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There Bias Two posted:Er...we already have languages entirely communicated via movement. Your examples could definitely fall under the umbrella of language. Are you assuming language is verbal by definition? No, I'm not assuming language to be verbal. I was just trying to give a jumping-off point to try and imagine a civilization without language. There are movement-based languages, but they are exclusive to humans. There are also plenty of verbal signaling and communication methods among animals that are not language. There are more species on this planet who use technology (chimps spear-hunting, tool use among ravens) than there are species that use language (just us). To assume that technological civilization cannot exist without language is leaning too hard on our sample size of 1. So when we are looking for radio signals from other civilizations, we are making a lot of huge assumptions about what other civilizations would look like. So the fact that we aren't finding this very specific type of evidence doesn't really say much about what may or may not be out there.
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LanceHunter posted:No, I'm not assuming language to be verbal. I was just trying to give a jumping-off point to try and imagine a civilization without language. There are movement-based languages, but they are exclusive to humans. There are also plenty of verbal signaling and communication methods among animals that are not language. Pretty sure dolphins have a language, considering they name each other. Also they use tools.
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Popoto posted:Pretty sure dolphins have a language, considering they name each other. Also they use tools. I mean it does sort of gets into what's the level of complexity of mutually understood communication system that is considered a language. I'm pretty sure depending on field of study, and just the person studying them, this will probably have very different answers.
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Popoto posted:It could measure to find water in the atmosphere of an earth-like planet that's inside the habitable zone of a calm star. That would be huge. I was looking at the scheduled research time during cycle 1 and a LOT of telescope time is being devoted to looking at various exoplanet atmospheres. Not necessarily specifically earth likes and looking for evidence of biochemistry, but a lot of interest in smaller(sub neptune) exo planets and their atmospheres. Exoplanet observation in general was the largest category from what I could tell.
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LanceHunter posted:No, I'm not assuming language to be verbal. I was just trying to give a jumping-off point to try and imagine a civilization without language. There are movement-based languages, but they are exclusive to humans. There are also plenty of verbal signaling and communication methods among animals that are not language. Counterpoint language is imperfect and imprecise and any 'advanced' culture surely would evolve technological or biological feats beyond the need for one
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This is why we beam prime numbers all over the place lmfao.
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This is incredible because you can actually see the changes over the 20+ years to some of the structures as well Granted, 20 years in universe time might as well be a picosecond but it's still really cool to see!
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The Voyager record is just a 65-year-old man saying "Do. You. Speak. English?" progressively louder and over-enunciated for an hour.
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GolfHole posted:This is why we beam prime numbers all over the place lmfao. Honestly we should beam out dick and T&A pics and just see what happens imho.
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Captain Invictus posted:you mother FUCKER  Also, Falkor’s snout is pointing toward huge pig balls.  
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Lawman 0 posted:Honestly we should beam out dick and T&A pics and just see what happens imho. iirc we actually do A copy of the Vitruvian Man is on Voyager I I think and we may send this out as well (I don' t know if we have yet) I guess  for pixelated penis and breastshttps://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.c...-00055-g014.jpg
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:The Voyager record is just a 65-year-old man saying "Do. You. Speak. English?" progressively louder and over-enunciated for an hour. Made me do a spit take. And he's doing it in an overtly patronising tone.
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I hope whatever alien civilization may come across the Voyager golden record has a blast listening to it should they decipher how to play it. Because El Cascabel is a total banger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkKxN9QJ2wI
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Lawman 0 posted:Honestly we should beam out dick and T&A pics and just see what happens imho. Do you WANT horny aliens?! Because that’s how you get horny aliens.
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There's a reason people go to space. And now they don't even do that. Its because they are cowards The real poo poo is the depths of the sea.
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BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:Do you WANT horny aliens?! 👉👈 maybe?
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Alien language chat reminded me of this video from pursuit of wonder "A short, fictional story about three different species, all in the same place, and none of them aware of each other. " TL:DW - Language don't mean poo poo if you can't even perceive the thing you're trying to talk to
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Seth Pecksniff posted:iirc we actually do Lol, these idiots just send aliens detailed drawings of where our most important and vulnerable body part is and where they can unload their massive laser canons
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tazer balls, from space
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GABA ghoul posted:Lol, these idiots just send aliens detailed drawings of where our most important and vulnerable body part is and where they can unload their massive laser canons fun fact its censored by the us government the original vagina had lips even aliens have been brainwashed by the CIA tmyk
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“Ultimate Space Telescope” documentary premieres tonight on PBS & Youtube at 9PM EDT if you can't get enough of Webb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaRpTGFe1_k
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GolfHole posted:fun fact its censored by the us government Well yeah we can't let ET know there's pussy on this planet
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GolfHole posted:fun fact its censored by the us government drat they gonna be pissed when they get here. They thought they’d finally found the lipless pussies prophesied in the Ancient Texts but they came all this way for nothing 
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aliens could use their advanced medical technology to provide free MTF surgery for any human who wants it, as long as you’re ok getting a lipless seems like a win win to me
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:The Voyager record is just a 65-year-old man saying "Do. You. Speak. English?" progressively louder and over-enunciated for an hour. “Speak American or go home. Love it or leave it.”
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GolfHole posted:fun fact its censored by the us government But it turned out there wasn't as much prudishness around as they thought and they probably could've gotten away with it. Of course, a few members of the public were mad about it anyway. Carl Sagan talked about this in The Cosmic Connection.
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Did I understand right in the July 12 event that they said they'd be unveiling new science/photos on a weekly basis? If so JWST just became my favorite TV show. I can't wait to see mind-blowing new discoveries while watching NASA learn how to use YouTube.
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BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:Do you WANT horny aliens?! Like how horny we talkin? I got poo poo to do but I mean.. 
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smoobles posted:Did I understand right in the July 12 event that they said they'd be unveiling new science/photos on a weekly basis? If so JWST just became my favorite TV show. I can't wait to see mind-blowing new discoveries while watching NASA learn how to use YouTube. Next week, on JWST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqT_eYDhfRg
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Should've added more dickes and buttes to our drawings we sent into space, no takesies backsies, now we'll have aliens a billion years from now wondering why an ancient extinct civilization sent pics of their vagineless selves
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More nebulae, more universes, more empty space and evidence that we are infinitely small. What were they expecting really? Not impressed.
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Aishlinn posted:
What does space smell like?
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toggle posted:What does space smell like? https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-07/what-does-space-smell/
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The moon smells like exploded firecrackers. Most of the space stations smell like your garage.
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Sorry if a repost, but it looks like Webb took some pics of Jupiter https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/james-webb-telescope-team-releases-images-of-our-solar-system-showing-jupiter-and-its-moon-3157982 
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Bula Vinaka posted:The moon smells like exploded firecrackers. Pretty sure it in fact actually smells like your bum (anus) 
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Could the imaging team not eliminate the diffraction spikes entirely with multiple exposures taken at slight rotation from each other? I.e., take one exposure, then rotate the entire craft 7.5°, take the same exposure again, and then end up with two images of the same field with diffraction spikes rotated 7.5° off-axis from the previous exposure, which can then be stacked to eliminate the differences between the two exposures, thereby eliminating BOTH sets of diffraction spikes in the process?
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