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Since Jorp more or less brands himself as a self-help guru, has anybody ever actually found success through his teachings and come out as a more wholesome and fulfilled human being? It seems like setting the example to your followers that going through life means you need to be a thoroughly insufferable, absolute loving turbo-creep weirdo rear end in a top hat would just end up making people lonely and miserable.
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Yeah I always figured he just tried to make people angry. Just like Trump. No one voted for trump for what they thought he'd do for them, they voted for him for what they thought he'd do to people they hate.
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Jul 14, 2022 17:51
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I wish Jorp and smol Ben would just gently caress already, all this unfulfilled tension is making everyone miserable.
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Jul 14, 2022 18:14
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kntfkr posted:That video freaked me out cuz my rap name is Yung Men and I'm dropping an album called Malthuzian Catastrophe. I know how you feel. I release albums as Yung Jung. Fucker’s been making my life hard for years now.
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Jul 14, 2022 18:18
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Is this like some awful confused mashup of the Protestant work ethic, Catholic guilt and the prosperity gospel? Because it sure feels like it. Put your head down, focus on yourself but also be a leader because you're at the top of the hierarchy, but remember your heart is evil, and it's everyone else's fault if they are failures and therefore your duty to make sure they are not helped, but punished. Self help? More like self hell. Amirite
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Jul 14, 2022 18:20
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Y'all ever heard of this thing called "original sin?" No? Ok, so, first, women are to blame...
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Jul 14, 2022 18:27
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PITY BONER posted:Y'all ever heard of this thing called "original sin?" No? Ok, so, first, women are to blame... But don’t you dare put that Christian label on me! I don’t like labels, putting me in a box like that!
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Jul 14, 2022 18:48
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tek79 posted:Since Jorp more or less brands himself as a self-help guru, has anybody ever actually found success through his teachings and come out as a more wholesome and fulfilled human being? It seems like setting the example to your followers that going through life means you need to be a thoroughly insufferable, absolute loving turbo-creep weirdo rear end in a top hat would just end up making people lonely and miserable. Honestly about 3 or 4 years ago I got pretty into a few of his lectures surrounding ideas of self-determination, finding purpose, taking responsibility for the poo poo in your life, etc. He actually had some pretty compelling (if not unoriginal with different packaging) thoughts and I legitimately feel I was able to use them for at least a shred of self development. That's about the absolute limit of praise I'm willing to extend to him though given that I quickly discovered he had the worst opinions on earth about literally anything else. Now I just call him Benzo the clown.
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Jul 14, 2022 19:10
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Samovar posted:This is entirely minor, I'll grant you and maybe I'm getting worked up over a type of phrasing that I've not heard before, but... Why did he have that interjection there? It... Doesn't make sense. yeah as people have mentioned, it's basically just padding. he does this ALL THE loving TIME, and it's so loving ANNOYING. he also loves to use "so to speak" as well
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Jul 14, 2022 19:25
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Atlas Hugged posted:
lol at that pic benzo the clown
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Jul 14, 2022 19:29
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tak posted:benzo the clown
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tek79 posted:Since Jorp more or less brands himself as a self-help guru, has anybody ever actually found success through his teachings and come out as a more wholesome and fulfilled human being? This isn't really the right question to ask. Because as someone pointed out above, anything remotely useful he could teach you about responsibility or whatever you could literally learn from your parents or like Spiderman or something. Has anyone become a more wholesome person because of HIS specific teachings? Not a chance.
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Jul 14, 2022 20:28
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Grimdude posted:This isn't really the right question to ask. Because as someone pointed out above, anything remotely useful he could teach you about responsibility or whatever you could literally learn from your parents or like Spiderman or something. If you strip out generic platitudes you can get from Spiderman what's left of his specific teachings? The feminine dragon of chaos isn't gonna teach anyone poo poo while the rest is gussied up right wing bigotry and talking points.
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Jul 14, 2022 20:32
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kntfkr posted:The comments section is all praise.
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Jul 14, 2022 20:33
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Dr Peterson studied his entire life to be able to share his knowledge to the world in the past 3 years. I personally am incredibly thankful. Thank you Jordan Peterson!
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Jul 14, 2022 20:35
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Why does he squint all the time now?
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Jul 14, 2022 20:38
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The B stands for Benzo.
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The Fattest PI posted:Why does he squint all the time now? Brain damage
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Jul 14, 2022 20:42
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The Fattest PI posted:Why does he squint all the time now? I think he's reading off a screen which is an ipad that his daughter is holding up.
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The Fattest PI posted:Why does he squint all the time now? 
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tek79 posted:Since Jorp more or less brands himself as a self-help guru, has anybody ever actually found success through his teachings and come out as a more wholesome and fulfilled human being? It seems like setting the example to your followers that going through life means you need to be a thoroughly insufferable, absolute loving turbo-creep weirdo rear end in a top hat would just end up making people lonely and miserable. If you buy what he's selling, at best you come out affirming your already lovely attitudes towards women and muslims and upholding the patriarchy like a good boy. Jorp is just one of the entry level players, like Fresh&Fit or Gary Vaynerchuk, or at least he used to be. It seems he's stepping up his game. If you're really suckered in then you hop on for more of the whistle-stop tour of radicalizing misogynist neo-nazis. I don't really know who the next level players are currently, other than the obvious big ones like Shapiro and Crowder. I know Sargon of Akkad is still around, left over from gamergate/skeptic scene, and that the radicalization tour generally stops at the chan boards before getting blackpill content and invites to the more hard core fash groups. But yeah, being lonely and miserable is how they hook you, and keeping you lonely and miserable is how they ensure you will keep coming back for "help." A lot like how dating apps work. kntfkr posted:The comments section is all praise. "I love you Professor Peterson. You make me cry tears of meaning." 
