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Oh my god yessss
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Jul 13, 2022 21:32
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i think that's quite bad (unless other cards enable the archetype) but very annoying for the opponent
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Jul 13, 2022 21:34
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Hilarious, but not at all good unless some really absurd synergy gets printed.
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Jul 13, 2022 21:37
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bad card much like renathal
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Jul 13, 2022 22:07
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Luff posted:
4/3 for 3 with a targeted semi-discard effect seems extremely strong to me but I guess a lot depends on the quality of rogue secrets on offer, and what the odds are of being able to play one on curve and have it stick around for a turn. edit: Dev confirmed on reddit you only get to pick from one of 3 randomly selected cards. Kind of baffling they didn't use Star Student Selina's templating: "Look at 3 cards in your opponent's hand. Shuffle one of them into their deck." goferchan fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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Jul 13, 2022 22:08
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Firebert posted:
Instant gold craft. In Wild I'm going to play this followed by a ton of copied cards. It won't win me games but by god it'll be hilarious.
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Jul 13, 2022 22:19
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Gwaint posted:Instant gold craft. In Wild I'm going to play this followed by a ton of copied cards. I've always wanted to play a viable mill deck in HS (I started after mill rogue was a thing). Between this, Selfish Shellfish, and Whirlpool it looks like Priest can make it happen.
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Jul 13, 2022 22:41
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good or not im having fun with renothal DH ### Renothal Demon Hunter # Class: Demon Hunter # Format: Wild # # 1x (1) Consume Magic # 1x (1) Crimson Sigil Runner # 1x (1) Dreadprison Glaive # 1x (1) Illidari Studies # 1x (1) Mana Burn # 1x (1) Sigil of Alacrity # 1x (1) Sir Finley, Sea Guide # 1x (1) Trueaim Crescent # 1x (1) Tuskpiercer # 1x (1) Twin Slice # 1x (1) Vicious Slitherspear # 1x (2) Cult Neophyte # 1x (2) Dirty Rat # 1x (2) Far Watch Post # 1x (2) Fel Barrage # 1x (2) Felfire Deadeye # 1x (2) Fossil Fanatic # 1x (2) Spectral Sight # 1x (2) Zephrys the Great # 1x (3) Acrobatics # 1x (3) Archdruid Naralex # 1x (3) Crushclaw Enforcer # 1x (3) Felrattler # 1x (3) Lady S'theno # 1x (3) Predation # 1x (3) Prince Renathal # 1x (3) Rustrot Viper # 1x (3) Zola the Gorgon # 1x (4) Blademaster Okani # 1x (4) Flanking Maneuver # 1x (4) Glide # 1x (4) Lorekeeper Polkelt # 1x (4) Razorglaive Sentinel # 1x (4) School Teacher # 1x (5) Loatheb # 1x (5) Need for Greed # 1x (6) Kurtrus, Demon-Render # 1x (6) Reno Jackson # 1x (6) Skull of Gul'dan # 1x (7) Xhilag of the Abyss # AAEBAdKLBSj6Dt/EAvyjA+C8A9nGA9TIA/LJA+HOA4vVA/nVA/bWA9neA/PjA5DkA/foA/3tA6/vA8jvA4n3A4r3A9D5A8iABIeLBISNBPiUBKaVBLOgBLSgBOWwBISyBIiyBMeyBJa3BJi6BPu/BP6/BMDKBJbUBJrUBJfvBAAA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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Jul 13, 2022 22:46
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gently caress that card. It also takes the minion from their side of the board if you play the copy. God, bring back res priest.
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Jul 13, 2022 22:47
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 This was really silly. Sad I didn't get the 40 damage hit out of it.
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Jul 13, 2022 22:58
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Luff posted:
uhh, you get to see their entire hand and pick a card to discard? That's a loving Thoughtseize, wtf this is nutty fake edit: goferchan posted:4/3 for 3 with a targeted semi-discard effect seems extremely strong to me but I guess a lot depends on the quality of rogue secrets on offer, and what the odds are of being able to play one on curve and have it stick around for a turn. This is one of the worst things about this game, where the text on the card doesn't do what it says it should do because it's not pretty enough to fit in the text box.
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Jul 13, 2022 23:02
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Firebert posted:
I can't wait for Dane to build a deck with this, Benedictus, Bloodweaver and Auctioneer and steal an opponent's entire deck.
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Jul 14, 2022 01:35
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They did make a burgle secret card
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Luff posted:They did make a burgle secret card Now every class in wild has a chance of getting Ice block!
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Jul 14, 2022 02:50
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 this seems unbelievably broken, one of the strongest 2 drops ever made even disregarding infuse?
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Jul 14, 2022 02:53
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The Dormant is really messing with my ability to actually judge the power level of that card. The set of Dormant-1 units with Rush means I can assume this card's going to be at minimum really good, but I can't tell if it actually goes all the way to broken. It is funny that Hunter gets two separate sets of __ Companions inspired by Animal Companion this expansion, though.
