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ItohRespectArmy posted:my rookie of the year is hiroshi tanahashi Mine is Okada. The Rainmaker gimmick seems to have promise, and even though he's only been on one Dynamite and one PPV, he went straight into the main event. When the head booker sees that much promise in you, we have to take notice.
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I looked it up and Takeshita already finished 2nd place in ROY voting in 2013, narrowly losing to YOH:quote:ROOKIE OF THE YEAR We were 5 votes away from campaigning for him to win it twice 
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Jul 14, 2022 15:00
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One of the few old guys I'm pretty confident is writing his own dogshit tweets.
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Jul 14, 2022 15:01
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Benne posted:I looked it up and Takeshita already finished 2nd place in ROY voting in 2013, narrowly losing to YOH: Enzo Amore topping Charlotte is horrifying. Also lol that YOH won it five places ahead of SHO going to show that rookie years may not indicate future talent even amongst contemporaries in the same ecosystem.
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Fsmhunk posted:One of the few old guys I'm pretty confident is writing his own dogshit tweets. Also at this point we could easily make the argument that Jericho is a bigger legend than Flair. Flair back in his day was insane, but then he stuck around for a few decades too long and it got super sad, and then he stuck around for a few decades more and now he's just mostly a reviled sex pest.
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Eh, prior to him being outed as an absolute shitbag and it turning out his act was one note as gently caress after the first year or so, I’d rather have heard Enzo talk than watched Charlotte wrestle.
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Bad take is the quoted tweet https://twitter.com/730Logan/status/1547429222897025029
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Jul 14, 2022 15:31
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Tony Khan is too small to hug Keith Lee it would look more like he was desperately clinging to some kind of massive boulder
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Shard posted:Bad take is the quoted tweet i went and checked and i think this was a joke that landed badly because of Poe's Law https://twitter.com/SavageEtika/status/1541650064317218816
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Jul 14, 2022 15:39
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Lid posted:Enzo Amore topping Charlotte is horrifying.
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Jul 14, 2022 15:46
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I mean the Observer rookie of the year award has flaws but it has a much better track record than the best new artist grammy
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I mean the Observer rookie of the year award has flaws but it has a much better track record than the best new artist grammy True but that's because given Grammy's definition of new artist Takeshita would be a rookie. When Bon Iver won it in 2012 five years after For Emma, Forever Ago or when they nominated Kendrick in 2014 after a decade in the business.
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Lid posted:i went and checked and i think this was a joke that landed badly because of Poe's Law Sarcasm is always a double edged sword.
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I love people freaking out that Tony is so happy his guys had a great match. Meanwhile Vince is looking down someone's blouse and mentally calculating how much this one costs.
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Edge & Christian posted:Rookie of the Year stuff is always weird in hindsight but both Enzo and Charlotte had a minimal number of "televised" wrestling matches by the end of 2013 (8 for Enzo, 5 for Charlotte) and neither had wrestled outside of Florida. NXT was not on the WWE Network yet because the WWE Network did not exist until 2014, though I think it was streaming on WWE.com? Outside of people living in Florida/working in WWE, you'd probably be basing those votes on "Charlotte is Ric Flair's daughter" and "Enzo cut a funny promo that was on YouTube" NXT was on Hulu at the time and definitely had its dedicated viewers
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Edge & Christian posted:Rookie of the Year stuff is always weird in hindsight but both Enzo and Charlotte had a minimal number of "televised" wrestling matches by the end of 2013 (8 for Enzo, 5 for Charlotte) and neither had wrestled outside of Florida. NXT was not on the WWE Network yet because the WWE Network did not exist until 2014, though I think it was streaming on WWE.com? Outside of people living in Florida/working in WWE, you'd probably be basing those votes on "Charlotte is Ric Flair's daughter" and "Enzo cut a funny promo that was on YouTube" It wasn't live, but NXT was airing on Hulu in the US starting 2012 (as I recall, it would go up at the same time every week so you could livewatch new episodes with your internet pals if you wanted), while being on broadcast or cable abroad, so it was certainly available to the kinds of people voting on rookie of the year. That said, picking a minor leaguer for rookie of the year is still strange!
