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OddObserver posted:
As a Roegadyn I enjoyed this quest for the opposite reason. We were the Biggest Squad.
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Onean posted:The biggest offender is probably the second Sohm Al boss, Myath. Notifying what exactly the red and blue slimes/markers do (stack for red, run away for blue) on that fight would probably be the most helpful. This is the HW dungeon change I want the most. I get that dungeon from LDR like once a month and never remember which color is which; modern stack/spread would be a godsend. Modern tankbuster markers in more old dungeons will also be pretty great, since playing Crap, Which One Is The Buster? in dungeons I don't remember always feels really stupid.
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Jul 13, 2022 04:34
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The tankbuster is the one with a name that sounds like it would hurt the most
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Jul 13, 2022 04:43
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Regy Rusty posted:The tankbuster is the one with a name that sounds like it would hurt the most Shout out to a few bosses having busters that are just "Critical Hit"
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Jul 13, 2022 04:45
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Regy Rusty posted:The tankbuster is the one with a name that sounds like it would hurt the most Not always, but elaborating on my statement is not a topic for where this thread is at right now.
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Jul 13, 2022 04:47
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On all the modern (which I guess would be Stormblood and later?) bosses the first three things the boss casts are its raidwide, its tankbuster, and some aoe target attack, not necessarily in that order, just to teach you their names
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dude789 posted:As a Roegadyn I enjoyed this quest for the opposite reason. We were the Biggest Squad. 
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Jul 13, 2022 06:05
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Regy Rusty posted:The tankbuster is the one with a name that sounds like it would hurt the most "Right, Intestinal Crank is the tank bust- ah, wait, this boss doesn't have one, whoops." Of course, it's a dungeon boss, so using a cooldown out of place isn't going to kill me unless things have already gone sideways.  And by that point I've finally remembered the mechanics.
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Jul 13, 2022 06:25
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Regy Rusty posted:The tankbuster is the one with a name that sounds like it would hurt the most It always gets me when fighting Ultima Weapon that Tank Purge isn't a tankbuster
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Jul 13, 2022 07:11
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No it's when the Weapon goes and dumps a load of flaming ceruleum on your face if you're in melee range.
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Jul 13, 2022 07:17
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Meanwhile in FF7R (It's a... line AOE.)
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Jul 13, 2022 07:36
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I mean many tankbusters in XIV are lines/cones. It checks out.
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Jul 13, 2022 07:48
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SirSamVimes posted:I mean many tankbusters in XIV are lines/cones. It checks out. Cone ones are pretty mean if a tank isn't... y'know... expecting it. Very first time I tanked an on-content trial was the first SHB boss. And uh... it decided to use its conal cleaving tankbuster while I was dragging it back to middle after having to move (and bring the boss with) for a mechanic. I felt awful for those 6 and a half corpses on my hands. Fortunately since I'd admitted I was a fresh-to-current tank they didn't hold it against me. Needless to say I was being vague because this is the STB thread not the SHB thread, but current players probably know the exact mech combo.
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Jul 13, 2022 08:25
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Qwertycoatl posted:It always gets me when fighting Ultima Weapon that Tank Purge isn't a tankbuster It's at least a little funny that in OG and revamped Ultima Weapon, Tank Purge is a fairly weak raid wide but in min ilvl synched HM and Unreal, it'll instantly nuke halt of everybody's max hp.
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So, something neat my brother caught, when you do ultima weapon its very likely to be the first time it was even possible to do lb3 for a newbie. There are no 8 man fights preceeding it so for a newbie it may feel like lb3 "unlocks" at that point, even if mechanically this is untrue.
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Jul 13, 2022 12:42
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Thundarr posted:It's at least a little funny that in OG and revamped Ultima Weapon, Tank Purge is a fairly weak raid wide but in min ilvl synched HM and Unreal, it'll instantly nuke halt of everybody's max hp. Tank Purge is also in The Weapon's Refrain where it'll do considerably more than half your HP. I believe the UWU Tank Purges are barely survivable at full health though, making them less severe raidwides compared to the elemental ones that hit for just slightly more than your entire healthbar, and the two Ultima casts that hit for roughly five times your healthbar. Ultimates: they teach you where your mitigation buttons are. Zoig posted:So, something neat my brother caught, when you do ultima weapon its very likely to be the first time it was even possible to do lb3 for a newbie. There are no 8 man fights preceeding it so for a newbie it may feel like lb3 "unlocks" at that point, even if mechanically this is untrue. No 8-mans before then? A blatant case of guildhest erasure. Not that you get LB3 in that one 8-man guildhest, but its continued existence means there may in fact be multiple sprouts who did an 8-man before Porta Decumana.
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Jul 13, 2022 13:23
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Many people have never done guildheists.
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Jul 13, 2022 13:33
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I have never done the last guildhests
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Jul 13, 2022 13:45
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Xerophyte posted:Not that you get LB3 in that one 8-man guildhest, but its continued existence means there may in fact be multiple sprouts who did an 8-man before Porta Decumana. Do you get it if you wait long enough or do guildhests just not have a limit break bar?