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Jul 14, 2022 21:45
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I need Tim Heidecker to do a Jorp parody. His Joe Rogan one was great, as was his full set as a hack stand up comedian.
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Jul 14, 2022 21:56
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If you just read the headlines, 12 Rules is pretty reasonable self-help stuff; take care of yourself, be honest, respect others, enjoy the smaller things in life. It's just that the text beneath the headlines is a mess of jargon and random bible verses and anecdotes which vaguely tell you to do the exact opposite of what the headline says. Like it's incredible how little he understands the advice he clearly found somewhere else and claimed as his own, and if anyone gets anything good out of anything he says, it is in spite of him, not thanks to him.
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Jul 14, 2022 22:16
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PITY BONER posted:Y'all ever heard of this thing called "original sin?" No? Ok, so, first, women are to blame...
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Jul 14, 2022 22:32
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I need Tim Heidecker to do a Jorp parody. His Joe Rogan one was great, as was his full set as a hack stand up comedian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJyg0Y8xLOg
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Jul 14, 2022 22:38
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pro click
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Tim's stand up special as a hack comedian is definitely based on Jim Breuer, the Goat Boy. https://twitter.com/murderxbryan/status/1547261334773010432?s=21&t=JY2O5QYvZszl0ntW38AABw
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BigglesSWE posted:But don’t you dare put that Christian label on me! I don’t like labels, putting me in a box like that! It's impossible for me to know what someone means when they say gowd, and neither do they.
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kntfkr posted:That video freaked me out cuz my rap name is Yung Men and I'm dropping an album called Malthuzian Catastrophe. bird food bathtub posted:If you strip out generic platitudes you can get from Spiderman what's left of his specific teachings? The feminine dragon of chaos isn't gonna teach anyone poo poo while the rest is gussied up right wing bigotry and talking points. 
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Jul 14, 2022 23:08
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I got your cloaca right here!
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Atlas Hugged posted:
i am surprised he didnt call them savages who need to submit to jesus Samovar posted:No, he's trying to convert them all to Christianity, but just in a deniable way. yeah basically. he is one of those types who says "well THEY are a RELIGION, but I have RELATIONSHIP with JESUS".
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WaryWarren posted:Tim's stand up special as a hack comedian is definitely based on Jim Breuer, the Goat Boy. Wow. He's terrible.
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He'll snit at some eyerolling ayatollah and get fatwa'd
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WaryWarren posted:Tim's stand up special as a hack comedian is definitely based on Jim Breuer, the Goat Boy. I can't believe I actually thought this guy was a stoner in Half-Baked. In retrospect it's obvious he's never smoked weed in his life. Nobody's ever offered him any.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Wow. He's terrible. oh i'm sorry, SNOWFLAKE. did that hit a little too close to home, huh?? then you better get your pumpkin spice latte to go, cause even your precious little safe space isn't gonna save you from these TRUTH BOMBS: https://twitter.com/thebhart/status/1547276308962574336 Grimdude posted:This isn't really the right question to ask. Because as someone pointed out above, anything remotely useful he could teach you about responsibility or whatever you could literally learn from your parents or like Spiderman or something. bird food bathtub posted:If you strip out generic platitudes you can get from Spiderman what's left of his specific teachings? The feminine dragon of chaos isn't gonna teach anyone poo poo while the rest is gussied up right wing bigotry and talking points. Canadian Fonzie posted:If you buy what he's selling, at best you come out affirming your already lovely attitudes towards women and muslims and upholding the patriarchy like a good boy. Jorp is just one of the entry level players, like Fresh&Fit or Gary Vaynerchuk, or at least he used to be. It seems he's stepping up his game. Yeah, basically this. all the remotely possibly useful things he's advocated for has been done so by way better people than him, and there's virtually no one i've seen who's a fan of jorp that stops at the clean your room/pet a cat stuff. he is absolutely a gateway to horrible things. which is why i always laugh whenever jorp tried to claim that he had a DE-radicalizing effect on people. like, how the gently caress does that work? "hey, i was a 4chan posting pepe avatar that thought women were hypergamous whores and trans people were degenerate scum, both of whom i feel were destroying western civilization. but then i started listening to jordan peterson and then..." ? thunderspanks posted:Now I just call him Benzo the clown. Rupert Buttermilk posted:The B stands for Benzo. i'm sure i've heard both of these before but they never stop being funny
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Mr Interweb posted:oh i'm sorry, SNOWFLAKE. did that hit a little too close to home, huh?? I think Heidecker's special is based around more of a Nick Dipaolo; I mean look at this thumbnail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aIdNexGjw0&t=1270s same comedy though (press play if u dare)
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Ok, this is weird, because I've heard it before. That "back up and finish the job" thing sounds way too familiar.
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thunderspanks posted:Honestly about 3 or 4 years ago I got pretty into a few of his lectures surrounding ideas of self-determination, finding purpose, taking responsibility for the poo poo in your life, etc. Focussing on things you can control and taking responsibility (and letting go of the things you can't control) are extremely helpful pieces of advice that improved my life when I was young, but I didn't learn that from Peterson as this was nearly two decades ago. So yeah its all pretty generic advice repackaged as a lobster-daddy original. I don't even remember where I heard that advice from to be honest.
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Aren't a lot of his 'ideas' on self-help just Cognitive Behavioural Therapy repackaged in flowery language to appeal to young men? I thought I remembered some poor goon who read through one of his books saying as much.
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Anyone have anymore of the "we'll see who cancels who, woke moralists" memes?
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