhile to ask there. I'm a weird old person who has a visceral hatred of discord and has no desire to actually be involved in a chatroom about a game. I miss IRC. Why yes, I am turning 40 this week, why do you ask?
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Chakan posted:ImmortalityIdle: what's the best way to increase spirituality apart from the prayer shrine? I feel like there's some way that I've overlooked. Randomly stumbling onto a follower that trains that (unlocked after Ascending each of the three ways??). Be warned they are not cheap and will bust in on your early reincarnations after about 50 years (or having a nice enough home/Charisma?) to drain your money away.
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:I'm a weird old person who has a visceral hatred of discord and has no desire to actually be involved in a chatroom about a game. I'm 38 and also grew up with IRC but warmed up to discord a few years ago and it's really pretty great. You can also make the chat look exactly like IRC if you want. As long as you immediately mute whatever server you join, it's pretty seamless.
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Chakan posted:ImmortalityIdle: what's the best way to increase spirituality apart from the prayer shrine? I feel like there's some way that I've overlooked. Body and Mind cultivation and Meditation all have a small chance to increase spirituality. The prayer shrine will give you the most spirituality until you hit 100k though. 100k spirituality will change meditation to give you guaranteed spirituality gains.
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How do you get the spirit gems for ascension? I'm just seeing like lvl 5 and gently caress that
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Look for Trouble and killing the monsters that appear. Get high enough stats on your body and your weapons and you can one-hit kill your way to those thresholds.
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131 monsters for auto hunting.
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I started NGU Idle a few weeks ago and have been at the T4/unmentionable wall for a couple days. Just out of curiosity, how often are there walls like this in the game? I'm actually kind of enjoying the long, methodical pace of building up to the next challenge, but it's definitely a whole lot slower than start-to-T3 (which in hindsight feels like a sprint.)
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Scrree posted:I started NGU Idle a few weeks ago and have been at the T4/unmentionable wall for a couple days. Just out of curiosity, how often are there walls like this in the game? I'm actually kind of enjoying the long, methodical pace of building up to the next challenge, but it's definitely a whole lot slower than start-to-T3 (which in hindsight feels like a sprint.) After a while it just turns into a play once a day sort of game for 15 minutes and then come back tomorrow. The zone progress slows down, but by all accounts the early game moves quickly enough to get you into having lots of features to mess around with early and often.
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Scrree posted:I started NGU Idle a few weeks ago and have been at the T4/unmentionable wall for a couple days. Just out of curiosity, how often are there walls like this in the game? I'm actually kind of enjoying the long, methodical pace of building up to the next challenge, but it's definitely a whole lot slower than start-to-T3 (which in hindsight feels like a sprint.) There are several. It is well worth it, cannot recommend it enough.
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Immortality Idle, is there a system for automatically consuming potions at any point?
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i think it's the million-tael book that's for sale in the manuals shop (next to the settings cog)
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:i think it's the million-tael book that's for sale in the manuals shop (next to the settings cog) Ah, I don't have it available yet. Good to know I won't be shift clicking them forever!
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oh hey there's been an update with a dollar sign next to each job that tells you how much you made from it last time you performed it
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"Earning ascension in multiple universes and with more challenges active will grant you more design points to build a better custom race with." Does this include Micro? Similarly, does Technophobe also care about being completed in Micro?
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another quick immortalityidle thing - looking at the code, it seems that woodworking and leatherworking only ever have a max 1% chance to produce something and boost your lore skills. alchemy and blacksmithing have better success rates as you go through journeyman, "own a shop", and whatever the last tier is. i might be wrong on this, but if not, if you want to be a good woodworker and unlock the "woodwork without apprenticeship" achievment, spend a few lives grinding alchemy.
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Cultivation Idle: I can't finish the Blacksmith Training (stuck on Journeyman) in my "standard", 30 years life, and going into Alchemy for Longevity pills seems to lock out other professions. What is the threshold for completing the apprenticeship? Just high enough numbers on relevant stats? Second question: Is there any way to increase Stamina? I get knocked out with a single Body or Mind cultivation. Third: Is there any reason to get Establish Bloodline past level 1?
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Fat Samurai posted:Cultivation Idle: I can't finish the Blacksmith Training (stuck on Journeyman) in my "standard", 30 years life, and going into Alchemy for Longevity pills seems to lock out other professions. What is the threshold for completing the apprenticeship? Just high enough numbers on relevant stats? 1. You have to grind the Alchemy profession for high enough aptitudes that your starting stats let you go straight into Alchemy. Just spend a life or two solely on training Alchemy and also spend at least a few hundred million taels on land for peaches to eat for an extra 72 years and this should be easy. 2. Hunting and Fishing have a chance of meat and carp, respectively, which both increase stamina. So just do those for a while and set your character up to eat both of them, you'll get plenty of stamina.
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Any time you do hunting, make sure you have the kennel equipped. It dramatically increases the amount of meat you get. Fishing seems like a real waste. The only upside is that it can't spawn a wolf, so you don't lose out on gems, but the recent updates seem to make that less of an issue. Leatherworking and woodworking got updates, they're not totally worthless anymore!
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:1. You have to grind the Alchemy profession for high enough aptitudes that your starting stats let you go straight into Alchemy. Just spend a life or two solely on training Alchemy and also spend at least a few hundred million taels on land for peaches to eat for an extra 72 years and this should be easy. Sorry, badly explained: I go into Alchemy straight up, until I'm 40 or so, with 100 years from alchemy and 70 from food, so 200 years max lifespan, and then slam dunk Journeyman Blacksmithing full time, not even a single day of rest. 170 years later I'm a very old, very tired Journeyman Blacksmith and die in my Palace, regretting the day I decided to wield a hammer. It's annoying because literally every other profession I can see I have managed to master. Do I need some Earth Lore or something?
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KazigluBey posted:"Earning ascension in multiple universes and with more challenges active will grant you more design points to build a better custom race with." Yes and yes. It's one of the few exceptions for micro mattering. As a sidenote micro is also really good for farming blood stones. Rynoto fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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Fat Samurai posted:Sorry, badly explained: I go into Alchemy straight up, until I'm 40 or so, with 100 years from alchemy and 70 from food, so 200 years max lifespan, and then slam dunk Journeyman Blacksmithing full time, not even a single day of rest. 170 years later I'm a very old, very tired Journeyman Blacksmith and die in my Palace, regretting the day I decided to wield a hammer. how much time have you spent burning stuff? requirements per level are: 
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:how much time have you spent burning stuff? Ok, it was the combo of Metal and Fire lore what I was missing. Thanks!
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