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Benne posted:NXT was on Hulu at the time and definitely had its dedicated viewers Based on the rules of the awards "Rookie of the Year is open to only pro wrestlers making a major promotion professional debut" which can do a lot of work in both good and bad faith, but definitely includes NXT and more prominent indies. NXT wrestlers who got more first place votes than Enzo in subsequent years: Alexa Bliss (55 in 2014) Chad Gable (539 in 2015, winner) Dana Brooke (51 in 2015) From 2017 on it's a Category B award so everyone only votes for one person, plus NXT turned into Indie Star central for a long time, so the only high ranking NXT ROTYs of recent vintage are Bianca Belair (112 votes, third behind Kitamura and Microman) and Pat McAffee (won in 2020). Nick Wayne placed fourth last year, who knows if he'll get votes again this year. The whole thing is pretty loosey-goosey, Marko Stunt placed in both 2018 and 2019, Matt Riddle won in 2016 after placing in 2015, etc. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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Even with ROY being a weird and vague caterogy, there is zero legitimate argument for Takeshita, who has over 900 career matches, has been wrestling in major-league promotions for 10 years, and headlined Sumo Hall multiple times. It's not some podunk indie guy finally getting his TV break. This whole thing is just Cheese Board Guy being dumb as usual and then doubling down. Benne fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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Oh the Takeshita suggestion is absolutely dumb as poo poo, I was more commenting on Enzo getting votes nine years ago/"minor league" wrestlers getting nominations/the general weirdness of the category.
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A Fancy Hat posted:It's still wild to me that he gets the fast nationals leaked to him by WWE. He's an absolute nobody in the grand scheme of things, you'd think they'd at least use Ryan Satin or something to send those things out. They used Zarian until he got pushback (and presumably, pushed back).
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Jul 14, 2022 18:46
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This is a real question, if someone plays in the KBO for like 4 seasons, then goes to the MLB aren't they a rookie for their first season there?
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yeah but its the mlb rookie of the year, not baseball rookie of the year
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Malcolm Excellent posted:This is a real question, if someone plays in the KBO for like 4 seasons, then goes to the MLB aren't they a rookie for their first season there? Ichiro Suzuki won the 2001 ROY, made his rookie season in Japan was 1992 and had almost 1300 hits in 950 games before he came over.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Tony Khan is too small to hug Keith Lee it would look more like he was desperately clinging to some kind of massive boulder Chiaotzu Vs Nappa
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I gotta say, "Lee/Swerve winning the titles actually proves that Tony is even more racist" is not a take I expected. The idiots on Twitter are still able to impress me.
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PotatoJudge posted:Ichiro Suzuki won the 2001 ROY, made his rookie season in Japan was 1992 and had almost 1300 hits in 950 games before he came over. The guys who win the MLB are also called the "World Champions of Baseball" despite it being a national league so I wouldn't take anything they say too seriously.
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Lid posted:https://twitter.com/JobberNationTV/status/1547401191381942274?t=ruSBa7ppCMkwibhxPQxOzQ&s=19 You just know that if Team Taz had won, Jobber would be claiming Starks isn't really black.
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yea ok posted:yeah but its the mlb rookie of the year, not baseball rookie of the year Based on the answers I'm seeing is my Cinnibon King needs to be crowned AEW ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
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Selachian posted:You just know that if Team Taz had won, Jobber would be claiming Starks isn't really black. You don’t have to put extra racist words in the mouths of twitter morons, let them do that for themselves.
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Fish Of Doom posted:I gotta say, "Lee/Swerve winning the titles actually proves that Tony is even more racist" is not a take I expected. The idiots on Twitter are still able to impress me. It would be so much easier for them to just not talk about it. Hell they could just not talk about AEW at all since it's the worst thing that's ever happened to them.
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I do wonder what the Hell these folks talked about before 2019.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I do wonder what the Hell these folks talked about before 2019. All the same poo poo, just about New Japan.
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History Comes Inside! posted:You don’t have to put extra racist words in the mouths of twitter morons, let them do that for themselves. This is something those idiots have actually said before, to the point where Starks got pissed and commented on it.
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https://twitter.com/SeanCarlucci/status/1547687453237993472 https://twitter.com/SeanCarlucci/status/1537428360187547649 The Lucc
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Maxwell Lord posted:I do wonder what the Hell these folks talked about before 2019.
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Based on the answers I'm seeing is my Cinnibon King needs to be crowned AEW ROOKIE OF THE YEAR AEW Rookie of the year by any metric would be CM Punk.
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