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Jul 14, 2022 03:15
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Firebert posted:
I can't really evaluate this. Like obviously the text on Stag Spirit is nuts but assuming you're playing on curve, you spend your second turn playing a vanilla 2/2 for 2, which already leaves you behind curve, then completely skip your third turn for a payoff that doesn't happen for 3 more turns. That said I haven't really played Hunter this expansion so maybe this fills a niche I don't understand, and I know the consistent flexibility from discovering between 3 options is valuable. edit: Lol I completely misread this, sorry, "summon a random dormant wildseed" is cleary way different than "discover one". Now I'm even more confused about how good it is to be honest. Obviously you lose the flexibility of picking the one you need for the occasion but I think you're still getting pretty good value no matter what you roll. Card is probably pretty good goferchan fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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Jul 14, 2022 07:00
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The stag is strong but 3 turns is a long rear end time By the way apparently it’s not the only Hunter card that summons Wildseeds, guess that’s their gimmick
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Jul 14, 2022 07:10
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more cards 
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Jul 14, 2022 11:28
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The opponent's discover for Suspicious Alchemist happens at the start of their turn.
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Jul 14, 2022 11:31
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 Huh. This is pretty nuts in wild with Malchezar's Imp and discard synergy but it doesn't do much in standard.
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Jul 14, 2022 12:58
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The opponent's discover for Suspicious Alchemist happens at the start of their turn. yeah same for the Suspicious Usher seems we have a cycle of those cards If they print a card that reduces the Dormant timers on the wildseeds that Poacher card will be absolutely nuts Excelzior fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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Jul 14, 2022 14:19
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oh no another Kael'thas  minions make it much harder to abuse but come on.... e: skelly mage finisher...Kaelthas, Brann, Kelthuzad Excelzior fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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Jul 14, 2022 14:50
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 Probably pretty drat good in DH but I've been looking forward to playing Evolve Shaman and I think we found the moneyshot 
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Jul 14, 2022 15:54
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 Oh this got revealed too. Yeah that's definitely a good card for DH lol
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Jul 14, 2022 15:58
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goferchan posted:
odd DH support? neat.
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Jul 14, 2022 15:58
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RatHat posted:
Going to make fun Trolden videos with Tiny Knight of Evil
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Jul 14, 2022 16:01
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 That's a pretty fun turn 9 imo
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Jul 14, 2022 16:01
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also usable to double up Denathrius on 10 mana
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Jul 14, 2022 16:05
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You would think that after it turned out to be a horrible idea every single previous time they did it, they would learn to stop printing cards like that.
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Jul 14, 2022 16:19
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fun idea for priests Void-touched attendant, kaelthas, brann, denathrius (assuming it counts "starting with itself") quad denathrius
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Jul 14, 2022 16:23
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Bremen posted:You would think that after it turned out to be a horrible idea every single previous time they did it, they would learn to stop printing cards like that. Whaddya mean? Iteration ftw 
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Jul 14, 2022 16:50
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Bremen posted:You would think that after it turned out to be a horrible idea every single previous time they did it, they would learn to stop printing cards like that. To be fair at least you're limited by slots on the board with this guy, there's not really a way to go infinite like old Kael'Thas. Still a strong effect though especially in standard with Brann (and yeah, new Kael'Thas does count itself as the first of your 3 minions)
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Jul 14, 2022 17:13
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I'm ok with stupid designs, but why six mana?
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Jul 14, 2022 17:18
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I assume that it doesn't count itself, otherwise yeah that's insane
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Jul 14, 2022 18:58
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Bremen posted:You would think that after it turned out to be a horrible idea every single previous time they did it, they would learn to stop printing cards like that. Bu... bu... but THIS TIME, IT WILL BE DIFFRENT! YOU'LL SEE! Narrator: It wasn't different.
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Jul 14, 2022 19:12
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I think I can understand their reasoning? One of their main goals this year has been making the board matter again, and outside of specific combo decks this kind of just feels like a way to build a big board fast in the late game. Part of why the original Kael'thas was so good is because all the 0-mana spells in Hearthstone are... actually good. You could go Kael'thas - Bogbeam - Bogbeam - Survival of the Fittest and doing something really useful while getting a game-winning effect down early. If you want to ramp something out with this Kael'thas on turn 6, you're playing cards like Desk Imp. You can't really ramp with this card while doing something useful until 7-10 mana, and at that point you could generally play that big minion normally. And since you can't ramp with this card unless you're really investing in it because 0-mana minions are generally too bad to use outside the combo, what big thing are you using this to play? Existing finishers like the Demon Hunter card that replays all your Fel spells don't really care about your board. You could go Kael'thas - Pirate - Pirate - Mr Smite, but Smite only costs one mana more than Kael'thas in the first place. You probably don't need to go through the extra effort for lethal. In other words, I only see two uses for Kael'thas: Either doing the Kael'thas - Brann - (useful one-cost minion if Kael doesn't count himself) - Big Battlecry minion combo that started this discussion (acknowledging that a lot of the time doubling that battlecry will probably be overkill and not worth fitting the necessary cards into your deck with the existing big battlecry minions), or building a really big board and daring your opponent to clear enough of it to survive. Which is still really powerful, don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's as format-warping as the original Kael'thas was. (Of course, all of this only applies to Standard. Wild, I weep for what wild poo poo this card will unleash upon you in its current form.)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWYBdzduIiY
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Of course it'll be "starting with itself" for the first few months, they want people pre-ordering and buying packs. The game being broken is a profit motive until the sales figures start dropping off.
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