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Jul 13, 2022 13:46
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Qwertycoatl posted:Do you get it if you wait long enough or do guildhests just not have a limit break bar? It's not a boss fight so it doesn't go to lb3, just 2.
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Jul 13, 2022 13:55
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Xerophyte posted:No 8-mans before then? A blatant case of guildhest erasure. Out of everybody who has cleared FFXIV 2.0, there are probably dozens who did the full party guildhest before Ultima Weapon. Dozens!
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Jul 13, 2022 13:59
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Kwyndig posted:No it's when the Weapon goes and dumps a load of flaming ceruleum on your face if you're in melee range. No, Tank Purge is a raidwide. The short range pulse just happens sometimes.
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Jul 13, 2022 17:10
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I did the guildhests because an FC-mate needed help knocking them out to unlock mentor roulette, and I strongly suspect more people have run them to unlock MR than have ever run them and needed mentoring
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Jul 14, 2022 03:57
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I don't think the game ever directed me towards doing guildheists and when I noticed them at level 70 or so I wasn't in a hurry to do training content for 1310 exp.
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SMaster777 posted:Cone ones are pretty mean if a tank isn't... y'know... expecting it. Very first time I tanked an on-content trial was the first SHB boss. And uh... it decided to use its conal cleaving tankbuster while I was dragging it back to middle after having to move (and bring the boss with) for a mechanic. I felt awful for those 6 and a half corpses on my hands. Fortunately since I'd admitted I was a fresh-to-current tank they didn't hold it against me. I feel like dragging the boss back to the middle is usually unnecessary. I try to minimise boss movement as much as possible, really.
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Jul 14, 2022 04:39
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Antivehicular posted:I did the guildhests because an FC-mate needed help knocking them out to unlock mentor roulette, and I strongly suspect more people have run them to unlock MR than have ever run them and needed mentoring I can just see it now. Guildhest roulette pops. It's two people queuing specifically for them to unlock mentor roulette, someone pulled there by mentor roulette, and the fourth guy queued for them as a joke.
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Ibblebibble posted:I feel like dragging the boss back to the middle is usually unnecessary. I try to minimise boss movement as much as possible, really. Depends on the fight but yeah generally I try to be predictable. Usually if I'm moving a boss it's because I know the next mechanic wants people standing somewhere specific and if I make them follow the boss there now nobody will tunnel-vision miss it later.
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YggiDee posted:I don't think the game ever directed me towards doing guildheists and when I noticed them at level 70 or so I wasn't in a hurry to do training content for 1310 exp. I think I got pointed to the guildhests on my first character Back In The Day. Either that or I just did them out of a sense of completeness.
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I queued for them way back in the day before I actually knew about Mentor Roulette, but mostly it was because I wanted to know just how many of them there actually were. I don't know that I've ever been back in the later ones since Obama was president, including through the roulette.
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I’ve been getting the last one a lot lately… because yes I do them pretty regularly. I know they’re not really that useful or lucrative but they’re pretty easy content to squeeze in before your Well Fed buff runs out and it’s Break Time.
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If I have a job close to leveling up but have run out of other things I feel like doing, every so often I'll do three guildhests for the challenge log (never 10 though). At least it's easy. I should probably unlock more than three of them so I get something other than the turtle.
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I did guildhest roulette a couple of days ago because I was almost at a levelup. I didn't get the levelup.
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Qwertycoatl posted:I did guildhest roulette a couple of days ago because I was almost at a levelup. I didn't get the levelup. That was my suggestion, I’m sorry. Though there is nothing more satisfying than hitting 90 with a guildhest.
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Dedekind posted:That was my suggestion, I’m sorry. You sound like someone who hasn't hit 90 by exploring a map region
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Qwertycoatl posted:You sound like someone who hasn't hit 90 by exploring a map region Leaving maps unexplored long enough to be available when hitting 90 shakes me to my completionist core.
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Dedekind posted:Leaving maps unexplored long enough to be available when hitting 90 shakes me to my completionist core. 
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Zoig posted:So, something neat my brother caught, when you do ultima weapon its very likely to be the first time it was even possible to do lb3 for a newbie. There are no 8 man fights preceeding it so for a newbie it may feel like lb3 "unlocks" at that point, even if mechanically this is untrue. One would hope. I think most new players forget about LBs. I've watched at least one new sprout not fire the LB3 off despite being prompted by the party.
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I think part of the problem is that Limit Break doesn’t seem like it’s automatically added to any of your hotbars. It took me a while to find the action for it and put it on my all purpose hotbar. Of course, I have no idea how different it would be if I played with keyboard and mouse instead of a controller, and also I may be stupid.
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Ran Rannerson posted:I think part of the problem is that Limit Break doesn’t seem like it’s automatically added to any of your hotbars. It took me a while to find the action for it and put it on my all purpose hotbar. You have to go looking for it with KB+M too
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Yeah they never actually put the Limit Break on your hotbar. Sure they'll put the button that opens the Lodestone in a browser window, but they won't put Limit Break on there.
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